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      02-27-2016, 12:27 PM   #67
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I always clear dme codes and all modules after each flash.
Do you use MHD for that..??
I just use INPA since Its already hooked up from flashing the tranny. MHD should work the same though.
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      02-27-2016, 12:36 PM   #68
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I'm back to 5835 and the latest flash from Wedge.

The car is buttery smooth all around. Sport mode is much smoother thanks to Wedge and the D mode on the Alpina 5835 seems more responsive and smoother. I can barely tell when it shifts 1 2 3 4 buy 40 MPH LOL

I'm actually fairly content but now and then I still downshift manually when I know I need some acceleration and don't want to load up with boost.

I have paddles so it's not the end of the world as it just takes a quick blip.

When I flashed to US Sport I had a bunch of codes, mainly tranny codes, I've never seen so many codes at once. I had to clear them a few times with ignition on and engine off with MHD. You could use INPA too.

I still had the 4x4 light and a couple others, so I had to drive around a few miles, shut the car off and turn it back on and they eventually went away.

When I went back to Alpina 5835 I had no codes.
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      02-27-2016, 03:17 PM   #69
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I'm back to 5835 and the latest flash from Wedge.

The car is buttery smooth all around. Sport mode is much smoother thanks to Wedge and the D mode on the Alpina 5835 seems more responsive and smoother. I can barely tell when it shifts 1 2 3 4 buy 40 MPH LOL

I'm actually fairly content but now and then I still downshift manually when I know I need some acceleration and don't want to load up with boost.

I have paddles so it's not the end of the world as it just takes a quick blip.

When I flashed to US Sport I had a bunch of codes, mainly tranny codes, I've never seen so many codes at once. I had to clear them a few times with ignition on and engine off with MHD. You could use INPA too.

I still had the 4x4 light and a couple others, so I had to drive around a few miles, shut the car off and turn it back on and they eventually went away.

When I went back to Alpina 5835 I had no codes.
Isnt 5835 the older alpina flash? I thinks theres an updated one with even smoother shifts!
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Isnt 5835 the older alpina flash? I thinks theres an updated one with even smoother shifts!
According to Wedge, the numbers are sequential, the higher the number the newer the file. Therefore 5835 is the newest of all the ones people have tried. I think people referred to the other one as new because it was more recently discovered.

I've tried both and they are pretty similar.
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      02-27-2016, 05:52 PM   #71
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Isnt 5835 the older alpina flash? I thinks theres an updated one with even smoother shifts!
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According to Wedge, the numbers are sequential, the higher the number the newer the file. Therefore 5835 is the newest of all the ones people have tried. I think people referred to the other one as new because it was more recently discovered.

I've tried both and they are pretty similar.
5835 is the newest. The OP and his information is slightly incorrect.
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      02-27-2016, 06:32 PM   #72
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Image is a screen cap from the URL the OP posted. Appreciate the info but my personal experience with 7615835 is that D runs like ass. Are you saying I'm better off running the stock TCU flash if I dont like 7615835? 7601494 feels 100% better in my car but I'm also not interested in ruining the tranny
There are only a hand full of people in the world that has ran the Alpina flash longer than me. 1. People who own a Alpina B3s 2. A few people who paid someone at an Alpina dealership big $ to update their transmission. So, I'm only aware of 1 other person and that's Tomaz from Russia and he had an Alpina dealer do it for @ $500. He posted the ZB on BB and I was the first person that I'm aware of to flash it with WinKFP.

There is nothing stopping you from flashing your transmission with any of the GKE215 ZB#'s, but that doesn't mean it will perform well. We have no visibility to transmission line pressure. So we really don't know what the transmission is doing.

You can disable UIF write and flash your transmission as much as you want. It takes all of 5 min unless you put an old ZB# that has a different base rom. Then it needs to go through the write process twice. Rom/Map...

I personally run my car in manual all the time. Once in awhile I will drop it in drive for heavy traffic. So if you don't like drive you have two options, stay in sport or flash to another map that works and be happy with the side effects.
I thought if you had a pre 03/07 car you can not flash the Alpina B3 to your transmission because the TCU has only 500mb of memory. The post 03/07 cars got a TCU with 1gb of memory, which allows for the flash to occur.

Basically, the only option for a pre 03/07 owner is to find a post 03/07 TCU unit in a junk yard and transplant it in their transmission, if they really want to have the Alpina B3 trans flash. Cost is over $800.00 American and these TCU units are not easily found by themselves.

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      02-27-2016, 08:43 PM   #73
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Image is a screen cap from the URL the OP posted. Appreciate the info but my personal experience with 7615835 is that D runs like ass. Are you saying I'm better off running the stock TCU flash if I dont like 7615835? 7601494 feels 100% better in my car but I'm also not interested in ruining the tranny
There are only a hand full of people in the world that has ran the Alpina flash longer than me. 1. People who own a Alpina B3s 2. A few people who paid someone at an Alpina dealership big $ to update their transmission. So, I'm only aware of 1 other person and that's Tomaz from Russia and he had an Alpina dealer do it for @ $500. He posted the ZB on BB and I was the first person that I'm aware of to flash it with WinKFP.

There is nothing stopping you from flashing your transmission with any of the GKE215 ZB#'s, but that doesn't mean it will perform well. We have no visibility to transmission line pressure. So we really don't know what the transmission is doing.

You can disable UIF write and flash your transmission as much as you want. It takes all of 5 min unless you put an old ZB# that has a different base rom. Then it needs to go through the write process twice. Rom/Map...

I personally run my car in manual all the time. Once in awhile I will drop it in drive for heavy traffic. So if you don't like drive you have two options, stay in sport or flash to another map that works and be happy with the side effects.
I thought if you had a pre 03/07 car you can not flash the Alpina B3 to your transmission because the TCU has only 500mb of memory. The post 03/07 cars got a TCU with 1gb of memory, which allows for the flash to occur.

Basically, the only option for a pre 03/07 owner is to find a post 03/07 TCU unit in a junk yard and transplant it in their transmission, if they really want to have the Alpina B3 trans flash. Cost is over $800.00 American and these TCU units are not easily found by themselves.

Please advise
Right now it would be a better investment to just buy the complete trans from 08-09 , swap them out and sell yours .
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      02-27-2016, 09:04 PM   #74
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Honestly, the Alpina flash is not worth going through all that effort. It is a mixed bag of changes, the M Mode is pretty good and the S mode decent, but at the expense of the responsive D mode that you already have. D mode shifts up as fast as it can and is not responsive to downshift short of the kickdown switch. It makes driving in D mode horrible around town. Sadly, that is what I do most of the time.

It is not a win-win situation and you can see that if you read all of the posts above.
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      02-28-2016, 09:52 AM   #75
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Nailed it!
I've been on alpina for over a year, and this is exactly what I do - D only when stuck in traffic - S everyday cruising (esp when starting from cold and not gunning) - M - when I want to WOT



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I'm back to 5835 and the latest flash from Wedge.

The car is buttery smooth all around. Sport mode is much smoother thanks to Wedge and the D mode on the Alpina 5835 seems more responsive and smoother. I can barely tell when it shifts 1 2 3 4 buy 40 MPH LOL

I'm actually fairly content but now and then I still downshift manually when I know I need some acceleration and don't want to load up with boost.

I have paddles so it's not the end of the world as it just takes a quick blip.

When I flashed to US Sport I had a bunch of codes, mainly tranny codes, I've never seen so many codes at once. I had to clear them a few times with ignition on and engine off with MHD. You could use INPA too.

I still had the 4x4 light and a couple others, so I had to drive around a few miles, shut the car off and turn it back on and they eventually went away.

When I went back to Alpina 5835 I had no codes.
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I have a working hypothesis that I would like for you guys to comment on:

I believe that the TCU is looking at the pedal position sensor as part of the equation as to when to shift when in D, instead of the throttle position sensor. I switched to "linear throttle" mode (is this a Cobb only option?) and the transmission seems a lot less sluggish in D mode. This is obviously another mixed bag, since you have to push the pedal a lot farther to achieve the same response, but the transmission seems a lot more responsive.

I need to test in S mode and see if it makes a difference there too.

Anyone else ever try this?
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      03-14-2016, 01:55 PM   #77
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I have a working hypothesis that I would like for you guys to comment on:

I believe that the TCU is looking at the pedal position sensor as part of the equation as to when to shift when in D, instead of the throttle position sensor. I switched to "linear throttle" mode (is this a Cobb only option?) and the transmission seems a lot less sluggish in D mode. This is obviously another mixed bag, since you have to push the pedal a lot farther to achieve the same response, but the transmission seems a lot more responsive.

I need to test in S mode and see if it makes a difference there too.

Anyone else ever try this?
I tried this with MHD and yes it seems better but I think that's just because it's running more throttle with none linear and causes a bit of a resistance on the transmission and kind of makes a deep labouring vibrationas there is not enough RPM for the gear. With linear it's not getting as much throttle so seems better maybe. I dunno maybe your right. I agree linear is not as much fun and my car feels way quicker and more responsive without it. Also linear caused jerking with me coming off throttle sometimes on MHD. I also noticed from logs that its never really 100% linear.

What does your change at when warm with the linear option?
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      03-14-2016, 02:05 PM   #78
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When it changes is relative to how much throttle is being given, but it is at least 500rpm higher than with stock throttle. I tested S mode and it seems to shift at a higher RPM as well.

I miss the responsiveness of the stock throttle, but have to admit that it is pretty abrupt when you are FBO. If you already driving aggressively a small stab of the throttle can break the tires loose very easily. Linear throttle makes it a lot easier to modulate the throttle when cornering, although it feels as if I have lost 100hp. I like the way the transmission responded to the change, it makes the Alpina flash a lot more tolerable in D mode.

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Not sure where you got the JPG from, but the information provided in the JPG is wrong.

ZB # are incremental, and larger numbers are the newer files. 7615835 is the last Alpina B3s transmission flash that was released and has a direct impact on torque limiters. The Alpina flash is listed as an E90 N54B30ATL ECE flash and was released in 2010. It is the most recent N54 AT specific transmission flash that has been released for the GS19.11.0 transmission, again this is specific to the N54.

All of the 760xxxx files were done in 2009.

There are two older flashes you can try. 7603537 and 7603535... Both are E90 N54B30ATL ECE flashes.

7603527 is a flash for the E82 N54B30ATL and release in 2009, so I'm not sure how anyone made the assumption it was a 2011 sport flash.

7603541 is from an E89 N52B30OL. Not even an N54 transmission flash.

7601494 is also an E89 N52B30OL. Still not an N54 transmission flash.

There are a lot of GKE215 ZB#'s you can play with. Not all were designed for making the power our cars make. I have to laugh when people without any knowledge of what they are talking about release old ZB#s as newer numbers as if they found something new. Depending on the power you are making, chances are you'll have torque limiters in higher gears or your clutch pack will slip because the line pressure isn't high enough.
tkx. then N52 330 can try 7603541 / 7601494?? ie using GKE215 ZB
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Alpina B3 with JB4- errors/issues.

Please forgive if I missed another thread with this. I run a 2007 e93 335N54(post 03) with a JB4, 93 OCT, upgrade intercooler, oil cooler, intake etc so power is pushing pretty high (can't do DPs or sport cats easily here)

Any known issues with JB4 and the TCU flash software to throw errors?

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Not sure where you got the JPG from, but the information provided in the JPG is wrong.

ZB # are incremental, and larger numbers are the newer files. 7615835 is the last Alpina B3s transmission flash that was released and has a direct impact on torque limiters. The Alpina flash is listed as an E90 N54B30ATL ECE flash and was released in 2010. It is the most recent N54 AT specific transmission flash that has been released for the GS19.11.0 transmission, again this is specific to the N54.

All of the 760xxxx files were done in 2009.
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7601494 is also an E89 N52B30OL. Still not an N54 transmission flash.
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Please forgive if I missed another thread with this. I run a 2007 e93 335N54(post 03) with a JB4, 93 OCT, upgrade intercooler, oil cooler, intake etc so power is pushing pretty high (can't do DPs or sport cats easily here)

Any known issues with JB4 and the TCU flash software to throw errors?
They do not throw errors. Completely separate of each other.
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I'm back to 5835 and the latest flash from Wedge.

The car is buttery smooth all around. Sport mode is much smoother thanks to Wedge and the D mode on the Alpina 5835 seems more responsive and smoother. I can barely tell when it shifts 1 2 3 4 buy 40 MPH LOL

I'm actually fairly content but now and then I still downshift manually when I know I need some acceleration and don't want to load up with boost.

I have paddles so it's not the end of the world as it just takes a quick blip.

When I flashed to US Sport I had a bunch of codes, mainly tranny codes, I've never seen so many codes at once. I had to clear them a few times with ignition on and engine off with MHD. You could use INPA too.

I still had the 4x4 light and a couple others, so I had to drive around a few miles, shut the car off and turn it back on and they eventually went away.

When I went back to Alpina 5835 I had no codes.
What is the latest flash from Wedge? Is that a tune?
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