Vessel Centaurus Leader: ETA Port Hueneme Feb 23

spn · 03-04-2008, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by djlfp

Because of the delay I am guessing that CL is already through the locks and that Southampton Express and Chiriqui III are approaching now.

There is a 30 minute to one hour delay, so you are probably correct. I am not at my computer with AIS at the moment (I am in the kitchen and it is on my home office on the other side of the house), so I can't see what you are seeing. CL is probably in the Pacific anchorage and getting ready to head north.

spn · 03-04-2008, 05:39 PM

Or maybe she will head west to Japan. I don't know where CL is going.

djlfp · 03-04-2008, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by spn

Yeah, I know. AIS has been down a lot all day. LOTS of red arrows, which means their radar signal is lost. If it is red for 30 minutes, they remove the arrow completely, so the ship becomes a ghost ship.

Thanks for the info. I was just guessing they went red if they had stopped for a really long time and yellow if they had stopped for just awhile. Do you know what the green and yellow really mean?

djlfp · 03-04-2008, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by spn

Or maybe she will head west to Japan. I don't know where CL is going.

If I were sane, I would respond that I don't know and I don't care, because my car is no longer in its hold. In reality I am curious, but probably not sufficiently curious to call them up again.

spn · 03-04-2008, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by djlfp

Thanks for the info. I was just guessing they went red if they had stopped for a really long time and yellow if they had stopped for just awhile. Do you know what the green and yellow really mean?

Here are the arrow codes:

What do the color coded triangles mean?
Green - Vessel sailing at 0.5 knots or faster
Yellow - Vessel stopped or sailing at less than 0.5 Knots
Red - Ship sailed beyond our coverage area or (rarely) have switched off their AIS temporarily. The signal was lost between 15 and 30 minutes ago and will be removed from the chart after 30 minutes.

spn · 03-04-2008, 06:02 PM

I am not at my AIS computer, but if someone with AIS can read this ship's name on the web camera right now, then look on the AIS map, then you know the amount of delay on AIS.

djlfp · 03-04-2008, 06:04 PM

I must be missing something, but it seems that they could move ships through the locks faster if they sent them through in one direction and then without emptying the locks they sent one through in the other direction. It must not take them much time to fill or empty the locks or it is too hard to move departing ships out of the way of arriving ships. I wonder if they do any coordinating of water transfer in the side-by-side locks. Large pipes between the two could really equalize water levels pretty quickly - only then would they need to turn on the pumps.

djlfp · 03-04-2008, 06:06 PM

There is too much glare on the low res camera and the ship has not come close enough to the hi-res camera.

djlfp · 03-04-2008, 06:09 PM

I think I was looking at the southern locks. The ship could well be the Ever Diamond and if so the ais is pretty darn current. Kassel will probably be next after Cougar Ace.

spn · 03-04-2008, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by djlfp

I must be missing something, but it seems that they could move ships through the locks faster if they sent them through in one direction and then without emptying the locks they sent one through in the other direction. It must not take them much time to fill or empty the locks or it is too hard to move departing ships out of the way of arriving ships. I wonder if they do any coordinating of water transfer in the side-by-side locks. Large pipes between the two could really equalize water levels pretty quickly - only then would they need to turn on the pumps.

I think it would be too difficult to maneuver these huge supervessels into and out of the locks and replace them with another ship. I only ever see ships going in this direction, from the Atlantic side to the Pacific side, at this time of day. So, all the Atlantic ships must go westbound through the Gatun Locks in the morning and all the Pacific ships go eastbound through the Mira Flores Locks in the morning. Then visa versa. I have never seen two ships going in opposite directions in the locks at the same time. (there are two lanes at each set of locks)

spn · 03-04-2008, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by djlfp

I think I was looking at the southern locks. The ship could well be the Ever Diamond and if so the ais is pretty darn current. Kassel will probably be next after Cougar Ace.

OK, I ran to my other computer and googled Evergreen Ever Diamond and that is her.

djlfp · 03-04-2008, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by spn

I think it would be too difficult to maneuver these huge supervessels into and out of the locks and replace them with another ship. I only ever see ships going in this direction, from the Atlantic side to the Pacific side, at this time of day. So, all the Atlantic ships must go westbound through the Gatun Locks in the morning and all the Pacific ships go eastbound through the Mira Flores Locks in the morning. Then visa versa. I have never seen two ships going in opposite directions in the locks at the same time. (there are two lanes at each set of locks)

Right: Gatun Locks southbound from Atlantic in morning and northbound in evening. Miraflores vice versa.

spn · 03-04-2008, 06:15 PM

Although, that AIS shot could be when they went through the first step down lock, which is in the far distance from the current camera view we are seeing now. In reality, the camera view for Ever Diamond could be in the location of CL that you see on the AIS now. Do you know what I mean??

spn · 03-04-2008, 06:18 PM

It is confusing, but this camera view we are seeing now is the second step down of locks. In the far distance is the first step down. And, you can see those two corresponding steps on the AIS map.

spn · 03-04-2008, 06:19 PM

Yes, I can read Ever Diamond on the hi-res camera.

spn · 03-04-2008, 06:21 PM

It is so much harder to see these ships at night. I hope they put her in the near lock so we can see her better. If it were daytime, we could see which lock she is headed for.

djlfp · 03-04-2008, 06:29 PM

OK. K may already be through the northern set of locks and ais is not really close to being live. Thanks.

spn · 03-04-2008, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by djlfp

OK. K may already be through the northern set of locks and ais is not really close to being live. Thanks.

Exactly.

djlfp · 03-04-2008, 06:32 PM

CMA CGM White Shark is now in the western locks. Thanks for your tutelage. I will check in on election retns now and be back soon.

spn · 03-04-2008, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by djlfp

CMA CGM White Shark is now in the western locks.

Isn't that hi-res camera cool? You can see the water stirring in the lock. Last week, there was a big party on the roof (in the foreground--it is blacked out now and you can't see it), but it was funny to watch this big party with decorated tables and people all dressed up. And all these huge ships were just passing by. . like no big deal.

spn · 03-04-2008, 06:38 PM

It looks like the tug is steering a ship into the near lock. I think it is her.

djlfp · 03-04-2008, 07:01 PM

Back for the moment. Could this be K coming in now. I assume K is not through yet, based on how far ahead Chiriqui and White Shark were/are on ais.

03-04-2008, 05:39 PM	#68
spn Lieutenant Colonel 24 Rep 1,711 Posts Drives: '09 MB SL63 AMG Join Date: May 2007 Location: US iTrader: (0)	Or maybe she will head west to Japan. I don't know where CL is going.
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03-04-2008, 06:02 PM	#72
spn Lieutenant Colonel 24 Rep 1,711 Posts Drives: '09 MB SL63 AMG Join Date: May 2007 Location: US iTrader: (0)	I am not at my AIS computer, but if someone with AIS can read this ship's name on the web camera right now, then look on the AIS map, then you know the amount of delay on AIS.
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03-04-2008, 06:04 PM	#73
djlfp Private 0 Rep 53 Posts Drives: '06 750Li Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: On the ground at Pt Hueneme waiting to clear Customs/Ag iTrader: (0)	I must be missing something, but it seems that they could move ships through the locks faster if they sent them through in one direction and then without emptying the locks they sent one through in the other direction. It must not take them much time to fill or empty the locks or it is too hard to move departing ships out of the way of arriving ships. I wonder if they do any coordinating of water transfer in the side-by-side locks. Large pipes between the two could really equalize water levels pretty quickly - only then would they need to turn on the pumps.
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03-04-2008, 06:06 PM	#74
djlfp Private 0 Rep 53 Posts Drives: '06 750Li Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: On the ground at Pt Hueneme waiting to clear Customs/Ag iTrader: (0)	There is too much glare on the low res camera and the ship has not come close enough to the hi-res camera.
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03-04-2008, 06:09 PM	#75
djlfp Private 0 Rep 53 Posts Drives: '06 750Li Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: On the ground at Pt Hueneme waiting to clear Customs/Ag iTrader: (0)	I think I was looking at the southern locks. The ship could well be the Ever Diamond and if so the ais is pretty darn current. Kassel will probably be next after Cougar Ace.
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03-04-2008, 06:15 PM	#79
spn Lieutenant Colonel 24 Rep 1,711 Posts Drives: '09 MB SL63 AMG Join Date: May 2007 Location: US iTrader: (0)	Although, that AIS shot could be when they went through the first step down lock, which is in the far distance from the current camera view we are seeing now. In reality, the camera view for Ever Diamond could be in the location of CL that you see on the AIS now. Do you know what I mean??
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03-04-2008, 06:18 PM	#80
spn Lieutenant Colonel 24 Rep 1,711 Posts Drives: '09 MB SL63 AMG Join Date: May 2007 Location: US iTrader: (0)	It is confusing, but this camera view we are seeing now is the second step down of locks. In the far distance is the first step down. And, you can see those two corresponding steps on the AIS map.
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03-04-2008, 06:19 PM	#81
spn Lieutenant Colonel 24 Rep 1,711 Posts Drives: '09 MB SL63 AMG Join Date: May 2007 Location: US iTrader: (0)	Yes, I can read Ever Diamond on the hi-res camera.
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03-04-2008, 06:21 PM	#82
spn Lieutenant Colonel 24 Rep 1,711 Posts Drives: '09 MB SL63 AMG Join Date: May 2007 Location: US iTrader: (0)	It is so much harder to see these ships at night. I hope they put her in the near lock so we can see her better. If it were daytime, we could see which lock she is headed for.
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03-04-2008, 06:29 PM	#83
djlfp Private 0 Rep 53 Posts Drives: '06 750Li Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: On the ground at Pt Hueneme waiting to clear Customs/Ag iTrader: (0)	OK. K may already be through the northern set of locks and ais is not really close to being live. Thanks.
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djlfp Private 0 Rep 53 Posts Drives: '06 750Li Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: On the ground at Pt Hueneme waiting to clear Customs/Ag iTrader: (0)	CMA CGM White Shark is now in the western locks. Thanks for your tutelage. I will check in on election retns now and be back soon.
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03-04-2008, 06:38 PM	#87
spn Lieutenant Colonel 24 Rep 1,711 Posts Drives: '09 MB SL63 AMG Join Date: May 2007 Location: US iTrader: (0)	It looks like the tug is steering a ship into the near lock. I think it is her.
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03-04-2008, 07:01 PM	#88
djlfp Private 0 Rep 53 Posts Drives: '06 750Li Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: On the ground at Pt Hueneme waiting to clear Customs/Ag iTrader: (0)	Back for the moment. Could this be K coming in now. I assume K is not through yet, based on how far ahead Chiriqui and White Shark were/are on ais.
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