[AltecBX]

Originally Posted by themyst

-I don't understand this question. Pull the fuse or cut the pump power if you want to disable methanol. Honestly I have no idea why you would want to though.

Thanks

For instant, if I'm low on meth and dont want to have it spray, I want to save it for a later run. I would like it to work as if I didn't have any methanol at all without plugging in my laptop and changing the injection mode to 0, so the map that imin can autotune as well.

When using the key fob, is there any indication on dash that methanol is disabled?

[OpenFlash]

We are devising a simple way to switch between injection modes without using a laptop. So when you decide to turn off methanol, you can just go back to standard injection mode (0) and have both maps autotune.

Shiv

[themyst]

Originally Posted by AltecBX

Thanks

For instant, if I'm low on meth and dont want to have it spray, I want to save it for a later run. I would like it to work as if I didn't have any methanol at all without plugging in my laptop and changing the injection mode to 0, so the map that imin can autotune as well.

When using the key fob, is there any indication on dash that methanol is disabled?

If you run out of meth, your flow sensor (IFS-30) will send the appropriate no-flow signal to the Procede and you will revert back to your Map 1 (non-meth) settings. It saved my ass the other day when my tank went bone dry. IFS-30 FTW

[cn555ic]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

We are devising a simple way to switch between injection modes without using a laptop. So when you decide to turn off methanol, you can just go back to standard injection mode (0) and have both maps autotune.

Shiv

What about nitrous mode?? How do you log the wideband A/F?

[Clap135]

If you are low on meth and want to save it later, simply stay below whatever boost target your meth comes on. Seems like some one you are getting picky about bs

[themyst]

Originally Posted by Clap135

If you are low on meth and want to save it later, simply stay below whatever boost target your meth comes on. Seems like some one you are getting picky about bs

Meth is cheap, buy a 5 gallon gasoline container and fill up at the track. I got 7 gallons of the stuff which should last me a good six months minimum. WOT away!

[Slidewayz]

Originally Posted by themyst

You break traction in 2nd gear? Interesting. I can't get my car to break traction in 2nd, 1st happens all the time, but not 2nd.

I have a 6MT & 19" 275 Falkan 452s. In cooler weather, I sometimes get the traction control nannies stepping in for 3rd gear too.

[themyst]

Originally Posted by Slidewayz

I have a 6MT & 19" 275 Falkan 452s. In cooler weather, I sometimes get the traction control nannies stepping in for 3rd gear too.

That is weird, I have 255 Dunlop Direzza Z1's in the rear and I only have issues in 1st gear.

[AltecBX]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

We are devising a simple way to switch between injection modes without using a laptop. So when you decide to turn off methanol, you can just go back to standard injection mode (0) and have both maps autotune.

Shiv

Perfect.

It has nothing with being cheap or keeping it before boost at 8psi. What Shiv mentioned above would work great for us that want to switch modes. The failsafe also would just revert to map 1 which won't autotune. I'm really glad Shiv understands what we want and gets these features working. Thanks guys

[ridin135]

You could also just run the autotune maps on non meth and just keep those settings and switch over to progressive meth autotuning. This will be the best thing until shiv releases his new switch.

[enrita]

You can also just fill it with denaturated alcohol which can be purchased everywhere.

[AltecBX]

Originally Posted by ridin135

You could also just run the autotune maps on non meth and just keep those settings and switch over to progressive meth autotuning. This will be the best thing until shiv releases his new switch.

That's exactly what I'm doing.

Originally Posted by enrita

You can also just fill it with denaturated alcohol which can be purchased everywhere.

Is denaturated alcohol from home depot just as good as methanol or juice? I've been reading some people putting that in. If that's the case, I can go to home depot and put that in all week long.

[alextremo]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

We are devising a simple way to switch between injection modes without using a laptop. So when you decide to turn off methanol, you can just go back to standard injection mode (0) and have both maps autotune.

Shiv

Any ideas on when we might see this functionality? Just to confirm - switching injection modes won't reset autotune like switching maps will it? So I could drive around and autotune map 1 without running meth, then turn on the injection mode and it will progressively move from the autotuned map 1 to map 2 based on meth flow, and then autotune map 2 under certain conditions, right?

Ideal scenario would still be to have PROcede injection mode switch and methanol hardware switch be one and the same

[Joshboody]

Ok, most of my questions were answered after reading, but...

with autotuning and meth ON, are the autotuning parameters remembered on restart?

I understand Shiv may have a new feature to enable autotuning on map1 with meth OFF?

[Chefcg1]

I installed my vishnu meth kit this past weekend and have been messing around with it on the new beta maps, but I have an issue. When meth turns on i see the turn signals come on but they keep flashing and going out, when i know they should be at full meth. The car is not switching fully to the meth map. I have been busy at work so I haven't been able to spend anytime in the car with a laptop to see what is happening. My commute is 8 miles so not much time. Any thing I should look for first? I have map two switch point at 14 as suggested, max boost at 18psi. I had UT start at 70% IC at 0. 93 oct and 75% meth mix. Thanks!

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by Chefcg1

I installed my vishnu meth kit this past weekend and have been messing around with it on the new beta maps, but I have an issue. When meth turns on i see the turn signals come on but they keep flashing and going out, when i know they should be at full meth. The car is not switching fully to the meth map. I have been busy at work so I haven't been able to spend anytime in the car with a laptop to see what is happening. My commute is 8 miles so not much time. Any thing I should look for first? I have map two switch point at 14 as suggested, max boost at 18psi. I had UT start at 70% IC at 0. 93 oct and 75% meth mix. Thanks!

Easy fix. Drop the injection mode value (currently 14) a few points. This value should represent max sustained meth flow at WOT. If it's set right for your particular car, the flasher indicators will remain on at WOT. What is happening is that actual meth flow is lower than 14. So drop this value to 11 or 12 and you should be solid.

Shiv

[adrian@vishnu]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Easy fix. Drop the injection mode value (currently 14) a few points. This value should represent max sustained meth flow at WOT. If it's set right for your particular car, the flasher indicators will remain on at WOT. What is happening is that actual meth flow is lower than 14. So drop this value to 11 or 12 and you should be solid.

Shiv

I set up a car on the weekend and I ran 12. At 13 it had occasional flickers. A4 12 it is solid. You just want it fully on map 2 at normal full meth flow.

Adrian

[cn555ic]

Originally Posted by adrian@vishnu

I set up a car on the weekend and I ran 12. At 13 it had occasional flickers. A4 12 it is solid. You just want it fully on map 2 at normal full meth flow.

Adrian

I originally had it at 13, for some reason since I changed out a new controller since my fried, I am only able to input a 11 to make it solid light but the Procede logs show 11 steady with flickers of 12 even 13...so I guess 11 is my number for my meth system...Its pretty weird that every car is different....Do you think the Lebonte failsafe flow meter can be calibrated differently or do would you think I have a blockage since I can only get it to show full flow at 11??

[adrian@vishnu]

Originally Posted by cn555ic

I originally had it at 13, for some reason since I changed out a new controller since my fried, I am only able to input a 11 to make it solid light but the Procede logs show 11 steady with flickers of 12 even 13...so I guess 11 is my number for my meth system...Its pretty weird that every car is different....Do you think the Lebonte failsafe flow meter can be calibrated differently or do would you think I have a blockage since I can only get it to show full flow at 11??

I would say the variation is in the flow meter. If that is all you changed. I would say you are flowing the same as before but the new meter is just reading a lower voltage. Therefore just set the highest number that gets solid indication and the result would be the same.

Adrian

[OpenFlash]

+1
also remember that we are talking pretty low voltages here. A meth flow reading of 10 and 15 is only .5v and .75v respectively. So if the device falls out of calibration just .1v, it will have a big effect on nominal flow values.

-shiv

[Sparky66]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

We are devising a simple way to switch between injection modes without using a laptop. So when you decide to turn off methanol, you can just go back to standard injection mode (0) and have both maps autotune.

Shiv

Shiv,
If I'm reading the above correctly........the ideal setup you explain above would be if one chooses to manually disable and turn off the meth setup via Injection Mode switching (dash switch via CANbus) or the meth fluid runs out, the change to the persistant "Autotune" map1 happens automatically.

Whenever an injection mode change happens, I think it would be awkward at best if Autotuning of Map1 had to re-learn everytime it switches maps..........just putting that out there.

So is it fair to say if we can expect that when the Procede does not see meth flow via input from the IFS-30, the tune has the capability to automatically switch injection modes and progressively transition from the Meth map to map1, but if we manually switch to Meth Injection mode and meth is flowing, it will progress to the Meth Map.
In this setup.......Map1 always being a "Autotune Mode Map" and Map? being a "Meth Injection Mode Map".

The DTC map switching should only be for switching between Map1 - High MPG Map - Valet.
Methanol mapping should only be accessible via another CANbus enabled switch which will change Injection modes.... which will then in turn, automatically enable the Meth Map.

Please don't flame me as it is just a thought which I think would be ideal but is this feasible at all or have I confused myself??

[scalbert]

What is full scale on the flow sensor?

I suspect it isn't even calibration but normal variations in a low cost sensor. 5% full scale is probably the rated accuracy.