Is Anyone Interested in a Cutch Pedal Stop For Their MT?

O-cha · 11-25-2009, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus99

Except that there are others, Eugene among them, who confirm it DOES work.

Did you click the link above I posted? Eugene has an E92 M3.

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Originally Posted by O-cha

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For everyones benefit: A clutch stop worth anything does not work with our car due to the CPS, if it is actually able to raise clutch travel far enough to be close to the engagement point then you will no longer be able to start the car because of the clutch position sensor.

Point of a clutch stop is to bring the travel very close to engagement point, the CPS sensor will not pickup until "miles" away from the engagement point by design. You might be able to limit travel slightly but it is nothing like what a real clutch stop does.

Mr. 5 · 11-25-2009, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by O-cha

Point of a clutch stop is to bring the travel very close to engagement point, the CPS sensor will not pickup until "miles" away from the engagement point by design. You might be able to limit travel slightly but it is nothing like what a real clutch stop does.

Have you done this?
It's a lot closer than you think.

themyst · 11-28-2009, 01:21 PM

Just finished installing the e92-lightning.com clutch stop on my 135i and verify no problems. No problems starting the car up, makes the car feel MUCH more drivable, and this might be the final ingredient into speeding up shift times, as I have an SSK and CDV delete. Slightly longer than '06-current Honda Civic Si clutch travel (which is a good thing) no grinding gears due to the clutch not being fully engaged (i've slammed the gears pretty hard as a test) I got sick of the wife bitching and moaning about the clutch travel being too long and impossible to drive smoothly in her heels or platforms so I gave this a shot.

Excellent mod, (wish it was cheaper than $20 + shipping, supply and demand I guess) would recommend it!

On a side note, does anyone know where to get the stock clutch stop? I tore mine up removing it, and I don't see it as an actual part on any of the BMW parts sites.

Lotus99 · 02-02-2010, 01:56 AM

So I finally got around to installing my E92 Lighting Clutch Stop. Didn't go as easy as I had hoped, and didn't manage to in the end. Tried for like over half an hour! The bloody "speed nut" wouldn't go in.

For those who have done it, can you tell me what trick you used? How much did you open it up to get it in? The problem was when I tried to squeeze it on (with pliers, as was recommended by them, b/c it was so hard to push on), it was not open enough. So I opened it up, and it went on, but then it was too open for the screw to catch the back part of it! And then it finally broke!

Here's a pic of how much open it was before it would go on. And below it is what it should look like installed.

PS What is that thing on the left called an "optical connector"? It had two wires going to it, and the end of it was just a square black cap visible from under the panel. No idea what it does. I pulled on it pretty hard at first to get it off, and hope I didn't break it, so I was going to see if there's any way to know if it's working or not. (3rd pic)
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Eugene-TAIWAN · 02-02-2010, 02:31 AM

Hey , I wish I could help but I got my shop to put it in for me.

as I am not a DIY type of person so I don't know. But I was standing right beside him and it took him about 15 mins. MAX

tom @ eas · 02-02-2010, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Lotus99

PS What is that thing on the left called an "optical connector"? It had two wires going to it, and the end of it was just a square black cap visible from under the panel. No idea what it does. I pulled on it pretty hard at first to get it off, and hope I didn't break it, so I was going to see if there's any way to know if it's working or not. (3rd pic)

That is a MOST fiber optic diagnostic port used for dealer programming.

Lotus99 · 02-02-2010, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by tom @ eas

That is a MOST fiber optic diagnostic port used for dealer programming.

Neat. Had never heard of it. So this is not the same as the OBDII port, I take it? Or it's replaced the old school port with pins? I thought the OBDII port was used to connect to the car for programming?

The wires are still nice and tight in their connector from what I can tell. So would there be a way to know in case I messed them up? Or the next firmware update I get at the dealer will be the test of it?

tom @ eas · 02-02-2010, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Lotus99

Neat. Had never heard of it. So this is not the same as the OBDII port, I take it? Or it's replaced the old school port with pins? I thought the OBDII port was used to connect to the car for programming?

The wires are still nice and tight in their connector from what I can tell. So would there be a way to know in case I messed them up? Or the next firmware update I get at the dealer will be the test of it?

OBD2 port is still there, MOST refers to other control modules within the system like iDrive, Sirius, CD Changers/iPod and Bluetooth (as well as others).

You should be fine, if the cap is removed, audio will drop.

Lotus99 · 02-02-2010, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by tom @ eas

You should be fine, if the cap is removed, audio will drop.

you mean if the cap in the panel I see from below is removed, some part of the audio system won't work? Like the CD player, USB stick functionality, etc?

Former_Boosted_IS · 02-02-2010, 06:53 AM

If you remove it, then you will get an SOS warning on the information display.

dtp3347 · 02-02-2010, 09:23 AM

Edit : didnt read the thread. If there is still an interest I will work on a DIY for a clutch stop for our cars. Ive made a few different kinds but mine seems to hold up pretty well and it was like 5 bucks worth of stuff from ACE Hardware lol

Lotus99 · 02-02-2010, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dtp3347

Edit : didnt read the thread. If there is still an interest I will work on a DIY for a clutch stop for our cars. Ive made a few different kinds but mine seems to hold up pretty well and it was like 5 bucks worth of stuff from ACE Hardware lol

Can you look up to my post #70. I tried installing one, but didn't manage b/c I couldn't get the "speed nut" to stay on. What did you use to keep it on? This is what the clutch stop I bought looks like, and it would screw into the speed nut.

JetBlackE46 · 08-20-2010, 02:09 AM

This one doesn't use clips or screws. It just pops right in

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/E9X-B...mZ230502700485

TheTwinz · 08-20-2010, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JetBlackE46

This one doesn't use clips or screws. It just pops right in

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/E9X-B...mZ230502700485

Interesting.. I'll bite the bullet and get one.. Judging from his previous auction comments, they work great..

328skidpad · 08-20-2010, 08:26 AM

I am interested

EastCoast335i · 08-20-2010, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheTwinz

Interesting.. I'll bite the bullet and get one.. Judging from his previous auction comments, they work great..

Just ordered mine...
I'll post a quick yes/no "it works" once installed...

Leroi · 08-20-2010, 04:09 PM

I had the ebay one for 2 weeks, works good. Took a couple days to get use to it, removes 3/4 inch of travel.

rominl · 08-20-2010, 08:45 PM

same here, i got the one from ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...STRK:MESELX:IT

and have had it on my car for a few weeks, works great and it's holding up great. maybe i should do a little review!

jcarlucci1 · 08-21-2010, 12:07 AM

I have this one also..works great, installed in less than 30 seconds.

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Originally Posted by JetBlackE46

This one doesn't use clips or screws. It just pops right in

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/E9X-B...mZ230502700485

prelude2perfect · 08-21-2010, 03:53 AM

Thanks guys, just ordered the ebay one. I'll post up my review on here after I get it. I can't wait as I have always complained about the engagment on this car

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11-28-2009, 01:21 PM	#69
themyst Major General 191 Rep 6,631 Posts Drives: '16 MK7 GTI Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NYC iTrader: (8)	Just finished installing the e92-lightning.com clutch stop on my 135i and verify no problems. No problems starting the car up, makes the car feel MUCH more drivable, and this might be the final ingredient into speeding up shift times, as I have an SSK and CDV delete. Slightly longer than '06-current Honda Civic Si clutch travel (which is a good thing) no grinding gears due to the clutch not being fully engaged (i've slammed the gears pretty hard as a test) I got sick of the wife bitching and moaning about the clutch travel being too long and impossible to drive smoothly in her heels or platforms so I gave this a shot. Excellent mod, (wish it was cheaper than $20 + shipping, supply and demand I guess) would recommend it! On a side note, does anyone know where to get the stock clutch stop? I tore mine up removing it, and I don't see it as an actual part on any of the BMW parts sites. __________________ E90 LCI N54 6AT
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02-02-2010, 01:56 AM	#70
Lotus99 Colonel 643 Rep 2,808 Posts Drives: 19 M2C & 18 X3 M40i Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Canada iTrader: (1)	So I finally got around to installing my E92 Lighting Clutch Stop. Didn't go as easy as I had hoped, and didn't manage to in the end. Tried for like over half an hour! The bloody "speed nut" wouldn't go in. For those who have done it, can you tell me what trick you used? How much did you open it up to get it in? The problem was when I tried to squeeze it on (with pliers, as was recommended by them, b/c it was so hard to push on), it was not open enough. So I opened it up, and it went on, but then it was too open for the screw to catch the back part of it! And then it finally broke! Here's a pic of how much open it was before it would go on. And below it is what it should look like installed. PS What is that thing on the left called an "optical connector"? It had two wires going to it, and the end of it was just a square black cap visible from under the panel. No idea what it does. I pulled on it pretty hard at first to get it off, and hope I didn't break it, so I was going to see if there's any way to know if it's working or not. (3rd pic) . . . Attached Images Last edited by Lotus99; 02-02-2010 at 02:54 AM..
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02-02-2010, 02:31 AM	#71
Eugene-TAIWAN Brigadier General 262 Rep 3,157 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Coupe Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Taiwan iTrader: (4)	Hey , I wish I could help but I got my shop to put it in for me. as I am not a DIY type of person so I don't know. But I was standing right beside him and it took him about 15 mins. MAX __________________ Past: Gintani stage3 M3, Cayman GTS present: Porsche 993RWB, 964RS America,996 cupcar, 964 turbo 3.6,Macan Turbo,997GT2,930 turbo,i3, MINI JCW
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02-02-2010, 06:53 AM	#76
Former_Boosted_IS Major General 318 Rep 5,175 Posts Drives: 4 Wheels Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Planet Earth! iTrader: (15)	If you remove it, then you will get an SOS warning on the information display.
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02-02-2010, 09:23 AM	#77
dtp3347 Lieutenant 57 Rep 488 Posts Drives: Silver E92 335i Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Alpharetta, Ga iTrader: (2)	Edit : didnt read the thread. If there is still an interest I will work on a DIY for a clutch stop for our cars. Ive made a few different kinds but mine seems to hold up pretty well and it was like 5 bucks worth of stuff from ACE Hardware lol
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08-20-2010, 02:09 AM	#79
JetBlackE46 Private First Class 20 Rep 106 Posts Drives: ///M Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (0)	This one doesn't use clips or screws. It just pops right in http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/E9X-B...mZ230502700485
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08-20-2010, 08:26 AM	#81
328skidpad Lieutenant 57 Rep 495 Posts Drives: 328xi e350 Z4M X3 M40 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Princeton NJ iTrader: (0)	yes I am interested
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08-20-2010, 04:09 PM	#83
Leroi Second Lieutenant 13 Rep 211 Posts Drives: 2007 335i TiAg MT Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA iTrader: (9) Garage List 2007 335i Coupe [9.00]	I had the ebay one for 2 weeks, works good. Took a couple days to get use to it, removes 3/4 inch of travel.
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08-20-2010, 08:45 PM	#84
rominl Second Lieutenant 17 Rep 276 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Orange County, CA iTrader: (0)	same here, i got the one from ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...STRK:MESELX:IT and have had it on my car for a few weeks, works great and it's holding up great. maybe i should do a little review! __________________
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08-21-2010, 03:53 AM	#86
prelude2perfect Captain 63 Rep 621 Posts Drives: 2013 M5 and 2015 535i Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Savannah, GA iTrader: (8)	Thanks guys, just ordered the ebay one. I'll post up my review on here after I get it. I can't wait as I have always complained about the engagment on this car
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