Report: BMW M4 GTS and updated 3.0 CSL Hommage are concepts headed to Pebble Beach

C5driver · 07-22-2015, 06:01 PM

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JustChris · 07-22-2015, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PrimeBMW

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

You don't like the CSL?
Its our template for the harder edge exclusive bookend of BMW M.

More focused performance cars but with the latest progressive innovation such as further lightweight materials ,technology and whisper it eDrive features including eBoost.

You will know a CSL because it will be radically different with special Aeropacket and performance equipment.

Its a revival of what CSL stood for in the past Motorsport with progressive innovation but today for a very progressive future.

Scott26,
I like everything you have said here: CSL, harder edge, bookend of BMW M, latest progressive innovation, lightweight materials, special aeropacket, and performance equipment. I don't mind the crazy design as I would like a car that stands out with its form and function......it will not be my DD. (Don't pay attention to those content with a typical DD M car) But please expand on whisper eDrive and eBoost. Are you hinting that some hybrid tech may be coming to a new M or CSL?

Electric based turbos are coming soon. Rumoured next Audi RS4 also so rolling out across the industry. Takes up initial mini boost with zero lag, think EV torque from 0 RPM. Then bigger boost trad turbo kicks in. Smart, can't wait!

aajami · 07-22-2015, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by aajami

Fix the grossly over-designed fender/hood folds and whatever is happening with the taillights and wing, and I'd like it plenty.

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

It all falls back on a design conversation much earlier...

Much better.

bradleyland · 07-22-2015, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by aajami

Much better.

Don't get too excited. That's the Vision GT Concept. It's cool, but it's not a car that's going to be produced. Word is that various styling aspects will make it in to the M2. The front aero is said to have been styled after the Vision GT concept.

http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=879338

FogCityM3 · 07-22-2015, 08:35 PM

I for one am heartened by the CSL-M concept. Yes it's a little ostentatious but cleaned up it would look completely different from everything out there. Obviously, the N/A days are gone but if you can offer the track/handling performance of a 911 or even better Cayman GT4 coupled with a cleaned up design, lightweight carbon structure, in a white color with the ///M racing stripes like the old bat mobile (CSL), it would be a winning combo and a true halo car. The current ///M lineup is looking too similar to them heir non-M brethren that you can barely tell them apart. Time for avant-garde styling and performance that will shock the automotive world!

AtlantaDude · 07-22-2015, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

You don't like the CSL?
Its our template for the harder edge exclusive bookend of BMW M.

More focused performance cars but with the latest progressive innovation such as further lightweight materials ,technology and whisper it eDrive features including eBoost.

You will know a CSL because it will be radically different with special Aeropacket and performance equipment.

Its a revival of what CSL stood for in the past Motorsport with progressive innovation but today for a very progressive future.

Gotta admit, I wish I could find this in a wallpaper size. This thing is awesome looking. My desk @ work is getting boring....

AtlantaDude · 07-22-2015, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

Thought this was a 1 of 1 with no real running gear just something stuffed in to allow moving it for shows.

No this thing drives and all. Has side exit exhaust. IIRC, it's a NA inline 6. BMW style of course. I'm not sure if it goes faster than 10kph/mph though. But it does in fact run and drive.

ORIGIN M. · 07-22-2015, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bradleyland

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Originally Posted by aajami

Much better.

Don't get too excited. That's the Vision GT Concept. It's cool, but it's not a car that's going to be produced. Word is that various styling aspects will make it in to the M2. The front aero is said to have been styled after the Vision GT concept.

http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=879338

He's posting this GT6/M2 CSL for a reason.

ORIGIN M. · 07-22-2015, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

yawn.... nothing to see here...

We'll see

shivaswrath · 07-22-2015, 10:13 PM

The water injection is coming that soon??!!

dreamspeed · 07-22-2015, 11:52 PM

The CSL Hommage looks like a horrible Fast and Furious reject.

N & M · 07-23-2015, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Hexenkind

A rehashed CSL Hommage? So nothing new... I’m disappointed.

Don't be. The fact they have chosen to refine the concept so close to original unveil means there is some interest to consider producing it.

Kjenndal · 07-23-2015, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by N & M

Don't be. The fact they have chosen to refine the concept so close to original unveil means there is some interest to consider producing it.

OK.

We will see.

punky8d · 07-23-2015, 02:31 AM

M4 GTS

3.0 CSL Hommage Concept somehow looked like Nemesis from Resident Evil..

Danyutz · 07-23-2015, 04:27 AM

Absolutely loved the CSL Hommage, an evolution of it? Bring it on!

macagain · 07-23-2015, 04:40 AM

The csl looks like it came from the Pixar team that did Cars!

M3 n X5M · 07-23-2015, 05:47 AM

I really like the CSL.

This would make for an interesting car.

The M4 will look just like the Moto GP safety car. And we will not get it in the U.S..., probably.

Seeing the M2 today or tomorrow does not change production availability. So we can wait...

Only the CSL makes us dream at a concept - and a working version, at that. I admire that design!

fuddman · 07-23-2015, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

It all falls back on a design conversation much earlier...

I'm guessing and FWIW, the design conversation centered around the picture on the left. The car on the right, posted earlier, looks somewhat like it.
The comments that went along with the picture were:
"But the sibling is the decision to bring more emotional response and make specific M cars more visceral in every achievable way possible.
M cars have that recognisable brand like Porsche which means they get full attention when something new appears on the horizon."

Have you ever seen this? Some elements relate to the M2 as you can see some ideas are still specifically on street cars but details will be very familiar.

N & M · 07-23-2015, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

You don't like the CSL?
Its our template for the harder edge exclusive bookend of BMW M.

More focused performance cars but with the latest progressive innovation such as further lightweight materials ,technology and whisper it eDrive features including eBoost.

You will know a CSL because it will be radically different with special Aeropacket and performance equipment.

Its a revival of what CSL stood for in the past Motorsport with progressive innovation but today for a very progressive future.

Thanks for that; but whatever happened to BMW's 100 birthday gift to itself (and us)? Are we getting a super car based on the i8? A modern 2002? Or CSL reborn (and designed more elegantly)?

Go on, you know you want to tell us...

MalibuBimmer · 07-23-2015, 10:59 PM

I've heard it's an M4 and a modified CSL supercar. Which pretty much goes with what is being predicted. And the modded CSL will be on sale next year for the 100th anniversary.

N & M · 07-24-2015, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MalibuBimmer

I've heard it's an M4 and a modified CSL supercar. Which pretty much goes with what is being predicted. And the modded CSL will be on sale next year for the 100th anniversary.

That sounds about right, but haveing spent the last few days driving the i8, I a cannot help but feel the disappointment that it is an amazing package that cries out for more.

such a an amazing chassis and style deserves to more forward to the next level.

I know a modern CSL will be amazing in concept and execution but that really should be production series halo car for the "M bookend".

For a 100th birthday, I would treat the world to something truly special.

MCarsFan · 07-24-2015, 07:33 AM

CSL = shared frame with Toyota / Scion / Subaru ?
Tragic. In itself.

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