Thought of a way to turn on JUST the Angel Eyes on E90

calvino · 10-29-2006, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jayz4

Super stoked to see the progress on this! The PIAA look BLAZING! I too am waiting on LUX 2.0. Better happen soon or I'll hafta order the PIAA. Calvino, what are the specs on your PIAA? Color?

YOU GUYS ROCK!

they are 6500K here is were I got them and I love them they are really bright!

http://www.car-gym.com/catalog/produ...roducts_id=301

calvino · 10-29-2006, 12:40 AM

matt man we are working together from the other side of the states you are in CA and I'm in FL

dude you don't wnt take a vacations and come here ?? you can see the alligators!!!

and Mickey Mouse

///Matt · 10-29-2006, 12:28 PM

Been to Florida, thanks. In my opinion, it's a better place to be from than to be. Too much humidity. I did like aligator tail though, tasty.

I'm going to play with my halo's in a few hours, I'll talke some shitty pics, and make a little write up if I accomplish anything interesting.
Matt

///Matt · 10-29-2006, 01:23 PM

well, off I go. Here's hoping I can make this shit work! lol

///Matt · 10-29-2006, 04:24 PM

I give up.

I'm not screwing with this anymore, I fear for my car now.

I got the halo wired into a power source which is only hot (turned on) when the car is on. I got an error message. And then my engine started to fluctuate the idle. so I stepped on the brake, and my car revved. I stepped on the brake again to be sure, and everytime I touched the brake, the car revved up about 1k rpm.

And that's just from using voltage from somewhere I shouldn't have.

I'm not trying to rewire the halo's anymore. not worth it.

Matt

///Matt · 10-29-2006, 04:29 PM

Hey, update. Turns out the lights weren't what caused the crazy brake rev.

I just managed to leave the air flow sensor unplugged.

Man I rule.

I still give up.

calvino · 10-29-2006, 04:59 PM

you are giving up???

that sucks matt

I was counting on you man

///Matt · 10-29-2006, 06:05 PM

Too bad, bro. I want to make it work too, y'know, but I'm not going to fuck up my car just to have some little light rings on during the day. fuck that.

You want to make them work? attach the halo's wire to a permanent battery voltage, and install a switch. It'll work without problems, but you'll still have an error.

I'm not going to try to make this thing work in conjuction with the car's computers. they're too smart, and too sensitive.

jayz4 · 10-29-2006, 09:37 PM

Dam! BMW wins again. You guys are very brave for experimenting with your cars. MUCH PROPS! We wouldn't have any of the cool mods if it weren't for you guys! Friggin Angel Eyes!!!!!!!! Must be frustrating.

calvino · 10-29-2006, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jayz4

Dam! BMW wins again. You guys are very brave for experimenting with your cars. MUCH PROPS! We wouldn't have any of the cool mods if it weren't for you guys! Friggin Angel Eyes!!!!!!!! Must be frustrating.

who says that BMW wins??? I havent give up

I'm not going down with out a fight I think I found a possible solution

I add a positive wire to my halo lights and connect it to a little switch so I can turn them off and on . went you turn on the car it check for any damage buld it takes like 10 seconds after that I turn on the halos and I did not get any errors so I can drive with the angels lights only but went the night comes and the sensor turn on the headlights it shows up a error I turn my little switch off and the error went off.

see my illustration

now I don't have to do all of that steps if someone can tell me the power consumition of the halos lights so I can try to add a resistor to the OEM cable and add the new + cable to any source that comes on went the car starts :rocks: and that way I will have my halos only on all the time

///Matt · 10-30-2006, 12:48 AM

You have fun with that.

I'm going to find out if I can do the hardcore programming fix to kill the turn signals, but I doubt it will work.

calvino · 10-30-2006, 01:32 AM

btw matt do you know the power consumition of the halos ?? or do you know what type of resistors I can get? thanks man

I think is going to be really hard to turn off te signals by software

///Matt · 10-30-2006, 10:01 AM

I'm looking into the software today. The power consumpton of the halo's can be measured with an ampmeter, but YOU want the resistance, which is measured with an Ohmmeter.

Matt

jayz4 · 10-30-2006, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by calvino

they are 6500K here is were I got them and I love them they are really bright!

http://www.car-gym.com/catalog/produ...roducts_id=301

Can you post pics of the PIAA's in the daytime? From the front and at an angle would be great!!!

calvino · 10-30-2006, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ///Matt

I'm looking into the software today. The power consumpton of the halo's can be measured with an ampmeter, but YOU want the resistance, which is measured with an Ohmmeter.

Matt

hey matt I got a metter at radio shack but is not mesuaring the resistance

I put it in OHM mode but is not doing anything maybe is conneced wrong ? put the + cable to the positive of the halo and the negative to the negative of the halo and is not working it does not give me a messure

calvino · 10-30-2006, 05:41 PM

mevermind I mesure the voltage that is 12 and the current is 9.97 and I use a ohm calculator http://www.csgnetwork.com/ohmslaw2.html and it gave me rsistence = 1.2036108324974923

///Matt · 10-30-2006, 05:54 PM

Cal, a meter can be very misleading if you're not using it right... What pins did you measure voltage from? and where/how did you get 9.97 amperes of current?

calvino · 10-30-2006, 06:03 PM

ok so I got a digital metter at I put it to DCV mode and I got 12V then to messure the currents it says on the instructions " you must brake the circuit and connect the red probe and the black probe to two circuit connection" so I connect the red probe to the green cable and the black probe to the end of the halo light ( were you suppost to connect the green cable) and it gave me 10 I went to the website to calculate the OHM's and I imput 12V 10Current and it gave me 1.22 Calculated Resistance so what does that means that I need a 1.22 resistor so I can connect the new power cable to the halos and don't get a error?

///Matt · 10-30-2006, 06:27 PM

I have trouble beleiving that bulb draws 10a, are you sure it wasn't 1.0? or .997 ?

Yes, you would need a 1.22 ohm resistor, but I also don't beleive that the bulb has that low of a resistance, since I don't think your amp measurements are right.

It'll probably be more like a 12 ohm resistor.

But here's the thing... if you're going to wire a resistor into the circuit, you'll need to run a NEW ground for the halo's, because it checks for voltage on the ground side, too. Problem with that is.... It's all a common ground! I don't think you'll be able to not get an error this way, but try all you like!

calvino · 10-30-2006, 06:45 PM

I was also thinking that was I was worng but I mesuared and tha's what it says 9.97 and the digital move from range (9.97 to 10) and the voltage is 12 can it be because is a LED halo and not the OEM one?

man this is hard but I have see people getting away with the errors like RikuE90 that add LED to his lincence plate and also some members here as been able to add HID foglights also adding some type of resistor so why it does not work in the Halo lights case ?

///Matt · 10-30-2006, 07:01 PM

oh, I forgot you have PIAA. Ok, well, if the PIAA resistance is 1.2 ohms (and I know why you couldn't measure it, too) that's different. Yeah, find a 1.2 ohm resistor at radio shack or something. You'll probably have to get a few and connect them in series to make the right resistance.

Don't be surprised if you still have an error though. This system is very sensitive and very redundant (checks everything in two places!)

Also, you couldn't measure the halo resistance because your meter does not have a strong enough voltage. The way a meter checks ohms is that supplies a set voltage through the red lead, and measures what comes back on the black lead.

PIAA is LED, or Light Emitting Diode. A Diode ONLY allows current flow in one direction, and ABOVE A MINIMUM VOLTAGE, in this case probably 9 volts or so. your meter isn't putting out more than 6v, so it never made it THROUGH the diode, to be measured on the other side.

Matt

calvino · 10-30-2006, 08:46 PM

no Matt forget it

it did not work :mad: I went to radioshack and got the resistors the error shows up

, and like you said it the car use a common ground so it does not matter if you put a resistor or not the error will show up the only solution was the one that I mention above the little switch that let you turn them on during daytime and does not shows a error as long as the headlights don't turn on went they turn on you just flip the switch off = no errors.
that's the only easy way to do it with out the need of programing the car or anything , I will install the switch tomorrow so I have the option of turning my halos only went I want to.

however matt thanks for the help, you were the one that gave me the idea to do it :rocks:

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calvino Lieutenant Colonel 324 Rep 1,928 Posts Drives: had e90, 330i mystic blue Join Date: May 2006 Location: Weston,Florida iTrader: (4) Garage List 2006 e90 330i [0.00]	matt man we are working together from the other side of the states you are in CA and I'm in FL dude you don't wnt take a vacations and come here ?? you can see the alligators!!! and Mickey Mouse __________________ E90 Mytic Blue 330i 07-20-2006. 05-17-2011 Doesn't the idea of making nature against the law seem to you a bit . . . unnatural? Support NORML
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///Matt United States Marine 347 Rep 2,748 Posts Drives: 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (8) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	Been to Florida, thanks. In my opinion, it's a better place to be from than to be. Too much humidity. I did like aligator tail though, tasty. I'm going to play with my halo's in a few hours, I'll talke some shitty pics, and make a little write up if I accomplish anything interesting. Matt Last edited by ///Matt; 10-29-2006 at 01:23 PM..
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///Matt United States Marine 347 Rep 2,748 Posts Drives: 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (8) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	well, off I go. Here's hoping I can make this shit work! lol
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///Matt United States Marine 347 Rep 2,748 Posts Drives: 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (8) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	I give up. I'm not screwing with this anymore, I fear for my car now. I got the halo wired into a power source which is only hot (turned on) when the car is on. I got an error message. And then my engine started to fluctuate the idle. so I stepped on the brake, and my car revved. I stepped on the brake again to be sure, and everytime I touched the brake, the car revved up about 1k rpm. And that's just from using voltage from somewhere I shouldn't have. I'm not trying to rewire the halo's anymore. not worth it. Matt
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///Matt United States Marine 347 Rep 2,748 Posts Drives: 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (8) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	Hey, update. Turns out the lights weren't what caused the crazy brake rev. I just managed to leave the air flow sensor unplugged. Man I rule. I still give up.
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calvino Lieutenant Colonel 324 Rep 1,928 Posts Drives: had e90, 330i mystic blue Join Date: May 2006 Location: Weston,Florida iTrader: (4) Garage List 2006 e90 330i [0.00]	you are giving up??? that sucks matt I was counting on you man __________________ E90 Mytic Blue 330i 07-20-2006. 05-17-2011 Doesn't the idea of making nature against the law seem to you a bit . . . unnatural? Support NORML Last edited by calvino; 10-29-2006 at 05:22 PM..
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///Matt United States Marine 347 Rep 2,748 Posts Drives: 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (8) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	Too bad, bro. I want to make it work too, y'know, but I'm not going to fuck up my car just to have some little light rings on during the day. fuck that. You want to make them work? attach the halo's wire to a permanent battery voltage, and install a switch. It'll work without problems, but you'll still have an error. I'm not going to try to make this thing work in conjuction with the car's computers. they're too smart, and too sensitive.
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jayz4 Private 4 Rep 84 Posts Drives: '07 335i Sedan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: California iTrader: (0)	Dam! BMW wins again. You guys are very brave for experimenting with your cars. MUCH PROPS! We wouldn't have any of the cool mods if it weren't for you guys! Friggin Angel Eyes!!!!!!!! Must be frustrating. __________________
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10-30-2006, 12:48 AM	#77
///Matt United States Marine 347 Rep 2,748 Posts Drives: 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (8) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	You have fun with that. I'm going to find out if I can do the hardcore programming fix to kill the turn signals, but I doubt it will work.
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calvino Lieutenant Colonel 324 Rep 1,928 Posts Drives: had e90, 330i mystic blue Join Date: May 2006 Location: Weston,Florida iTrader: (4) Garage List 2006 e90 330i [0.00]	btw matt do you know the power consumition of the halos ?? or do you know what type of resistors I can get? thanks man I think is going to be really hard to turn off te signals by software __________________ E90 Mytic Blue 330i 07-20-2006. 05-17-2011 Doesn't the idea of making nature against the law seem to you a bit . . . unnatural? Support NORML
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10-30-2006, 10:01 AM	#79
///Matt United States Marine 347 Rep 2,748 Posts Drives: 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (8) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	I'm looking into the software today. The power consumpton of the halo's can be measured with an ampmeter, but YOU want the resistance, which is measured with an Ohmmeter. Matt
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calvino Lieutenant Colonel 324 Rep 1,928 Posts Drives: had e90, 330i mystic blue Join Date: May 2006 Location: Weston,Florida iTrader: (4) Garage List 2006 e90 330i [0.00]	mevermind I mesure the voltage that is 12 and the current is 9.97 and I use a ohm calculator http://www.csgnetwork.com/ohmslaw2.html and it gave me rsistence = 1.2036108324974923 __________________ E90 Mytic Blue 330i 07-20-2006. 05-17-2011 Doesn't the idea of making nature against the law seem to you a bit . . . unnatural? Support NORML
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10-30-2006, 05:54 PM	#83
///Matt United States Marine 347 Rep 2,748 Posts Drives: 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (8) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	Cal, a meter can be very misleading if you're not using it right... What pins did you measure voltage from? and where/how did you get 9.97 amperes of current?
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calvino Lieutenant Colonel 324 Rep 1,928 Posts Drives: had e90, 330i mystic blue Join Date: May 2006 Location: Weston,Florida iTrader: (4) Garage List 2006 e90 330i [0.00]	ok so I got a digital metter at I put it to DCV mode and I got 12V then to messure the currents it says on the instructions " you must brake the circuit and connect the red probe and the black probe to two circuit connection" so I connect the red probe to the green cable and the black probe to the end of the halo light ( were you suppost to connect the green cable) and it gave me 10 I went to the website to calculate the OHM's and I imput 12V 10Current and it gave me 1.22 Calculated Resistance so what does that means that I need a 1.22 resistor so I can connect the new power cable to the halos and don't get a error? __________________ E90 Mytic Blue 330i 07-20-2006. 05-17-2011 Doesn't the idea of making nature against the law seem to you a bit . . . unnatural? Support NORML
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10-30-2006, 06:27 PM	#85
///Matt United States Marine 347 Rep 2,748 Posts Drives: 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (8) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	I have trouble beleiving that bulb draws 10a, are you sure it wasn't 1.0? or .997 ? Yes, you would need a 1.22 ohm resistor, but I also don't beleive that the bulb has that low of a resistance, since I don't think your amp measurements are right. It'll probably be more like a 12 ohm resistor. But here's the thing... if you're going to wire a resistor into the circuit, you'll need to run a NEW ground for the halo's, because it checks for voltage on the ground side, too. Problem with that is.... It's all a common ground! I don't think you'll be able to not get an error this way, but try all you like!
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calvino Lieutenant Colonel 324 Rep 1,928 Posts Drives: had e90, 330i mystic blue Join Date: May 2006 Location: Weston,Florida iTrader: (4) Garage List 2006 e90 330i [0.00]	I was also thinking that was I was worng but I mesuared and tha's what it says 9.97 and the digital move from range (9.97 to 10) and the voltage is 12 can it be because is a LED halo and not the OEM one? man this is hard but I have see people getting away with the errors like RikuE90 that add LED to his lincence plate and also some members here as been able to add HID foglights also adding some type of resistor so why it does not work in the Halo lights case ? __________________ E90 Mytic Blue 330i 07-20-2006. 05-17-2011 Doesn't the idea of making nature against the law seem to you a bit . . . unnatural? Support NORML
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10-30-2006, 07:01 PM	#87
///Matt United States Marine 347 Rep 2,748 Posts Drives: 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (8) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	oh, I forgot you have PIAA. Ok, well, if the PIAA resistance is 1.2 ohms (and I know why you couldn't measure it, too) that's different. Yeah, find a 1.2 ohm resistor at radio shack or something. You'll probably have to get a few and connect them in series to make the right resistance. Don't be surprised if you still have an error though. This system is very sensitive and very redundant (checks everything in two places!) Also, you couldn't measure the halo resistance because your meter does not have a strong enough voltage. The way a meter checks ohms is that supplies a set voltage through the red lead, and measures what comes back on the black lead. PIAA is LED, or Light Emitting Diode. A Diode ONLY allows current flow in one direction, and ABOVE A MINIMUM VOLTAGE, in this case probably 9 volts or so. your meter isn't putting out more than 6v, so it never made it THROUGH the diode, to be measured on the other side. Matt
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10-30-2006, 08:46 PM	#88
calvino Lieutenant Colonel 324 Rep 1,928 Posts Drives: had e90, 330i mystic blue Join Date: May 2006 Location: Weston,Florida iTrader: (4) Garage List 2006 e90 330i [0.00]	no Matt forget it it did not work :mad: I went to radioshack and got the resistors the error shows up , and like you said it the car use a common ground so it does not matter if you put a resistor or not the error will show up the only solution was the one that I mention above the little switch that let you turn them on during daytime and does not shows a error as long as the headlights don't turn on went they turn on you just flip the switch off = no errors. that's the only easy way to do it with out the need of programing the car or anything , I will install the switch tomorrow so I have the option of turning my halos only went I want to. however matt thanks for the help, you were the one that gave me the idea to do it :rocks: __________________ E90 Mytic Blue 330i 07-20-2006. 05-17-2011 Doesn't the idea of making nature against the law seem to you a bit . . . unnatural? Support NORML
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