[SiKkBaSs]

Originally Posted by NFS

I'm planning on painting my car matt black and adding some additional bodywork to deflect radar.

I'd like to see someone outstealth that.

[beemerbird]

Originally Posted by lesfinnie

This is correct according to BMW salesmen, or so I was told when looking for a 335d All 335d have sports suspension

First link is E90 335d SE:

http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/pricesand...%3D%3D,00.html

Second link is E92 335d SE:

http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/pricesand...%3D%3D,00.html

Spot the difference under 'wheels and chassis'?

Welcome to the forum btw.

[Em135eye]

My brief 750i review:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...0i-409134.html

Guess which one is me...

Hotcoupe - sorry but if I liked you' I'd bother scanning the docs but I don't so I'm not bothering. You'll have to make do with the reviewlet.

Funny this - I have often read about and spoken to people who prefer the SE over the M Sport for general driving on real life roads - which is what most of us do. Not many of us spend every day on a racetrack. Yet the score is currently:

SE:



M Sport:



Best I don't offer to do any political campaigning.

[Hotcoupe]

Originally Posted by 335diesel

My brief 750i review:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...0i-409134.html

Guess which one is me...

Hotcoupe - sorry but if I liked you' I'd bother scanning the docs but I don't so I'm not bothering. You'll have to make do with the reviewlet.

Ah not so much a review direct for the Independent, but a comment on the website from 2006, thanks anyway

I once made a comment on the Telegraph website (can't remember what it was about now), but I did'nt make a point of telling everyone about it, hey ho.

I'm deeply wounded that you have taken a dislike to me,I'm going to struggle getting to sleep now

I see you are very popular over on Pistonheads too!

[JLR1969]

Originally Posted by NFS

No

I don't really get your focus on 'stealth' either.

I bought an msport because:

1. The msport steering wheel is fatter smaller and nicer to use.
2. The msport gearstick is shorter, chunkier and nicer to use.
3. The wheels are fatter - which means more grip - and staggered which means more neutral handling.
4. The sports seats have whizzy electric side bolsters that hold you in place when you are 'pressing on'.
5. The black headlining is lovely and cozy.
6. The m-sport suspension holds the car flatter while cornering.

None of these things are about posing. They are about enjoying the driving experience.

Which leaves me confused as to why an SE without idrive would be somehow considered 'cooler'?

110% agree. Love the black headlining too.

[dxb335d]

Fuck me. 335d SE coupe has exactly same M sport suspension as M sport 335

[toxicnerve]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

Fuck me. 335d SE coupe has exactly same M sport suspension as M sport 335

He speaks the truth...

It ONLY applies to the 335d/i E92 though. All other E9x models have different suspension between the two variants.

[JLR1969]

Well this thread kept me entertained from start to finish.

It was very funny though.....335diesel strikes again.

PS. Have you seen my plasticky stick on spoiler its from an M3 dont you know, makes it look faster but its not, its still just a diesel with a 2 litre engine

[pjs]

Originally Posted by JLR1969

Well this thread kept me entertained from start to finish.

It was very funny though.....335diesel strikes again.

PS. Have you seen my plasticky stick on spoiler its from an M3 dont you know, makes it look faster but its not, its still just a diesel with a 2 litre engine

i'm hoping its only half way through!

[beemerbird]

Originally Posted by toxicnerve

He speaks the truth...

It ONLY applies to the 335d/i E92 though. All other E9x models have different suspension between the two variants.

Fu*k me, how many times have I said this on this friggin thread.

[JLR1969]

Originally Posted by beemerbird

Fu*k me, how many times have I said this on this friggin thread.

Yes but your a girl so it doesnt count

[Tunna_uk]

I wanted a M3 Saloon. But I am so happy with what I can afford.
Its a MSPORT

lol

[beemerbird]

Originally Posted by JLR1969

Yes but your a girl so it doesnt count

I know............no willie to wave

I'm a woman actually 'little tootsies'.

[Sir_Pigley]

Originally Posted by 335diesel

Funny this - I have often read about and spoken to people who prefer the SE over the M Sport for general driving on real life roads - which is what most of us do. Not many of us spend every day on a racetrack. Yet the score is currently:

SE:



M Sport:



Best I don't offer to do any political campaigning.

I'm not sure people are necessary universally expressing preference for one of the other. I think the reality is that most are taking exception to the rather supercilious and dismissive tone of many of your posts, and are taking to to task about it.

[NFS]

Originally Posted by beemerbird

Fu*k me, how many times have I said this on this friggin thread.

5 times!



I think some people may still not be clear though. Perhaps you need to explain again.

[toxicnerve]

Originally Posted by beemerbird

Fu*k me, how many times have I said this on this friggin thread.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to wind you up!

[beemerbird]

Originally Posted by NFS

5 times!



I think some people may still not be clear though. Perhaps you need to explain again.

Got RSI now Simon..........but not quite at the point of loosing the will to live lol.

Originally Posted by toxicnerve

Sorry, I wasn't trying to wind you up!

I know you weren't, I was mucking about.

I suggest we all go on mass test drives of M sport and SE variants.

Edit: Wonder what the S5 suspension is...........SE or M sport or somewhere in the middle.

[JLR1969]

Originally Posted by beemerbird

I know............no willie to wave

I'm a woman actually 'little tootsies'.

Of course how silly of me. You know what they say little feet little willy, oh shit thats not good is it.

[SiKkBaSs]

Fuc* this thread. Let's all just save and buy a top spec M3









/thread




























/life and career

[mjh93sa]

Started reading the thread, got bored half way through and forgot what started it by the end.

The SE / MSport debate has been done before http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101104

I've said all that I am going to in that review of an SE against an MSport E91330d.

[- Paul -]

335diesel - are you really trying to annoy/irk all on here aswell as on pistonheads?

Or am I missing something?

[xenon]

I think we've concluded that nobody is daft enough to suggest that the M-Sport is quicker than its equivalent SE model, although in fairness nobody said that it was - 335diesel seemed to get it into his head that was being suggested.

The M-Sport suspension may offer something to the discerning driver but in reality (on UK roads) it's a bit crashy. However, the stealthmobile has it so it's a good thing.

The M-Sport is simply styling and consequently some will like and some won't. However getting down to two specifics, I find it impossible to comprehend how the SE steering wheel can be preferred to the lovely, tactile M-Sport wheel or how the sports seats with the inflatable bolsters can be dismissed.

I've always had the M-Sport wheel, even on previous SEs that I've owned. I can't see the rim being too thick unless you have the hands of an 8 year-old.

Ultimately it's choice and opinion: if you want the ultimate stealthy load-lugger, you know what to spec. Just don't get sucked in by any daft marketing hype, OK?