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[Mark Fatlace]

lol..

I've run 235/40 on a 10.5 wheel while racing/drifting numerous times in my driftcar at high speeds at buttonwillow and thunderhill. If you look at all the top time attack cars around the world, they are somewhat stretched to some degree. I would have to say, racing/drifting is the real test versus someone saying it doesnt work without even trying it.

its not only style in my book. i use it on the track and its proven so doing it on the street is no problem at all.

Originally Posted by vgr02

hella flush = really stupid. Rims are not designed for tyres to be mounted like that. I'm sure your insurance company would wipe you if you had an accident where the tyre blew out. Hell ... if I was your insurrance company I'd wipe you just for thinking that was a good idea.

[330greaser]

Originally Posted by Derek Zoolander

You're wrong and ignorant with your logic.

Huh? English bro.

[330greaser]

Originally Posted by Derek Zoolander

Tire stretching didn't originate with a mistake, and wheel offset has no effect on it. If I was you, I wouldn't be shooting my mouth off if I didn't know what I was talking about.

It has everything to do with offset.

[330greaser]

Originally Posted by Derek Zoolander

I don't care about your opinion on it, I was just letting you know you were wrong about the facts.

I believe that this is ALL about opinion.

[330greaser]

Originally Posted by Derek Zoolander

The law is against tire tread extending past the fenders (not the wheel), hence the need to stretch to meet this requirement.
Wheel width and tire size causes stretch. Offset is independent of this. Lower offset allows for wider lip.

Try arguing that to an officer of the law.

[330greaser]

Originally Posted by Derek Zoolander

No. Stretched tires still hold as strong of a bead as regular sizes.
I don't understand your second question.

There is a reason tire manufacturers make recommendation for wheel width. Anything smaller or larger posses a safety risk that no manufacturer would recommend.

[330greaser]

Originally Posted by Derek Zoolander

Different strokes for different folks. Not everyone is into going fast.
I actually slammed my old GTI so I would stop speeding

Funniest thing you've said so far.

[Derek Zoolander]

You didn't have to make a new post for each quote...

Originally Posted by 330greaser

Huh? English bro.

Seriously? There is nothing wrong with that sentence.

Originally Posted by 330greaser

It has everything to do with offset.

Tire stretch is independent of offset. It's based on width. HellaFlish is everything to do with offset.

Originally Posted by 330greaser

I believe that this is ALL about opinion.

Umm, the facts aren't an opinion.

Originally Posted by 330greaser

Try arguing that to an officer of the law.

People have. They win. The law states nothing about the wheel extending past the fender, only the tire tread.

Originally Posted by 330greaser

There is a reason tire manufacturers make recommendation for wheel width. Anything smaller or larger posses a safety risk that no manufacturer would recommend.

Of course they need to list recommended specs and won't warranty it, but if they bead is set and takes the same amount of pressure to pop it, then it's no different in that respect.

[uberschnell]

Originally Posted by lonestar22

everyone on this fender is play it safe and old school. hellaflush is too new school for these guys.

look around, everyone on this forum has the same mods. and changing the color of your angel eyes is considered cool here

Then they definitely aint ready for the next next level in wheel mods


"hellaoak"

[redfred18t]

Originally Posted by Derek Zoolander

People have. They win. The law states nothing about the wheel extending past the fender, only the tire tread.

The law in mass is that any part of the tire including the sidewall cant stick out past the fender.. I dont know how the other states are, but if my memory serves me correctly, it originated in germany where that is the law (where the tread must be contained within the fender, not the entire tire)

[ar design]

Originally Posted by MteK

Then they definitely aint ready for the next next level in wheel mods


"hellaoak"

[Derek Zoolander]

Originally Posted by redfred18t

The law in mass is that any part of the tire including the sidewall cant stick out past the fender.. I dont know how the other states are, but if my memory serves me correctly, it originated in germany where that is the law (where the tread must be contained within the fender, not the entire tire)

Shh, you're supposed to be on my side.

[330greaser]

Originally Posted by Derek Zoolander

You didn't have to make a new post for each quote...

Seriously? There is nothing wrong with that sentence.

Tire stretch is independent of offset. It's based on width. HellaFlish is everything to do with offset.

Umm, the facts aren't an opinion.

People have. They win. The law states nothing about the wheel extending past the fender, only the tire tread.

Of course they need to list recommended specs and won't warranty it, but if they bead is set and takes the same amount of pressure to pop it, then it's no different in that respect.

In order:

Its impossible be 'ignorant with logic'. You either posses logic or you don't.

Your opinion is that it looks good and its safe. My opinion says it isn't either.

You will still get the ticket and have to go to court. Period. AND, you risk getting in front of a judge that isn't so lenient.

If the bead is set firmly against the lip of the rim, then it can withstand side impact. You stretched the sidewall to they point that is distorted way outside of spec. I'm not an engineer, but the people who designed the tires are. I'm going to trust their opinion.

[Derek Zoolander]

I'm an engineer. Your logic is wrong. If you don't like it, go ahead and state your opinion, but there's no need to argue the physics of it. The success rate far outweighs the rate of failure in this application.

[330greaser]

Originally Posted by Derek Zoolander

I'm an engineer. Your logic is wrong. If you don't like it, go ahead and state your opinion, but there's no need to argue the physics of it. The success rate far outweighs the rate of failure in this application.

Do you have stats to back up your claim, or is it just opinion?

[Flea7]

Originally Posted by Derek Zoolander

I'm an engineer. Your logic is wrong. If you don't like it, go ahead and state your opinion, but there's no need to argue the physics of it. The success rate far outweighs the rate of failure in this application.

You're an engineer and you think this is how the tires and wheels are engineered to function???...you serious???
This is stupid and NOT safe. I don't think tires are "engineered" to be stretched and rode on it's sidewall but most of all......
It's Fu*kin' Ugly!!!!.......oh, in my opinion.

[Dirnegrey]

Originally Posted by Flea7

You're an engineer and you think this is how the tires and wheels are engineered to function???...you serious???
This is stupid and NOT safe. I don't think tires are "engineered" to be stretched and rode on it's sidewall but most of all......
It's Fu*kin' Ugly!!!!.......oh, in my opinion.

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[Minefield]

Originally Posted by Derek Zoolander

I'm an engineer. Your logic is wrong. If you don't like it, go ahead and state your opinion, but there's no need to argue the physics of it. The success rate far outweighs the rate of failure in this application.

Originally Posted by 330greaser

Do you have stats to back up your claim, or is it just opinion?

Engineers...

Refer to the Bay Bridge for their logic and calculations...or lack of.

[GREGS335]

Can anyone honestly say that VW looks good?? Cmon!!

[200Duece]

this jetta looks great. I would've shaved and filled the door handles but, that's just me.

[lonestar22]

so the conclusion is, no one on e90 post likes hellaflush cars. minus 2 or 3 people. every hellaflush car is considered "vwvortex" cars and should be banned from the road.

[200Duece]

It's an "auto fashion". Every one has there own style and likes. I don't go around bashing all the posers out there that put wheel copies on there BMW because they are all too cheap to buy OEM or Orginal Manufacturers products. They just like the look or follow a fashion trend.