Take 5: Vishnu 335i - Finally tested the Vishnu Stg 1 "kit"

OpenFlash · 11-21-2006, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 2K5 325i

Subscribed to another Vishnu thread- because someday in the next year or so- I plan on snagging a SG or AW 335i ZSP 6MT, and getting all the power I can out of it!

Although: A few guys at the E46Fanatics.com forum were a little upset at the fact that you are charging so much for your BMW Products

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Seems like price gouging to me... but who am I to bite the hand that feeds the mouth?

I hope your progress continues in the much discussed N54 quest!
Good luck, god speed!

-Chris

Hi Chris,
The v550 kit includes just the turbo kit hardware (turbo, dp, wastegate, injectors, etc,). It does not include the exhaust, xede, cams, cam gears, fuel pump, etc,. The v550 price assumes you already have that. If you are starting from a bone stock car, you will need everything mentioned above. And the total price is closer to $7000. And you'd probably want a clutch as well (another $1800). And installation for everything is another $1500 or so. So yes, building a 550hp evo will cost you around $10k.

-shiv

tommithy · 11-21-2006, 01:17 PM

Xede only will be about 40 hp and 40 tq.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...472#post461472

ArmyBimmerDude · 11-21-2006, 01:21 PM

Thank you tommithy, I was looking everywhere for that

tommithy · 11-21-2006, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude

Thank you tommithy, I was looking everywhere for that

No problem! Although it took me about 30 minutes to find it.

sstarch1 · 11-21-2006, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tommithy

No problem! Although it took me about 30 minutes to find it.

Too lazy.

vanillarice19 · 11-21-2006, 02:04 PM

That's his estimation at the time. We're all still waiting for Dyno graphs comming soon from a production chip.

ArmyBimmerDude · 11-21-2006, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sstarch1

Too lazy.

Whoa buddy, relax. No need to get mean or anything. Everyones wrong every once in a while.

tommithy · 11-21-2006, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude

Whoa buddy, relax. No need to get mean or anything. Everyones wrong every once in a while.

I think he was referring to himself as being to lazy to search.

sstarch1 · 11-21-2006, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude

Whoa buddy, relax. No need to get mean or anything. Everyones wrong every once in a while.

No no, i mean i was too lazy too look for the XEDE stats.
No probs, mate

tommithy · 11-21-2006, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by vanillarice19

That's his estimation at the time. We're all still waiting for Dyno graphs comming soon from a production chip.

You are correct, it was his estimation based upon the testing he has done on his own vehicle. Since nobody else has done just an xede only install yet this is all we have to go on however I'm inclined to trust Shiv's "estimations" being that he is the developer of the product.

Oh, and it's not a chip. It's a piggyback ecu.

sstarch1 · 11-21-2006, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tommithy

You are correct, it was his estimation based upon the testing he has done on his own vehicle. Since nobody else has done just an xede only install yet this is all we have to go on however I'm inclined to trust Shiv's "estimations" being that he is the developer of the product.

Oh, and it's not a chip. It's a piggyback ecu.

Its not a piggy back ECU. Its an ECU.
Read Take 1 or 2.

ArmyBimmerDude · 11-21-2006, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sstarch1

No no, i mean i was too lazy too look for the XEDE stats.
No probs, mate

Whoops, my bad

ArmyBimmerDude · 11-21-2006, 04:11 PM

Hey Shiv, could you please put to rest the question of exactly when the xede will be available for order? Everyone here is kinda anxious about the whole thing and I think they need piece of mind or something

OpenFlash · 11-21-2006, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude

Hey Shiv, could you please put to rest the question of exactly when the xede will be available for order? Everyone here is kinda anxious about the whole thing and I think they need piece of mind or something

If all goes well with the next two Xede installs/tunes I'm doing later this week, we will start taking orders next week. Just need to get some maps for bone stock cars first.

Cheers,
shiv

tommithy · 11-21-2006, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sstarch1

Its not a piggy back ECU. Its an ECU.
Read Take 1 or 2.

I have read ALL of the threads on this. I've been following it since Shiv got his 335. I will say that although Shiv has never called it a "piggy back" he has responded to posts calling it that such as this one

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...568#post462568

and never corrected anyone.

I wouldn't call it a standalone ECU as it does not work all by itself. It works in conjunction with the stock ECU. To me that implies a piggy back type scenario where the Xede is working with stock ECU instead of replacing it like a stand alone ECU would.

Either way, no matter what you call it, it's an awesome piece of work and I plan on getting it sometime in the near future for my 335 that I'll be picking up tomorrow.

ArmyBimmerDude · 11-21-2006, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

If all goes well with the next two Xede installs/tunes I'm doing later this week, we will start taking orders next week. Just need to get some maps for bone stock cars first.

Cheers,
shiv

Thank you shiv! Hopefully that question doesn't come up anymore.

sstarch1 · 11-21-2006, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tommithy

I have read ALL of the threads on this. I've been following it since Shiv got his 335. I will say that although Shiv has never called it a "piggy back" he has responded to posts calling it that such as this one

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...568#post462568

and never corrected anyone.

I wouldn't call it a standalone ECU as it does not work all by itself. It works in conjunction with the stock ECU. To me that implies a piggy back type scenario where the Xede is working with stock ECU instead of replacing it like a stand alone ECU would.

Either way, no matter what you call it, it's an awesome piece of work and I plan on getting it sometime in the near future for my 335 that I'll be picking up tomorrow.

I can live with that!

OpenFlash · 11-21-2006, 05:14 PM

Me too. Like my new sig?

tommithy · 11-21-2006, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Me too. Like my new sig?

hehehe, that's great!

Dannys M3 · 11-21-2006, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

If all goes well with the next two Xede installs/tunes I'm doing later this week, we will start taking orders next week. Just need to get some maps for bone stock cars first.

Cheers,
shiv

Shiv,
Has anyone expressed any interest in a 100 octane tune. I mean if we can have two tunes other than a tune for the locally available octane what else could someone choose? I'll be part of the December Miami group, should I bring 5 gallons of 100 octane or would they have some at the dyno facility?

JP@SI · 11-21-2006, 06:33 PM

FYI - the reason the XEDE piggyback unit cannot control or change the rev limiter is because these functions are hardset in the DME. There aren't any wires that you have to cut to get into the RPM system, it's "built-in". Nor can you undo any speed governors.

There's also another function called electronic throttle function (you can actually make it take off hard and pull instant, versus delayed). Sometimes manufacturers use this advantage to "make or kill power" (i.e. butt dyno). There are cars like Porsche (and BMW) that don't open at 100%... etc. There are other things here to take into account, but again, ALL DME functions.

At which point, you might be thinking, why not just do everything through a DME? Again, just FYI. Certain parameters just NEED to be done via DME.

JP@SpeedInnovation.

P.S. This post was meant for informational purposes, not towards the pros and cons of a piggyback unit or DME functions.

dmeyer · 11-21-2006, 08:26 PM

How about this as the "Shiv" button...

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JP@SI New Member 0 Rep 5 Posts Drives: RINSpeed RRSport (PSI) Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Pasadena, CA iTrader: (0)	FYI - the reason the XEDE piggyback unit cannot control or change the rev limiter is because these functions are hardset in the DME. There aren't any wires that you have to cut to get into the RPM system, it's "built-in". Nor can you undo any speed governors. There's also another function called electronic throttle function (you can actually make it take off hard and pull instant, versus delayed). Sometimes manufacturers use this advantage to "make or kill power" (i.e. butt dyno). There are cars like Porsche (and BMW) that don't open at 100%... etc. There are other things here to take into account, but again, ALL DME functions. At which point, you might be thinking, why not just do everything through a DME? Again, just FYI. Certain parameters just NEED to be done via DME. JP@SpeedInnovation. P.S. This post was meant for informational purposes, not towards the pros and cons of a piggyback unit or DME functions.
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