Beta v3 maps posted

Lane · 07-13-2008, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

Not if you have a set of drag radils on when you're at the strip going for the best times.

I thought you had some tire slippage at MT shifts with Nittos. Perhaps you heat them better or V3 has less torque than V1 or both.

NRG · 07-13-2008, 03:44 PM

Updated the new "Stage 1" map/firm, butter smooth indeed on 6AT. Big improvement IMO. Great job Vishnu and e90AW335i.

e90AW335i · 07-13-2008, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NRG

Updated the new "Stage 1" map/firm, butter smooth indeed on 6AT. Big improvement IMO. Great job Vishnu and e90AW335i.

Glad you like it! All the props go to Shiv for designing the new firmware. All I did was tell him what would be nice on an AT....

Driver72 · 07-13-2008, 09:02 PM

Shiv, let me see if I got this straight:

With the Beta v3 maps released 7-11 if you load up
Stage 0 map and have NOT hooked up the map switcher you are driving around with the Doomsday map and can not switch to the non-doomsday map?
Is that correct?

Now, once these maps are no longer in the "beta" stage and become v3.1 you will not incorporate the Map1 and Map2 together but have them separated so customers who have not hooked up the remote map switcher can just simply upload the Doomsday or Non-Doomsday map on their own and it will always be on that choosen map?
Is that correct?

Mr. 5 · 07-13-2008, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by lawdude

Which drag radials do you run?

I have Nitto 555R 245/45 17s.

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Originally Posted by Lane

I thought you had some tire slippage at MT shifts with Nittos. Perhaps you heat them better or V3 has less torque than V1 or both.

Nope, I heat them real good now. I was struggling a bit in the past trying to get them to the perfect temp, but now I'm fine--even with the peg leg.

Back on topic... is the reason for this thread mainly for ATs or will I notice any benifits with my manual?
I'm just curious if I should switch.

e90AW335i · 07-13-2008, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Driver72

Shiv, let me see if I got this straight:

With the Beta v3 maps released 7-11 if you load up
Stage 0 map and have NOT hooked up the map switcher you are driving around with the Doomsday map and can not switch to the non-doomsday map?
Is that correct?

Now, once these maps are no longer in the "beta" stage and become v3.1 you will not incorporate the Map1 and Map2 together but have them separated so customers who have not hooked up the remote map switcher can just simply upload the Doomsday or Non-Doomsday map on their own and it will always be on that choosen map?
Is that correct?

Everything you said is correct except the bolded part. If you dont have the map switcher hooked up the PROcede will default to Map 2 which is the non-doomsday map.

oc24 · 07-13-2008, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tek818

Shiv: I think I just made a sale for you. Gave a customer on the fence a test drive...

Thanks again man, that was a blast. Probably the most fun I've had in a car since the Nurburgring...

kitw · 07-14-2008, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

Back on topic... is the reason for this thread mainly for ATs or will I notice any benifits with my manual?
I'm just curious if I should switch.

Just installed it on the 6MT and love it. It feels very smooth and the car has a quite a bit more low end than before. (was running a doomsday Map 2 before)

Mr. 5 · 07-14-2008, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kitw

Just installed it on the 6MT and love it. It feels very smooth and the car has a quite a bit more low end than before. (was running a doomsday Map 2 before)

I'd like to get some feedback from someone that was running the regular Map 2 before. That's what I'm running now.

kitw · 07-14-2008, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

I'd like to get some feedback from someone that was running the regular Map 2 before. That's what I'm running now.

I've been V3'd since beta, so I've run all the maps shiv has put out.

It feels similar to the early V3 maps but a LOT smoother, no more dips in the power and much stronger on the top end. The car has never felt better than it does right now. (Started with early V3, then went to doomsday, now running the V81 compatible wiring with a non-doomsday map)

Remember that if you flash to the maps Shiv posted, you'll need firmware too. If you want to go back to the map you're running now, make sure you have the firmware you're running backed up.

onefastdoc · 07-14-2008, 07:13 PM

I just tried the Stage 1 map on my non-MSD81 (and have dual cones) and it feels great. Feels smooth and seems to pull harder all around.

inthemiddle · 07-15-2008, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by onefastdoc

I just tried the Stage 1 map on my non-MSD81 (and have dual cones) and it feels great. Feels smooth and seems to pull harder all around.

Ditto all of the above. And I have Vishnu exhast too. Since I loaded the new beta stg 1 map from a couple days ago my exhaust tone pulsates 4-5 times per second.

Car runs great. Always sounded good before. Now between 2500 and 5000 (or more) rpm it does this weird pulsing thing. It seems to pull smooth. Just sounds funny. (exhaust timing maybe ???). Anyone else ?

kaji335i · 07-15-2008, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by inthemiddle

Ditto all of the above. And I have Vishnu exhast too. Since I loaded the new beta stg 1 map from a couple days ago my exhaust tone pulsates 4-5 times per second.

Car runs great. Always sounded good before. Now between 2500 and 5000 (or more) rpm it does this weird pulsing thing. It seems to pull smooth. Just sounds funny. (exhaust timing maybe ???). Anyone else ?

Shouldn't you run stage 0 if you are not running a open element air filter? I thought stage 1 maps were for people who are not running the stock air box.

e90AW335i · 07-15-2008, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by onefastdoc

I just tried the Stage 1 map on my non-MSD81 (and have dual cones) and it feels great. Feels smooth and seems to pull harder all around.

Quote:

Originally Posted by inthemiddle

Ditto all of the above. And I have Vishnu exhast too. Since I loaded the new beta stg 1 map from a couple days ago my exhaust tone pulsates 4-5 times per second.

Car runs great. Always sounded good before. Now between 2500 and 5000 (or more) rpm it does this weird pulsing thing. It seems to pull smooth. Just sounds funny. (exhaust timing maybe ???). Anyone else ?

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Originally Posted by kaji335i

Shouldn't you run stage 0 if you are not running a open element air filter? I thought stage 1 maps were for people who are not running the stock air box.

Re-read the bolded section.

tek818 · 07-15-2008, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kitw

If you want to go back to the map you're running now, make sure you have the firmware you're running backed up.

are you sure about this? I asked shiv this question in the past and he said firmwares are designed to be backwards compatible...

kaji335i · 07-15-2008, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by e90AW335i

Re-read the bolded section.

my bad, gg not reading everything.

Mr. 5 · 07-15-2008, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tek818

are you sure about this? I asked shiv this question in the past and he said firmwares are designed to be backwards compatible...

I don't know about this.
Maybe it's only the case with V3 maps, but I'll guarantee that if you want to go back to V2, and you are currently running the PNP V3 then there is no way that it will work.

e90AW335i · 07-15-2008, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tek818

are you sure about this? I asked shiv this question in the past and he said firmwares are designed to be backwards compatible...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. 5

I don't know about this.
Maybe it's only the case with V3 maps, but I'll guarantee that if you want to go back to V2, and you are currently running the PNP V3 then there is no way that it will work.

You always have to reload the appropriate firmware to go with a certain map.

tek818 · 07-15-2008, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

I don't know about this.
Maybe it's only the case with V3 maps, but I'll guarantee that if you want to go back to V2, and you are currently running the PNP V3 then there is no way that it will work.

that is obvious... I wasn't talking about that scenario. I guess it all depends on what types of revisions are done that will determine the backwards compatibility of the firmware.

Eliminator · 07-15-2008, 08:43 PM

I'm waiting for the 09 335i with (obviously) MSD V81, can someone confirm if the PROcede V3 is detectable, with a fair amount of certainty? With all else stock, what can I expect in terms of HP and TQ? Do I have to run Non-Doomsday only for non-detectability? THX! Great thread.

scalbert · 07-16-2008, 09:51 AM

Hrmm, been running the new firmware and maps for a couple of days now. While it is smooth, I am not sure I am in agreement with the boost to throttle mapping; it may be a bit too aggressive for me. There is more boost with less throttle than the previous iteration leaving little to nothing left when 100% throttle is applied.

scalbert · 07-16-2008, 09:52 AM

And yes, always install the appropriate firmware to for a specific map. There are far too many variables to account for not to take the extra minute to load the firmware.

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NRG Lieutenant Colonel 38 Rep 1,658 Posts Drives: 2012 X5 35d Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Montreal QC iTrader: (5)	Updated the new "Stage 1" map/firm, butter smooth indeed on 6AT. Big improvement IMO. Great job Vishnu and e90AW335i.
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Driver72 Brigadier General 351 Rep 4,484 Posts Drives: 335i - to new owners now. Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: California iTrader: (0)	Shiv, let me see if I got this straight: With the Beta v3 maps released 7-11 if you load up Stage 0 map and have NOT hooked up the map switcher you are driving around with the Doomsday map and can not switch to the non-doomsday map? Is that correct? Now, once these maps are no longer in the "beta" stage and become v3.1 you will not incorporate the Map1 and Map2 together but have them separated so customers who have not hooked up the remote map switcher can just simply upload the Doomsday or Non-Doomsday map on their own and it will always be on that choosen map? Is that correct?
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onefastdoc Lieutenant 122 Rep 425 Posts Drives: 2016 F80 M3 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: L.A. iTrader: (2)	I just tried the Stage 1 map on my non-MSD81 (and have dual cones) and it feels great. Feels smooth and seems to pull harder all around.
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Eliminator First Lieutenant 33 Rep 311 Posts Drives: 2008 M3 SSII 6M, '87 911 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Michigan iTrader: (0)	I'm waiting for the 09 335i with (obviously) MSD V81, can someone confirm if the PROcede V3 is detectable, with a fair amount of certainty? With all else stock, what can I expect in terms of HP and TQ? Do I have to run Non-Doomsday only for non-detectability? THX! Great thread.
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scalbert Major General 158 Rep 5,776 Posts Drives: '13 S4, '15 Q7 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Woodstock, GA iTrader: (8)	Hrmm, been running the new firmware and maps for a couple of days now. While it is smooth, I am not sure I am in agreement with the boost to throttle mapping; it may be a bit too aggressive for me. There is more boost with less throttle than the previous iteration leaving little to nothing left when 100% throttle is applied.
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scalbert Major General 158 Rep 5,776 Posts Drives: '13 S4, '15 Q7 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Woodstock, GA iTrader: (8)	And yes, always install the appropriate firmware to for a specific map. There are far too many variables to account for not to take the extra minute to load the firmware.
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