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      09-11-2006, 02:03 PM   #67
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no, I didn't know what he meant, he said SA and to anyone in BMW NA land, that's service advisor. BMW NA does indeed use those acronyms for all of its territory. It's completely standardized.
Client Advisor and Service Consultant is what shows on the business cards I have.
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      09-11-2006, 02:11 PM   #68
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If you live in a state that charges sales tax, when you register the car in that state, you better believe they will be collecting. Doesn't matter where you bought the car.
how about 'moving' just to register the car, then move back to where you belong heh heh.
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      09-11-2006, 02:13 PM   #69
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Also TAX, TITLE, and all the BS fees, are a total loss...and should not be counted in the amount of money that he takes as a loss..he should sell the car privatly for 40k and get the new coupe.
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That $5k is a given lost. So technically you've lost about $10k.
Regardless of the wisodom [or lack thereof] of trading in a 2-month old car tax and tag fees are not "a complete loss".

In every state that I know of tags are transferable for a small fee and you only pay taxes on the difference between the new car sales price and your down payment/trade.

Therefore tax and tag fees will likely not exceed $300-$350.
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      09-11-2006, 02:14 PM   #70
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how about 'moving' just to register the car, then move back to where you belong heh heh.
dunno?? maybe you have to stay away for a little while? Pretty easy to check. We had a DMV bus come to our office and I had a conversation with the guy about this. He was completely open about it.
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      09-11-2006, 02:35 PM   #71
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a dmv 'bus'?
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      09-11-2006, 02:38 PM   #72
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yea.. a bus. CT has a DMV bus that goes to offices so people dont have to go to DMV. It only comes around like 1 per year or something... and it doesnt go everywhere, i dont know the schedule or how to get it to come to your office. I just know we had one.
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      09-11-2006, 02:46 PM   #73
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I love how this thread is turning into random banters.

So, did anyone saw the US Open? That Federer is good eh?
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if you paid almost $50k Im guessing you must have paid about $5k for taxes and license. That $5k is a given lost. So technically you've lost about $10k. As soon as you drove off the lot it became a used car so that's a few grand off. The dealer, of course, was low balling you so you can figure a few more grand into that. In short- you should look at it as if you've lost about $6k-7k (which is still a boatload of money).

just wondering- why did you buy a 330 when you knew the 335 was coming out???
This is almost verbatim what I was going to say, too. You should only pay though like 1000 to 1200 in taxes on the car (you only pay on the difference between the new car and the old car), but not sure how much your tag and license would be. Even if that added with the tax difference was 2k, there's 13k more unaccounted for. I can easily see 5k to 7k in loss, right out the door. Factor in some as well if you are paying full MSRP on the 335i.
depreciation a meer 2 months after you bought the car. Add in the fact that you appear to have definitely overpaid for your 330i, and I can see your frustration. However, the last thing anyone should be doing is looking at trading in or buying a new car after they just bought a car 2 months ago.
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      09-11-2006, 09:34 PM   #75
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oregon is sales tax free ?
So far yes!
i dont know how other states work but i dont see how you would have to pay a "sales tax" if it wasnt in your state, Just the registration costs/ tax.

the bad thing is we STILL cant pump our own gas..

For awhile there were tons of people from out of state registering their
vehicles here, cause it was so cheap.. they cracked down and is difficult again.

Also alot of dealers/ business do not charge sales tax in neighboring states to OR residents w/ ID.. Fyi.:rocks:
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that's gotta KILL not being able to pump your own, I'd imagine it adds a ton of time to a gas stop, although you'd be used to it though so maybe it wouldn't seem so bad
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this is unacceptable, I thought BMW had good resale value
write your congressman LOL
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I love how this thread is turning into random banters.

So, did anyone saw the US Open? That Federer is good eh?
where's Victor?

Yeah I watched it, he got a big check but they could have kept the lexus
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      09-11-2006, 09:59 PM   #79
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that's gotta KILL not being able to pump your own, I'd imagine it adds a ton of time to a gas stop, although you'd be used to it though so maybe it wouldn't seem so bad
yes it does suck!! and it takes a long time, sitting in yer car, with the pump shut off, preying the generally questionable gas jockey doesnt scratch/ or drip gas on your car!!

(i stand outside at the door and if they do any damage they can hand me a check or $$$.

i wish i knew how to make it LEGAL to pup your own. (not force it, it should still be a choise)
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Regardless of the wisodom [or lack thereof] of trading in a 2-month old car tax and tag fees are not "a complete loss".

In every state that I know of tags are transferable for a small fee and you only pay taxes on the difference between the new car sales price and your down payment/trade.

Therefore tax and tag fees will likely not exceed $300-$350.

you only pay sales tax on the new car price - down payment amt?

so if i make it such that down payment amt = 99% of new car price, i pay sales tax on 1% or the car price?
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you only pay sales tax on the new car price - down payment amt?

so if i make it such that down payment amt = 99% of new car price, i pay sales tax on 1% or the car price?

different states have different rules
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that's gotta KILL not being able to pump your own, I'd imagine it adds a ton of time to a gas stop, although you'd be used to it though so maybe it wouldn't seem so bad
whats so bad about not being able to pump your own gas, wasn't that like the 50's.
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different states have different rules
wow, that's hot. is there a chart anywhere online that shows this kind of info throughout USA?

weird stuff... what ever you set as downpayment is not taxed. so if you buy it straight out entirely 100%, guess that IS taxed? or is still considered a downpayment, a 100% downpayment, and ZERO sales tax?
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whats so bad about not being able to pump your own gas, wasn't that like the 50's.

you ever get annoyed because the guy at the fast food counter or at the drugstore was incompetant and slow..

yeah plus what if the guy spills gas on your car
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      09-11-2006, 11:31 PM   #85
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ah, good old Victor, that kid was funny

yeah, I'm guesing though he uses the lex as his winter beater, grocery getter, that type of deal
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where's Victor?

Yeah I watched it, he got a big check but they could have kept the lexus
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wow, that's hot. is there a chart anywhere online that shows this kind of info throughout USA?

weird stuff... what ever you set as downpayment is not taxed. so if you buy it straight out entirely 100%, guess that IS taxed? or is still considered a downpayment, a 100% downpayment, and ZERO sales tax?
someone explain this to me, because if what you are saying is true, then why wouldn't i trade into a dealer? for example:

- i trade in, get 35k, get a 335i at 45k, difference is 10k, tax on 10k say is 10% (for simplicity), i pay 1k in taxes. i pay 11k out of pocket.

- i sell privately, get 40k, get 335i at 45k, pay 4.5k in taxes. i pay 9.5k out of pocket.

really minimizes your loss in not trading in, especially if you factor in the fact that you don't have to waste time advertising, etc.
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Goddamnit nevermind:
Currently California, the District of Columbia, Hawaii, Maryland, and Michigan allow no deductions for trade-ins when calculating sales tax. In addition, Alaska, Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire, and Oregon have no sales tax on autos.
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someone explain this to me, because if what you are saying is true, then why wouldn't i trade into a dealer? for example:

- i trade in, get 35k, get a 335i at 45k, difference is 10k, tax on 10k say is 10% (for simplicity), i pay 1k in taxes. i pay 11k out of pocket.

- i sell privately, get 40k, get 335i at 45k, pay 4.5k in taxes. i pay 9.5k out of pocket.

really minimizes your loss in not trading in, especially if you factor in the fact that you don't have to waste time advertising, etc.
This is true...but different states run things differently...I don't think Cali credits you for sales tax paid on the turned in vehicle...AZ does...you need to check.
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