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      01-24-2008, 09:38 PM   #67
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They are all too much anyway, if it was a civic it would cost $300 at MOST. So far no on has released anything that is better quality then what would be in a civic anyway.

If I was going to buy any of them, which I wouldn't it would be the stett one though from what I've seen so far.
Like I said earlier, who actually likes over paying because of the brand of our car? I don't, you don't either. No one does. But all of a sudden its Stett's fault now? Come on. If you want to start making products for are car that are superior in design and dirt cheap (good luck) then you will surely have a line out the door to buy from you. It's the ideal business owners pipe dream, make a superior product and sell it for cheap while still making a huge profit. It's just that, a pipe dream.

What have you seen from this intake that makes it worse than anything out now? You obviously feel its better than VIP's design.

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DID I MISS SOMETHING? .... i do not see the air filter anywhere in the pics.
is the fliter a k&n?? and where is it placed, down below the driver side lights??

my main question is do we have to remove the bumper to clean the air filter?

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Please read the post. It's K&N. Its above the fog light. Yes, below the drivers side lights. No, you just turn the wheel and remove the fender lining to get to the filter.
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Like I said earlier, who actually likes over paying because of the brand of our car? I don't, you don't either. No one does. But all of a sudden its Stett's fault now? Come on. If you want to start making products for are car that are superior in design and dirt cheap (good luck) then you will surely have a line out the door to buy from you. It's the ideal business owners pipe dream, make a superior product and sell it for cheap while still making a huge profit. It's just that, a pipe dream.

What have you seen from this intake that makes it worse than anything out now? You obviously feel its better than VIP's design.
I said I thought it was the best out there so far so I'm not sure why you are on my case about it. As for it costing $600+ how is that not stetts fault? They could CHOOSE to sell it for 300, but they didn't.


You're right I don't like overpaying for things like this, which is why I don't purchase them. It's to bad other BMW owners do otherwise we wouldn't have the problem.
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They are all too much anyway, if it was a civic it would cost $300 at MOST. So far no on has released anything that is better quality then what would be in a civic anyway.

If I was going to buy any of them, which I wouldn't it would be the stett one though from what I've seen so far.
I agree 100% with you in stating that all of the current CAI systems for the N54 are overpriced. However, the tuners will only charge what the market is willing to pay. If we don't purchase these items the prices will fall .

I would choose this one as well if it were a bit more reasonable. Especially when comparing it to the others on the market. I've personally seen one CAI available now from a rival tuner...bubble gum welds etc. Looks like I'll have to get a local fabricator to fab a CAI for me as well.
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Looks like I'll have to get a local fabricator to fab a CAI for me as well.
That's something I forgot to mention, you could EASILY get a local guy to make you one for $600.
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too much heat for nothing. Is their price bad? I dont think so. Maybe it is high for somebody, but what the hell? Look at the piggy/flash market. Prices vary from 300+ to 2000$ if I dont consider the crazy japanese stuff and surprisingly all of them has their market. Now U can easily spare money on CAI - buy some cheaper one like VIP (I guess 400?) or even make one DYI, or get this one, or wait a few weeks till Burger, Vishnu, helix etc. will come out with their ones, compare the gains/design/price/color/whatever and take one. Or spare even more money and leave it stock...
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too much heat for nothing. Is their price bad? I dont think so. Maybe it is high for somebody, but what the hell? Look at the piggy/flash market. Prices vary from 300+ to 2000$ if I dont consider the crazy japanese stuff and surprisingly all of them has their market. Now U can easily spare money on CAI - buy some cheaper one like VIP (I guess 400?) or even make one DYI, or get this one, or wait a few weeks till Burger, Vishnu, helix etc. will come out with their ones, compare the gains/design/price/color/whatever and take one. Or spare even more money and leave it stock...
Lol at comparing piggybacks to a CAI.
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Some of us....like myself, are too impatient to wait for these systems. The car has been out for well over a year! How long does it take for someone like Conforti, AA, or Vishnu to make a piece? I'm not sure and I'm not waiting to find out. I'm just speaking for myself on this, but my time is too valuable to be wasted trying to build an intake for my car to save a few bucks.



Stage 2 MSDS is around $600 and the Logic intake will be in that range as well



Agreed.....u gonna build it?
I wish I could..lets be honest..how much do these things really cost to make.. theres no reason why a cai should be more than about $300. And even then theres a huge markup
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Lol at comparing piggybacks to a CAI.
And what should I compare it to for U to understand? Mobile phones? C'mon
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I wish I could..lets be honest..how much do these things really cost to make.. theres no reason why a cai should be more than about $300. And even then theres a huge markup
Touche, but like I said, I'm impatient.
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And what should I compare it to for U to understand? Mobile phones? C'mon
I don't know, you compared something worth at most 20hp and 600 dollars to something 300-1400 worth 50-100+ hp.

Hence the lols.
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I don't think HP increases dictate the price but rather the labor involved in R&D and what the market is willing to pay. Unfortunately, I feel that alot of people are willing to spend upwards of thousands of dollars just to build a "mod list" and hey, if people will pay, they will charge.

A CAI doesn't cost much in materials to make, but it takes time and labor to R&D and then sell in relatively small quantities.
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$675 for a 2.5% power increase?



His car is bone stock mechanically, he should see more gains once he gets his ecu tune. My car has V2 with the stock airbox and it feels like its starving for air above 5000rpm. Hopefully this intake will remedy that. I'm looking for a 5-8% increase. Its worth the price to me to not feel starved at higher rpm's Plus there are other things to consider besides hp...like sound and throttle response.
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I don't know, you compared something worth at most 20hp and 600 dollars to something 300-1400 worth 50-100+ hp.

Hence the lols.
It was just an example, but another question: is this the first car U ever tuned? If not, U should already know, that the higher in HP U go, the higher price/HP U get.

The CAI is not necessary for early stages (as well as IC), now with V2 (or others) it becomes a necessity if U wanna go higher and use the full potential of the tune. Also if U put it on a stock car, it gains 10HP, not the best business for that money, especially if there are other much more beneficial options like a piggy. But with higher boost and around 340-360whp it looks different - 20-30hp for the same money with almost no other options.

What do U say about DPs? More money, maybe a lilbit more gain, but than again not on the stock car (I highly doubt that 40HP of Riss on stock car, just imo). Do U think 700-900+ (or 1600) is too much for it? Well, I agree, it is. But if U want/need it...

If I try to look at the future I can only pray it will end up with CAI+IC+DP combo for 400-420whp, whatever the price is, and no spare transmission for example.
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It was just an example, but another question: is this the first car U ever tuned? If not, U should already know, that the higher in HP U go, the higher price/HP U get.

The CAI is not necessary for early stages (as well as IC), now with V2 (or others) it becomes a necessity if U wanna go higher and use the full potential of the tune. Also if U put it on a stock car, it gains 10HP, not the best business for that money, especially if there are other much more beneficial options like a piggy. But with higher boost and around 340-360whp it looks different - 20-30hp for the same money with almost no other options.

What do U say about DPs? More money, maybe a lilbit more gain, but than again not on the stock car (I highly doubt that 40HP of Riss on stock car, just imo). Do U think 700-900+ (or 1600) is too much for it? Well, I agree, it is. But if U want/need it...

If I try to look at the future I can only pray it will end up with CAI+IC+DP combo for 400-420whp, whatever the price is, and no spare transmission for example.
You should read more before you post. More critically.
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You should read more before you post. More critically.
I just love when s/o plays I-spy with me.

What do U mean?
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Shouldn't you and I be opposite sides? This feels weird.




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$675 for a 2.5% power increase?



Did you even read the thread? The before dyno was done with the BMC filter installed which people are seeing 8-10 rwhp/tq increases. So the gains are closer to 15-20 rwhp/tq on a BONE STOCK car. If you add a tune your looking at 20-30rwhp/tq. Please read before you make posts like that. Geez.

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Relax man, we don't all live on this forum. I believe it was done with the hood shut but I wasn't there so I'll have to ask if I get a chance.

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where are the shots of your intake?
Weather was crappy yesterday and even worse today (see: ice storm). I'll take some shots when I get the chance. Cut me some slack, its my birthday today.


And on a serious note, lets keep this thread on-topic. This is not a debate on whether or not CAI's are worth the money that is charged for them. This is a review. Keep your responses directed in line with that.
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Did you even read the thread? The before dyno was done with the BMC filter installed which people are seeing 8-10 rwhp/tq increases. So the gains are closer to 15-20 rwhp/tq on a BONE STOCK car. If you add a tune your looking at 20-30rwhp/tq. Please read before you make posts like that. Geez.
8-10whp with a bmc filter? More like 3 or 4 WITH a tune..even less on a stock car
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