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      05-23-2008, 10:17 PM   #67
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They obviously chose to change pistons for a reason.
Well, one good reason is to make more money while upgraded pistons are usually a great idea on a turbo motor, when the stock pistons are fairly stout, (which our's are) it might be easier to just run a thicker head gasket, although that may have timing issues.
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      05-26-2008, 06:54 AM   #68
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Hi Eugen,

It's nice to hear that you have the Dahler tune (360bhp). I am very interested about the Dahler tun as well in my 135i. I have got two questions about that tune:

1) How do you know that Dahler and Noelle are the same (for the 360bhp)?
2) What are your experiences until now about the Dahler tune? Does the car feel faster? Is the car faster? do you have a dynorun of your car?

I am looking forward to your answers.

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      05-26-2008, 08:43 AM   #69
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Hi Eugen,

It's nice to hear that you have the Dahler tune (360bhp). I am very interested about the Dahler tun as well in my 135i. I have got two questions about that tune:

1) How do you know that Dahler and Noelle are the same (for the 360bhp)?
2) What are your experiences until now about the Dahler tune? Does the car feel faster? Is the car faster? do you have a dynorun of your car?

I am looking forward to your answers.

Kind regards,
Ferdinand (the Netherlands)
Eugen made clear that he got the Noelle Tune! What else are you reading for breakfast??
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      05-26-2008, 08:54 AM   #70
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Eugen made clear that he got the Noelle Tune! What else are you reading for breakfast??
OMG. You have to explain everything to some people, but ok. Why would Dahler install the Noelle tune for Eugen, if they have a Dahler tune of themselves? So I presume (it's very obvious to me), the Dahler tune = Noelle tune and visa versa. But maybe Eugen can answer this question, don't you think so?
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      05-26-2008, 09:04 AM   #71
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Eugen made clear that he got the Noelle Tune! What else are you reading for breakfast??
Don't behave like a bitch to new people on the board please.
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      05-26-2008, 09:16 AM   #72
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I have only been told that they found the problem and fixed it.
They fixed it?! Wow! A band-aid fix like the Dinan water pump & thermo software & DI adjustment, or is this Alpina's change of piston crown design? If it's the water pump etc. then that augers well for the flash tuning route.
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      05-28-2008, 02:44 AM   #73
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Hi Eugen,

It's nice to hear that you have the Dahler tune (360bhp). I am very interested about the Dahler tun as well in my 135i. I have got two questions about that tune:

1) How do you know that Dahler and Noelle are the same (for the 360bhp)?
2) What are your experiences until now about the Dahler tune? Does the car feel faster? Is the car faster? do you have a dynorun of your car?

I am looking forward to your answers.

Kind regards,
Ferdinand (the Netherlands)
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      05-28-2008, 02:51 AM   #74
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congrats! now off to the dyno please!



Uh, it will most likely be $1999 + labor + tax, if I'm not mistaken...
Stage 2 Dinan flash is only 1 hour rate charge. Nothing really, dealer hourly rates vary.
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      05-28-2008, 03:07 AM   #75
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Hi Eugen,

It's nice to hear that you have the Dahler tune (360bhp). I am very interested about the Dahler tun as well in my 135i. I have got two questions about that tune:

1) How do you know that Dahler and Noelle are the same (for the 360bhp)?
2) What are your experiences until now about the Dahler tune? Does the car feel faster? Is the car faster? do you have a dynorun of your car?

I am looking forward to your answers.

Kind regards,
Ferdinand (the Netherlands)
Hi Ferdinand,

1: Mr. Noelle confirmed this in an email to me. Mr. Dähler confirmed as well.
2: The car feels really fast, much faster than stock and has different characteristics how power is developed compared to the piggybacks. I will make a dynorun in the next 2-4 weeks.

I am very happy with the Noelle ECU flash so far. I had to disconnect my car's battery to get rid of slight hiccups when idling in steptronic "D" mode.

Regards,
Eugen
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      05-29-2008, 07:00 PM   #76
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Well, one good reason is to make more money while upgraded pistons are usually a great idea on a turbo motor, when the stock pistons are fairly stout, (which our's are) it might be easier to just run a thicker head gasket, although that may have timing issues.
Not that simple. Correctly designed LC pistons maintain the VERY specific characteristics of the DI design for stratified charge burns while allowing one to use more boost safely and make more power on the same octane fuel. Squish is more important than ever with DI leaving a head gasket as a no-no.
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      06-02-2008, 05:30 PM   #78
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As for the guarantee: Does Dähler offer one?
Yes, NSA.

You can call him to explain.

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      06-03-2008, 12:31 AM   #79
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      06-05-2008, 04:16 AM   #80
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Hi Ferdinand,

1: Mr. Noelle confirmed this in an email to me. Mr. Dähler confirmed as well.
2: The car feels really fast, much faster than stock and has different characteristics how power is developed compared to the piggybacks. I will make a dynorun in the next 2-4 weeks.

I am very happy with the Noelle ECU flash so far. I had to disconnect my car's battery to get rid of slight hiccups when idling in steptronic "D" mode.

Regards,
Eugen

Hi Eugen,

I am looking forward to your Dynoruns. I do believe Dahler and Noelle are perfect engineers. I have driven the Dahler Mini Cooper Works Water-to-air (227Bhp) and that was great! But after all, I have chosen AC Schnitzer for my performance mod (360hp) on the 135i. For some reasons:

1. AC Schnitzer is close to my home. If I have any problem with the modification, I can go to them.
2. Because Alpina and AC Schnitzer are the home-tuners of BMW, the full BMW warranty remains. AC Schnitzer = BMW Rennsport. That gives me confidence (in case of problems).
3. When BMW comes in the future (for some reason) with an ECU update (during maintenance) the AC Schnitzer software will not be overwritten.
4. The performance mods includes a full package:
- software update (first the AC Schnitzer flash will be uploaded, and then, my car will be fine-tuned to really get the 360hp).
- another exhaust system, and
- speedometer will be replaced/updated (up to 310 km/h).

AC Schnitzer delivers the car with a certificate.

So, when the car is tuned, I will send you the dyno as well.

Greets, Ferdinand.

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      06-05-2008, 06:49 AM   #81
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Hi Eugen,

I am looking forward to your Dynoruns. I do believe Dahler and Noelle are perfect engineers. I have driven the Dahler Mini Cooper Works Water-to-air (227Bhp) and that was great! But after all, I have chosen AC Schnitzer for my performance mod (360hp) on the 135i. For some reasons:

1. AC Schnitzer is close to my home. If I have any problem with the modification, I can go to them.
2. Because Alpina and AC Schnitzer are the home-tuners of BMW, the full BMW warranty remains. AC Schnitzer = BMW Rennsport. That gives me confidence (in case of problems).
3. When BMW comes in the future (for some reason) with an ECU update (during maintenance) the AC Schnitzer software will not be overwritten.
4. The performance mods includes a full package:
- software update (first the AC Schnitzer flash will be uploaded, and then, my car will be fine-tuned to really get the 360hp).
- another exhaust system, and
- speedometer will be replaced/updated (up to 310 km/h).

AC Schnitzer delivers the car with a certificate.

So, when the car is tuned, I will send you the dyno as well.

Greets, Ferdinand.

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Hi Ferdinand! Where can I find more info about this tune?

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...AC Schnitzer kit costs a fortune...
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It seems to me that the AC Schnitzer tune is the Noelle tune ( ECU only ) ...
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      06-05-2008, 10:09 AM   #84
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It seems to me that the AC Schnitzer tune is the Noelle tune ( ECU only ) ...
Price and info please Eugen!
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      06-05-2008, 10:55 AM   #85
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sounds good. but Noelle is damn expensive...


by the way: the best BMW tuner in switzerland is Emmenegger Power in Alpnach.
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Hi Eugen,

I am looking forward to your Dynoruns. I do believe Dahler and Noelle are perfect engineers. I have driven the Dahler Mini Cooper Works Water-to-air (227Bhp) and that was great! But after all, I have chosen AC Schnitzer for my performance mod (360hp) on the 135i. For some reasons:

1. AC Schnitzer is close to my home. If I have any problem with the modification, I can go to them.
2. Because Alpina and AC Schnitzer are the home-tuners of BMW, the full BMW warranty remains. AC Schnitzer = BMW Rennsport. That gives me confidence (in case of problems).
3. When BMW comes in the future (for some reason) with an ECU update (during maintenance) the AC Schnitzer software will not be overwritten.
4. The performance mods includes a full package:
- software update (first the AC Schnitzer flash will be uploaded, and then, my car will be fine-tuned to really get the 360hp).
- another exhaust system, and
- speedometer will be replaced/updated (up to 310 km/h).

AC Schnitzer delivers the car with a certificate.

So, when the car is tuned, I will send you the dyno as well.

Greets, Ferdinand.

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360hp without some work on the engine?

tell me why Alpina puts some other pistons on the B3 Biturbo with 360hp to become a lower engine-compression?
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      06-05-2008, 11:04 AM   #87
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where can i get the updated spedometer up to 310km/h?
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360hp without some work on the engine?

tell me why Alpina puts some other pistons on the B3 Biturbo with 360hp to become a lower engine-compression?
Tell me why the same guy who was developing the B3 Biturbo with the lower engine-compression tunes the 335i like this ? You should not tune your engine, I guess. The 335i is a nice car stock as well.

All tunings I used ( Procede V1, PROcede V2, JB2H and the new AA Active Processor ) and most of us use deliver >= 360 hp crank. My car is in a perfect condition. I will add the Spearco FMIC and a bigger Oil-Cooler soon. Cooler = Stronger = Better.

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