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      11-26-2015, 05:00 PM   #67
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If you're like me, you're sick of the drama and it is truly refreshing to not see PURE and HEXON adding to that drama.
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      11-26-2015, 06:04 PM   #68
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Having now installed the Pure n54 and n55 stage 2 turbo kits, I have to say I am hugely impressed! And Pure have been awesome to deal with!
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excuse my silly question what do you mean by +core what is core
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excuse my silly question what do you mean by +core what is core
The core charge, in this case $300 for LHD 335i's, $600 for other. Refunded if you send them your stock turbos.
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Hey thanks for the response.

To be honest I have very little experience with turbo'd systems. I've rebuilt lots of cars and engines, but all were NA and mostly carb'd.

If it's realistic, I'd like to have 500rwhp reliably on 91-93. I plan on having a FMIC and CP by then, and I already have DPs. I'll be getting inlets as well (if I go with a new hybrid turbo setup).

I can't run ethanol and don't want to do meth, so it 500rwhp on pump gas realistic with upgraded twins?

I was considering getting a JPWorks top mount with a smaller turbo. People seem to be confident that would make 500rwhp easily on pump gas, and do so very reliably. (It would also only cost ~4500).

if any of those things seem unrealistic let me know!
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Another update regarding reliability:

We checked in with one of our early test cars. He emailed back over the weekend and said:

"Good to hear from you. My turbo's are still going strong at 22,000 mi. and 14+ months!"

Thanks
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Another update regarding reliability:

We checked in with one of our early test cars. He emailed back over the weekend and said:

"Good to hear from you. My turbo's are still going strong at 22,000 mi. and 14+ months!"

Thanks
Awesome news!
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Pure Turbos are you releasing any Stage1 setups soon?
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Pure Turbos are you releasing any Stage1 setups soon?
We are actually, good timing. It's still not quite ready but we were told our custom spec components are nearly done. We have some tricks up our sleeve for this one. We think we can offer the best flowing Stg1 available. Looking forward to it! Thanks
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Pure Turbos are you releasing any Stage1 setups soon?
We are actually, good timing. It's still not quite ready but we were told our custom spec components are nearly done. We have some tricks up our sleeve for this one. We think we can offer the best flowing Stg1 available. Looking forward to it! Thanks
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We are actually, good timing. It's still not quite ready but we were told our custom spec components are nearly done. We have some tricks up our sleeve for this one. We think we can offer the best flowing Stg1 available. Looking forward to it! Thanks


Wow! That is great news! I have been getting some funds put together since I have a feeling that Vargas may not warranty the turbos I bought from them. Either way, I think I will be in the market again in 2-3months. Hopefully by that time, stage1 kits will be released. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
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We are actually, good timing. It's still not quite ready but we were told our custom spec components are nearly done. We have some tricks up our sleeve for this one. We think we can offer the best flowing Stg1 available. Looking forward to it! Thanks
Any update on this? When spring comes around, looking for new turbos! Need something that bridges between OEM and Current Stage 2 turbos on the market, Affordable as well.
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I have a mate here in Australia with a RHD Pure Stage 2 turbos, and after only 10,000km (6,000 miles)! You can already hear the wastegates rattling. Like we all know, this will only get worse as he clocks more mileage on the car and soon enough they'll have to be pulled off the car for a wastegate rebuild.

I am not saying that Pure are bad at what they do, but it seems that all aftermarket turbos start rattling a lot earlier than the stock factory turbos. I have friends with Hexons, RB turbos and they all rattle slatted very few thousand kilometres (miles).

But at least Pure turbos don't smoke like the other suppliers!

My question is, how come the stock turbos can last a lot more before they start rattling, compared to all the aftermarket turbos? Aren't they all just TD03 turbos with the same wastegate design anyway?

My stock turbos have only started rattling at 88,000 miles, and now I am looking for a replacement, but it looks like I'll be buying brand new OEM TD03 instead of any aftermarket offering! Just because I value reliability too much.

*I am only FBO btw
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I have a mate here in Australia with a RHD Pure Stage 2 turbos, and after only 10,000km (6,000 miles)! You can already hear the wastegates rattling. Like we all know, this will only get worse as he clocks more mileage on the car and soon enough they'll have to be pulled off the car for a wastegate rebuild.

I am not saying that Pure are bad at what they do, but it seems that all aftermarket turbos start rattling a lot earlier than the stock factory turbos. I have friends with Hexons, RB turbos and they all rattle slatted very few thousand kilometres (miles).

But at least Pure turbos don't smoke like the other suppliers!

My question is, how come the stock turbos can last a lot more before they start rattling, compared to all the aftermarket turbos? Aren't they all just TD03 turbos with the same wastegate design anyway?

My stock turbos have only started rattling at 88,000 miles, and now I am looking for a replacement, but it looks like I'll be buying brand new OEM TD03 instead of any aftermarket offering! Just because I value reliability too much.

*I am only FBO btw
I'm guessing because actual r&d went into the oems. pisses me off when these aftermarket manufacturers claim upgraded parts and they fail at far less milage then oem.

That same set you're speaking of is smoking as well as rattling. it could be another issue causing the smoking but highly unlikely from what I've seen.
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I have a mate here in Australia with a RHD Pure Stage 2 turbos, and after only 10,000km (6,000 miles)! You can already hear the wastegates rattling. Like we all know, this will only get worse as he clocks more mileage on the car and soon enough they'll have to be pulled off the car for a wastegate rebuild.

I am not saying that Pure are bad at what they do, but it seems that all aftermarket turbos start rattling a lot earlier than the stock factory turbos. I have friends with Hexons, RB turbos and they all rattle slatted very few thousand kilometres (miles).

But at least Pure turbos don't smoke like the other suppliers!

My question is, how come the stock turbos can last a lot more before they start rattling, compared to all the aftermarket turbos? Aren't they all just TD03 turbos with the same wastegate design anyway?

My stock turbos have only started rattling at 88,000 miles, and now I am looking for a replacement, but it looks like I'll be buying brand new OEM TD03 instead of any aftermarket offering! Just because I value reliability too much.

*I am only FBO btw

I think you might be referring to my PS2s here mate
I can confirm they been on the car for less then 12 months
WG are rattling and they are starting to smoke
Problem is to have them checked by Pure, they will need to be pulled off the car and posted from Australia to the USA.
I cant be without a car for weeks let alone the $3000 to remove and reinstall plus the additional $700-$800 in shipping costs....
I switched from a smoking set of RBs to Pures for because of their reputation and reliability, hopefully something can be worked out...
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That sucks. To this point Pure has looked like the best option in terms of reliability.
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They probably all fail just people aren't talking about pure as much
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      01-03-2017, 11:20 PM   #85
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What about the mmp turbos how are those ? I know the earlier batch had a weld issue but he remedied that for people who were affected I believe.
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I've had my Pures for over a year and have had zero issues.. No rattle and no smoke.. I've been running them at 25-27 psi since I got them..
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What about the mmp turbos how are those ? I know the earlier batch had a weld issue but he remedied that for people who were affected I believe.
For me when the first ever batch come with a defect... run for the hills. Especially after part of sales pitch for those units were personal inspection & quality. Guess it's hard to know what to look and to judge quality when the person is not a real turbo manufacturer.
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For me when the first ever batch come with a defect... run for the hills. Especially after part of sales pitch for those units were personal inspection & quality. Guess it's hard to know what to look and to judge quality when the person is not a real turbo manufacturer.
That was a relatively small defect, and he went out of his way to fix it. I haven't heard of any real failures yet so I will give him the benefit of the doubt.

What qualifies someone as a "real turbo manufacturer"? As far as I know every turbo vendor on this platform are assembling parts made by others with some doing a few machined parts in-house.
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