[SteveMD]

Probably mentioned (Haven't read through the whole thread) but GTechs measure instantaneous speed at 1320ft - at least mine does.

Tracks average the speed over the final 70 feet or so. Ergo, a GTech will read slightly higher.

The time though is fantastic. I want a 335i

[2007/335i/coupe]

Sorry sflgator, my local track has closed its weekly drag racing night and will re-open in March. There maybe an event for imports and such, but I don't pay for the additional entrance fees for those events.

[radgator1]

No offense but more GTech times won't prove much except what we already know, that the Xede makes the 335i much faster than stock. The only thing that counts is timeslips and you guys in South Florida have an awesome track with open 1/4 mile races 2-3 times a week. I believe DoctorDel said he is organizing a night. They have open entry 1/4 mile racing on 1-3, 1-5, 1-10, 1-12, etc, etc, etc. Get out there boys and show us your timeslips

[teknochild]

Originally Posted by 13307

I'm assuming you're kidding, because if you think LSD doesn't do anything for you in a straight line your totally right you must have never drag raced anyone while being noob enough to totally lose traction?! Without LSD, idiots cannot ensure that both wheels receive full power.

fixed it a little for you

please read next time

Originally Posted by teknochild

if your spinning your wheels enough for the lsd to come into play... then the lsd aint going to save you anyway

[SuperSport]

My experience has been that the G-tech will read .1 to .3 to fast and about 3 mph to fast. Still impressive numbers needless to say. But that was just the one I owned. I am sure they are all not the same.

[CASHBY]

million things are going to go into play for 1/4 mile et's. altitude is a huge one for those of you in other states, weather, temps, traction, track temps, etc.

we will just wait to see what all of us can do, regardless we all know it will break 12's with good traction.

[max boost]

Originally Posted by radgator1

But the problem is that trap speed is near that of a stock C6 Z06, a car with over 500 HP and torque that only weighs 3100 lbs. As another reference a 123mph trap speed is around 8 mph faster than the average e60 M5.

The power to weight ratio for an Xeded 335i just doesn't add up to 123mph trap If it really turns out to be that fast I will be ecstatic though

yeah that trap isnt right....BTW c6 z06 trap 127.....

i would guess though that the 12.5 is close but more like a 115 116 trap...

BTW i have c5 that traps 146:rocks: :rocks:

[radgator1]

Originally Posted by max boost

yeah that trap isnt right....BTW c6 z06 trap 127.....

i would guess though that the 12.5 is close but more like a 115 116 trap...

BTW i have c5 that traps 146:rocks: :rocks:

Sweet, got any Vids?

[CASHBY]

12.5 is probably a 110 trap speed based of my experience.

but depends on a couple different factors. so they vary

[335Black]

Just to let anyone know in the North Florida area, Gainsville Raceway will be opened back up next Saturday ( January 6th) for Test n Tune !!!
As far as G-tech goes, I have never heard of one being very accurate...not trying to rag on anyone or start a war, but the only way to truely measure a performance upgrade is to get a baseline for each indvidual car and its driver...what if the stock car ran 12.90's according to g-tech.

[CASHBY]

gainsville is a nice track.. my buddy in his 05 A4 on 19's fully interiored ran a 12.75 there. if you know him his name is david

[musc]

Originally Posted by sflgator

First of all, why do we really need stock runs when the car mags and others already did independent runs with the stock 335i???? Most got ~ 0-60mph in 4.8-4.9 sec., 0-100 in 12.1 and 1/4 mi. in 13.6 @ 105mph. After the XEDE install, I gained 57WHP and 92 wheel TQ...this car is much faster than before!

Second of all, after seeing Shiv install the XEDE and not having the DIY install video, I'm really not inclined to uninstall and then re-install the XEDE at this time.

I was under the impression that you could just unplug the module for a stock run, just leaving all the hardware in place. I haven't seen an install, so that may be more complicated than I envisioned. The only benefit of a stock run right now would be to give an idea of the G-techs accuracy given your variables (i.e. using the same road, weather, etc). Then you can see the gain from stock. Given the awesome dyno improvement, there is no doubt the 1/4 mile/mph gain should be huge!!

I think we are just all eager to see what kind of numbers the Xede 335i can put up. Thanks for the info you have posted so far

[2007/335i/coupe]

Originally Posted by catm3

I was under the impression that you could just unplug the module for a stock run, just leaving all the hardware in place. I haven't seen an install, so that may be more complicated than I envisioned.

It's not extremely difficult but does require you to remove a few pieces before you can access the area where the Xede is placed. Seeing it in person is not as complicated but I'll still need a video with step by step instructions if I'm doing it myself for the first few times. Wires tend to scare me...
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...highlight=xede

[musc]

Originally Posted by 2007/335i/coupe

It's not extremely difficult but does require you to remove a few pieces before you can access the area where the Xede is placed. Seeing it in person is not as complicated but I'll still need a video with step by step instructions if I'm doing it myself for the first few times. Wires tend to scare me...
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...highlight=xede

Ok, that is a lot of wires Not sure I'd want to mess with disconnecting that. I think I did read wear Shiv mentioned the final version will have everything loomed and easier to install/remove. Thanks for the link.

[max boost]

Originally Posted by radgator1

Sweet, got any Vids?

yuppers....66MM TURBONETICS....twins :rocks: http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...=ATCO11206.flv

this other vid is 1 yr earlier....TE44 percison...56MM

http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...rrent=atco.flv


this vid shows drivealbity.....check it out.....crazy blast at the end of the vid....
http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...5TWINTURBO.flv

[canuck335i]

Originally Posted by max boost

yuppers....66MM TURBONETICS....twins :rocks: http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...=ATCO11206.flv

this other vid is 1 yr earlier....TE44 percison...56MM

http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...rrent=atco.flv


this vid shows drivealbity.....check it out.....crazy blast at the end of the vid....
http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...5TWINTURBO.flv

impressive!!

[13307]

Originally Posted by teknochild

if your spinning your wheels enough for the lsd to come into play... then the lsd aint going to save you anyway

I don't want to sound mean, but you are not even close on this one. I think you need to understand how LSD's work, and understand that when you don't have it, and are spinning the wheels, they are not spinning at the same rate. I will help you understand this with a simple hands on test. Take your 335 and find the best empty safe road you can. Turn off dtc AND dsc. Drop the clutch at 4 grand and what happens. Yes, you will spin both wheels, the way you know they are not spinning at the same rate is because the car didn't do a donut! Yes the back will drift a bit depending on how much grip you have. Now, go over to your local dealer, tell him you think you want to trade yours in for that used M3 he assuredly has, get a test drive..alone if you can otherwise your CA is not going to be your friend for long. Again turn off traction control(and dsc if it has it, my 99 M3 just had tract ctrl no dsc). Do the same thing, what happens, you spin around in circles. Now before any one starts in on it, yes it is possible to do donuts in a 335 if you play with the throttle, steering, and brake modulation, but I'm trying to illustrate the point without going into a 5 page technical discussion on the half dozen different diff types and each ones goods and bads. I'm not trying to sound snooty, I'm serious, please be safe about it first and foremost, but give it a try. If the BMW CA won't let you try one, go drive a mustang GT with the optional LSD rear, the ford dealers will happily try to show you how much better it is than you bimmer, try not to laugh in their face or they won't let you take one. This is really boilerplate car racing stuff, and learning about it can be alot of fun, trust me I've been racing everything from shifter karts to motocross(no lsd there!) to SCCA for most of my life, and as we work on these new iterations, new things are learned every track day.

[radgator1]

Originally Posted by max boost

yuppers....66MM TURBONETICS....twins :rocks: http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...=ATCO11206.flv

this other vid is 1 yr earlier....TE44 percison...56MM

http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...rrent=atco.flv


this vid shows drivealbity.....check it out.....crazy blast at the end of the vid....
http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...5TWINTURBO.flv

Awesome Videos:rocks: That car is a total beast.

[teknochild]

Originally Posted by 13307

I don't want to sound mean, but you are not even close on this one. I think you need to understand how LSD's work, and understand that when you don't have it, and are spinning the wheels, they are not spinning at the same rate. I will help you understand this with a simple hands on test. Take your 335 and find the best empty safe road you can. Turn off dtc AND dsc. Drop the clutch at 4 grand and what happens. Yes, you will spin both wheels, the way you know they are not spinning at the same rate is because the car didn't do a donut! Yes the back will drift a bit depending on how much grip you have. Now, go over to your local dealer, tell him you think you want to trade yours in for that used M3 he assuredly has, get a test drive..alone if you can otherwise your CA is not going to be your friend for long. Again turn off traction control(and dsc if it has it, my 99 M3 just had tract ctrl no dsc). Do the same thing, what happens, you spin around in circles. Now before any one starts in on it, yes it is possible to do donuts in a 335 if you play with the throttle, steering, and brake modulation, but I'm trying to illustrate the point without going into a 5 page technical discussion on the half dozen different diff types and each ones goods and bads. I'm not trying to sound snooty, I'm serious, please be safe about it first and foremost, but give it a try. If the BMW CA won't let you try one, go drive a mustang GT with the optional LSD rear, the ford dealers will happily try to show you how much better it is than you bimmer, try not to laugh in their face or they won't let you take one. This is really boilerplate car racing stuff, and learning about it can be alot of fun, trust me I've been racing everything from shifter karts to motocross(no lsd there!) to SCCA for most of my life, and as we work on these new iterations, new things are learned every track day.

let it go dude, i know how a differential and an lsd work, and the lsd isnt going to matter UNLESS YOUR SPINNING YOUR WHEELS, as long as your going in a straight line (and not spinning your wheels) the lsd isnt going to make you any faster

(are you notciing a pattern here and in the posts ive already made, mainly the straight line no wheel spin part, getting me yet?) itll probably make the car a little easier to control (i should note before i said "no difference" but i meant that about your speed), but its not going to make you any faster (unless you suck at driving) as you said its meant to keep the wheels spinning at the same rate, or close to the same rate, but thats not going to matter unless you cant; launch worth shit/shift worth shit/or keep your car staright

now im ending this here, you guys can continue to debate with yourselfs, but i wont respond

[max boost]

Originally Posted by radgator1

Awesome Videos:rocks: That car is a total beast.

thanks bro!!!!!!!


:rocks: :rocks: :rocks: :rocks:

see that street vid towards the end? stupid fast...that was w/te44...66mm are even crazier.... from a roll! i raced buddie on 06 gsxr1000 from like a 50 mph roll and i walked away from him

dude i am pickin up my 335i tommorow morning!!!!!! montego, auto, paddle, cold weather, performance, sport and nav!!!!
i am stoked!

[musc]

Originally Posted by max boost

thanks bro!!!!!!!


:rocks: :rocks: :rocks: :rocks:

see that street vid towards the end? stupid fast...that was w/te44...66mm are even crazier.... from a roll! i raced buddie on 06 gsxr1000 from like a 50 mph roll and i walked away from him

dude i am pickin up my 335i tommorow morning!!!!!! montego, auto, paddle, cold weather, performance, sport and nav!!!!
i am stoked!

your C5 is insane!

[max boost]

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