[enrita]

did you have the shift boost delay when you were running stock?

[marconi118]

Yes I think there is a delay... introduced after 29.2

It seems that the BMW performance KIT software 328HP removes this delay to give a more sporty response of the car.

Is it the same case with the GIAC

[enrita]

well GIAC flash is based on the first and best BMW ECU software so no lag at all.
dont know about the shifting since mine is AT but i have noticed a great improvement of the AT shifts with GIAC, much faster and smoother

[marconi118]

un italiano con cambio automatico?!

Si penso che fin da sempre c'é un ritardo nelle cambiate di marcia per ridurre lo stress sulla frizione... e rovinare il piacere di guida alla BMW

[enrita]

Originally Posted by marconi118

un italiano con cambio automatico?!

Si penso che fin da sempre c'é un ritardo nelle cambiate di marcia per ridurre lo stress sulla frizione... e rovinare il piacere di guida alla BMW

si! The AT is pretty good and you can drive pretty sporty with the paddels on the steering wheel.

[Mr. 5]

Originally Posted by marconi118

does the GIAC flash adress this problem: shift boost delay
Like procede is addressing now:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=301968

Yes, they do.
Once stage 2 comes out, it will be even better.

[shifterboy45]

Originally Posted by marconi118

does the GIAC flash adress this problem: shift boost delay
Like procede is addressing now:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=301968

From all reports the GIAC software came out with that feature integrated into their software package.

btw: shortly after the GIAC software hit the streets the "boost delay" issue was solved across the board. or maybe its just a coincidence

[Eugene-TAIWAN]

Its a huge so fun reading all of these comments by different people. but I know the Stage 2 is coming and its coming very soon. We have people waiting here in Taiwan aswell.
I just don't understand why the heck is Vishnu so defensive with all of the GIAC thing?? So what happens to the huge GIAC flash Porsche fans?? I think they use Flash ECU tuning for a reason.

[Raflekt]

Any news?

[e.n335]

Sure ... ever thought that there might not be a God at all ?

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Can u prove that God exists ...
Shiv

[old account 1]

Originally Posted by Darkcyd_Turbo

Like I mentioned before, with GIAC they utilized the VAG COM cable (which is nearly identical to our BT Tool) for the VW/Audi guys (I know because I have used it both my B5 Audi S4 and currently my wife's VW GTI) to be able to switch maps using a lap top instead of a handheld switcher. Go to GIAC's website and check out the "map switching" software they have available for download. So yea, if GIAC doesn't utilize the BT tool then you WILL NEED the handheld switcher to switch maps, but if they do us BMW guys right then hopefully we can use our BT Tool to switch maps as well...

Wish Austin or someone from GIAC would chime in...

Also, I already own one of their handheld switchers and it only works some of the time. So I tend to use my laptop on my wife's VW to switch from stock to flash for dealer visits.

Switching with a cable will depend on the level of encryption used on the CAN gateway. For the B5 S4, switching is done through K-line which carries no encryption. You will notice on 2.0T vehicles, we do not allow for switching with a vag-com as ross-tech encrypts their CAN gateway and we are unwilling to hack it. The same will hold true for the BT tool as we will not hack any encryption they might have. MSRP for our current handheld switcher is $150.00.

Being that this is a different make, I do not know if your current switcher will work with your BMW when the switching becomes available.

Regarding stage 2, we are making some big progress on it and I should have some information to release to you very soon.

[shifterboy45]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

It will be a part of the basic scope test during scheduled maintenance.

Shiv

dont mean to butt in but......

BMW has changed the labor for the standard scope --
which was:
interrogate fault memory and reset CBS data..


it will no longer incorporate the fault interrogation of the DME..
it will now be used for CBS data reset only ....

may wanna double check your source ..

[TreDirtyFive]

Originally Posted by marconi118

does the GIAC flash adress this problem: shift boost delay
Like procede is addressing now:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=301968

With my older JB3, It was also apparent, on an AT car, when nailing it at high speeds. Nearing redline, the car shifts quick but there is definite pause...even stock. Although, I've heard Terry* Shiv have fixed it with all the new bogfix stuff. I definitely had some slow shifts at WOT from 4th to 5th. BUT, on the GIAC...it seems to not bog or drop power at all. No throttle closure...it shifts fast and the power between gears is seamless at WOT. Wish it had less lag down low though!

[Nick@aep]

Originally Posted by fuzzy123

Shiv,

I definitely agree that you are a very knowledgeable & informed person... Much more then most of us, but it really does seem that your underlying motive by every post(that I see) is to put down every other product and promote v3... Not just with GIAC, with every other product.

I guess it's good business, and technically you don't usually spread false information, but it does get annoying that every thread you post in ends up turning into a debate.

My 2 cents, but I am glad you are here and for everything you have done for the community.


Sorry guys for getting off topic.

I agree with you here. Products and data can speak for themselves. In my opinion it is poor practice to consistently put down the competition. We'd never do that to anyone else's products.

Shiv has a wealth of info on the Procede and tuning, but its always a bit disappointing to see tuners make jabs like this. This is precisely why I did not post any comparison data against my Procede when I started running the GIAC Stage 1 flash and posting information on it... out of respect for Shiv, and the community as well.

Nick

[xsvspds]

Originally Posted by Nick@AEPerformance

I agree with you here. Products and data can speak for themselves. In my opinion is poor practice to consistently put down the competition. We'd never do that to anyone else's products.

Shiv has a wealth of info on the procede and tuning, but its always a bit disappointing to see tuners make jabs like this. This is precisely why I did not post any comparison data against my Procede I ran with the GIAC Stage 1 flash... out of respect for Shiv, and the community as well.

Nick

Well said Nick!

[bfi2906]

Originally Posted by Nick@AEPerformance

I agree with you here. Products and data can speak for themselves. In my opinion it is poor practice to consistently put down the competition. We'd never do that to anyone else's products.

Shiv has a wealth of info on the Procede and tuning, but its always a bit disappointing to see tuners make jabs like this. This is precisely why I did not post any comparison data against my Procede when I started running the GIAC Stage 1 flash and posting information on it... out of respect for Shiv, and the community as well.

Nick

Now that's classy!!!

Well said - others should take note.

A lot of time gets invested in discussion about warranty coverage (or not). If the tuners are confident that their offering is not going to cause problems, why don't they just undertake to cover any work that's rejected because of detection?

In light of the remoteness of it ever happening, I'm sure this could be insured against for a very modest amount. Perhaps customers would even be prepared to "opt in" for this coverage.

But if there was to be a charge, it'd want to be air-tight, not some dodgy policy with a zillion "outs" for the tuner & insurer.

Just a thought.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by shifterboy45

dont mean to butt in but......

BMW has changed the labor for the standard scope --
which was:
interrogate fault memory and reset CBS data..


it will no longer incorporate the fault interrogation of the DME..
it will now be used for CBS data reset only ....

may wanna double check your source ..

I'll bet you that my source is better than yours
Seriously though, I didn't post this to start a fight or to throw a punch towards the competition. However, the truth is that BMW NA is taking action to guard against unnecessary warranty claim. This is fact. If you think you will be able to go to the dealership with a piggy-back installed or the DME reflashed (even if toggled to a "stock" map) and not risk your warranty, you are kidding yourself. And any vendor suggesting that anything sort of a completely hardware or software removal is "good enough" to stay under the radar is guilty of wishful thinking. Pretty understandable at this stage of the game (3 years into production). And especially in light of BMW offering their own "competitive" tune.

Shiv

[Nick@aep]

The Stage 2 map is making some great power! They're making great progress on the file and it should be ready pretty soon here. I should be running it on my own car very shortly here after slapping an FMIC on for some testing. Stay tuned for a full writeup.

[rollyn2night]

cant wait to see what stage 2 brings to the table. hope its released soon though..

[Raflekt]

What about high altitude guys? For example I cant run my 135i AT with jb3 for too much time I have an extra oil cooler , Fmic and it doesnt matter the result is the same limp mode in 5 laps , each lap takes 2 mins.

My altitude its 8500 feet

[enrita]

Originally Posted by Raflekt

What about high altitude guys? For example I cant run my 135i AT with jb3 for too much time I have an extra oil cooler , Fmic and it doesnt matter the result is the same limp mode in 5 laps , each lap takes 2 mins.

My altitude its 8500 feet

why do you get a limp? temperature of oil, water? seems that has nothing to do with the tune in general.

[Darkcyd_Turbo]

Originally Posted by Austin@GIAC

Switching with a cable will depend on the level of encryption used on the CAN gateway. For the B5 S4, switching is done through K-line which carries no encryption. You will notice on 2.0T vehicles, we do not allow for switching with a vag-com as ross-tech encrypts their CAN gateway and we are unwilling to hack it. The same will hold true for the BT tool as we will not hack any encryption they might have. MSRP for our current handheld switcher is $150.00.

Being that this is a different make, I do not know if your current switcher will work with your BMW when the switching becomes available.

Regarding stage 2, we are making some big progress on it and I should have some information to release to you very soon.

thanks for the breakdown Austin!