Procede v4 CANbus love (pre-Beta maps/firmware available for private release)

Renus · 03-26-2010, 05:48 PM

Good job Shiv, your jobs have made me think I have paid for what is worth for my money ^ ^

joec500 · 03-26-2010, 06:30 PM

Maps feel good so far....

Ironring Racing · 03-26-2010, 06:32 PM

Shiv,

For the wiring mods, I've currently got my V4 out as it was just in for oil change, software update and HPFP replacement.

Could you PLEASE post the wiring mods as soon as possible so I could get the wiring modified before I reinstall? Ordered your meth kit, but they're waiting on parts to complete the next batch.

Also, will the new batch of meth kit elbow's include a second injection point (or 3rd) for N2O (assuming it's a good injection point, I've never run N2O before)?

Thanks Shiv.

OpenFlash · 03-26-2010, 06:47 PM

I wont be able to post a wiring update until next week. Sorry.. out of time. And, upon request, we can add another bung to the meth elbow. It's not going to be a standard change since only a small minority of meth users will run nitrous as well.

Shiv

cn555ic · 03-26-2010, 07:30 PM

I wouldn't be too sure of that Shiv....It seems as though alot of people will be doing meth if you indeed have the system running at its safest levels that you trust! When you trust it, I for one feel very comfortable with the mod....When running nitrous, I see alot of people purge before using the nitrous...Do you have a purge hooked up to your nitrous kit??

scalbert · 03-26-2010, 07:55 PM

Here is an interesting dichotomy. With the seemingly somewhat safe use of nitrous and the easier installation as opposed to upgraded turbos; will this be the next step approach to power adders on this platform. Most other platforms opt for larger turbos as the choice. But could nitrous be the accepted next step on the N54 due to the easier installation and the lower entry cost?

Just food for thought.

jpsimon · 03-26-2010, 07:58 PM

turbos first! I don't want a bunch of bottles in my trunk. I need that space

kenneth · 03-26-2010, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by scalbert

Here is an interesting dichotomy. With the seemingly somewhat safe use of nitrous and the easier installation as opposed to upgraded turbos; will this be the next step approach to power adders on this platform. Most other platforms opt for larger turbos as the choice. But could nitrous be the accepted next step on the N54 due to the easier installation and the lower entry cost?

Just food for thought.

You think too much, just do them....both

cn555ic · 03-26-2010, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

turbos first! I don't want a bunch of bottles in my trunk. I need that space

LOL...your right BOTTLES are for babies!

scalbert · 03-26-2010, 08:03 PM

I would agree and would be my preference (I want to try and swap turbos on stands in my garage) yes, masochist.

But I wouldn't be suprised to see a general shift on this patform. This is largely due to the straight line speed desires which seem prominent here. Obviously a road course is not a place for nitrous. But few seem to interest for that.

scalbert · 03-26-2010, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kenneth

just do them....both

Isn't that what Tiger Woods said.

kenneth · 03-26-2010, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by scalbert

Isn't that what Tiger Woods said.

J/K, I personally won't be doing neither meth, nor nitrous, I need the car to be mildly tuned for consistency on track.....

But you're right, we seem to be at the beginning of a new direction, which is made possible with thoughtful and safe implementation of the Procede. Having said that, this is also where things might get dicey if some tuners approach the safety issue differently. The potential for disaster is very real.

zsapphire7 · 03-26-2010, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kenneth

J/K, I personally won't be doing neither meth, nor nitrous, I need the car to be mildly tuned for consistency on track.....

But you're right, we seem to be at the beginning of a new direction, which is made possible with thoughtful and safe implementation of the Procede. Having said that, this is also where things might get dicey if some tuners approach the safety issue differently. The potential for disaster is very real.

Wouldnt meth make your car more consistant by keeping IATs consistantly low? Without proper cooling, your car will pull harder at first then less later on the track...

scalbert · 03-26-2010, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by zsapphire7

Wouldnt meth make your car more consistant by keeping IATs consistantly low? Without proper cooling, your car will pull harder at first then less later on the track...

You would probably blow through a tank within ten minutes on a course. If it is a 20 - 30 minute session, you are hosed.

kenneth · 03-26-2010, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsapphire7

Wouldnt meth make your car more consistant by keeping IATs consistantly low? Without proper cooling, your car will pull harder at first then less later on the track...

Quote:

Originally Posted by scalbert

You would probably blow through a tank within ten minutes on a course. If it is a 20 - 30 minute session, you are hosed.

True, without proper cooling tracking can be very frustrating and you will be going slower at the end of each session and power delivery inconsistent. And as Scalbert pointed out, 30 minute sessions would be too long for spraying meth.

Upgraded IC and additional OC helps in this regard.

cocoturkey · 03-26-2010, 11:00 PM

hi shiv, i got your e-mail and i just can't wait to upload those map and firmware onto my car... just one quick question.

do i need to do THIS before I use the new map and firmware?

p.s. is the meth kit working with this new version of map and firmware?

OpenFlash · 03-26-2010, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cocoturkey

hi shiv, i got your e-mail and i just can't wait to upload those map and firmware onto my car... just one quick question.

do i need to do THIS before I use the new map and firmware?

Nope. You don't have to just yet. But by the next update (next week), you will want to.

Quote:

p.s. is the meth kit working with this new version of map and firmware?

It is there but it is not yet active. That comes next week.

Shiv

adrean8j · 03-27-2010, 02:11 AM

Shiv,

Can you do us E82 guys a flavor? Post stuff like this over there too(@ 1addicts)? Half of the time I don't even know you have updated maps, firmware, etc, etc.....Tryin' to rep. the ProCede over E82 land and its hard being a minority in a land full of Juicy Juice

.....

Parachute>Seatbelts · 03-27-2010, 03:21 AM

Is the v4 user software to be used with the pre-beta maps?

zsapphire7 · 03-27-2010, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scalbert

You would probably blow through a tank within ten minutes on a course. If it is a 20 - 30 minute session, you are hosed.

Wow, is this true shiv? i was hoping a tank would last longer than that for a 20-30 min session......

scottp999 · 03-27-2010, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by zsapphire7

Wow, is this true shiv? i was hoping a tank would last longer than that for a 20-30 min session......

You can always get a 2-2.5 gallon tank. Mount it in the center of the trunk and put the pump below it like Former_Boosted has his.

ehssan_alkhiyami · 03-27-2010, 08:22 AM

Ooops .. I missed the update ,, the time difference between Dubai and you guys in US is the reason ..

Shiv , let me know if I still have the chance to have a copy by email ,,,

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Ironring Racing N54 FTW! 25 Rep 389 Posts Drives: BMW 335i 6MT Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Calgary, Canada iTrader: (3)	Shiv, For the wiring mods, I've currently got my V4 out as it was just in for oil change, software update and HPFP replacement. Could you PLEASE post the wiring mods as soon as possible so I could get the wiring modified before I reinstall? Ordered your meth kit, but they're waiting on parts to complete the next batch. Also, will the new batch of meth kit elbow's include a second injection point (or 3rd) for N2O (assuming it's a good injection point, I've never run N2O before)? Thanks Shiv.
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cn555ic 460 Rep 18,331 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: US iTrader: (6)	I wouldn't be too sure of that Shiv....It seems as though alot of people will be doing meth if you indeed have the system running at its safest levels that you trust! When you trust it, I for one feel very comfortable with the mod....When running nitrous, I see alot of people purge before using the nitrous...Do you have a purge hooked up to your nitrous kit??
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scalbert Major General 158 Rep 5,776 Posts Drives: '13 S4, '15 Q7 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Woodstock, GA iTrader: (8)	I would agree and would be my preference (I want to try and swap turbos on stands in my garage) yes, masochist. But I wouldn't be suprised to see a general shift on this patform. This is largely due to the straight line speed desires which seem prominent here. Obviously a road course is not a place for nitrous. But few seem to interest for that.
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