[Walked U]

I broke in my car hard.


Hahaha charlie stop cannibalizing other 335's.

[RealityInCheck]

Originally Posted by jjlawyer

are these numbers using STD or SAE correction? I think SAE numbers would be about 4% less.

Originally Posted by Patric 335

The sheet says STD:1.00

Originally Posted by Walked U

Ya STD

In the US the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) has developed a correcting calcuation formula such that it can be applied to all dynometer readings to create a "standard" power number that allows it to be compared to any other SAE corrected number. The SAE determined that the standard that all figures would be corrected to would be to an ideal 77 degrees, 29.23 in/hg., and 0 humidity. The Society considers the effects of temperature, humidity and atmospheric pressure to be known and constant, thus allowing the comparison between dynos nationwide.

Standard (STD) is a similar formula but it uses 29.92 in/hg and 68 degrees (the humidity is the same at 0). This formula produces higher hp and torque numbers than the SAE numbers and should only be used to compare to other Standard numbers. Lots of aftermarket companies like Standard because it gives better hp numbers, in researching this topic I found one car that made a supposed 11hp increase with Standard vs SAE. SAE=327hp Std.=338hp. This was on the same run with different correction factors applied.

Actual is the actual power output made by the vehicle with all atmospheric conditions affecting the power readings either way. Actual power figures will be lower than the corrected numbers when the air pressure is lower than the corrected constants and higher when the air pressure is higher all other variables being equal. Raise the temperature above the constant and power will drop off, just as will having any humidity. Now crunch the numbers taking into account each of these variables and thier effects on each other and you will be as smart as the people down at DynoJet.

In a nut shell you can compare SAE with SAE or Standard with Standard but none of them ever with each other and Actual numbers cannot even be compared to other Actual numbers unless done at the exact same time with the exact same conditions, which is impossible.

Just something to consider when comparing your dyno sheets to others.

[CASHBY]

i am having fun

[CASHBY]

Originally Posted by Ryan(e92)

And I had driven about a 1/2 mile before I lost my first race......to another 335 sedan w exhaust(CEA's car). Big time torque pulls super hard.

you sitll made awesome tourqe!!! but ya the exhaust makes a big difference

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by CEA 3

hahahah...i guess the exhaust really helps.

but yea the tourqe helps out a lot so it will pull a bit harder.....

i am having fun with the car so far

So, the real question is your new PROcede-equipped 335i faster than your modded "World's fastest Audi B6 A4 Wagon?"

[CASHBY]

good #'s.

[Longboarder]

1) CEA 3: 330whp and 380wtq
2) Walked U : 330 rwhp and 370 wtq, 91 octane, everything else stock. Stock numbers 272 rwhp and 282 wtq
3) JonMartin : Stock = 274WHP ; 277WTQ Tuned : 320WHP ; 363WTQ
4) Ryan(E92):Stage 0 314hp 371tq
5) Longboarder: 327 RWHP, 365 RWTQ

My car is a 6MT and had only 500 miles on it so I was really impressed with the results. I did 2 pulls and the results were identical so I was even more impressed with the consistency. Stock I pulled 271/280.

I don't wan't to just echo what everyone else has said, but the car is absolutely unreal now. Not only is it incredibly fast, but possesses the characteristics of a turbo car. It has some lag in the higher gears (still not much), but you can now hear the turbo's spool until full boost...and upon deceleration there is a faint "blow-off" sound. Really incredible.

I was frankly dissappointed with the car when I picked it up a week ago. I didn't get a chance to do a test drive before I bought it and with the hype I figured the power was going to be sufficient. Well the PROceed sure took care of that. "Feels" like and addition of 150 HP and 200 LB FT of TQ regardless of what the dyno says.

[Longboarder]

One more thing...Shiv can probably elaborate further on this point but I remember him mentioning that the peak torque figures for the LA days would fall around 10 LB FT lower given the dyno used. Something about the initial load settings. This wouldn't affect peak HP figures.

[ADHD]

stock to tuned results:
1) CEA 3: ???????? === 330,380
2) Walked U : 272/282 === 330/370
3) JonMartin : 274/277 === 320/363
4) Ryan(E92): ???????? === 314/371
5) Longboarder: 271/280== 327/365
6) Patrick 335: 271/279=== 321/369
7) ADHD: 274/282===317/362

God damb this is stupid FAST holy wow!! jeses holy moly u better be hanging on all hands inside the ride at all times with your head back and seatbelt fastened cause this is one the fastest fucking rides ive ever been in!!!
HOOOOOLLLLLYYY SHIT!!! STUUUUPPPPIIIDD FAST!!! IM sooooooo happy!!
my car had 203 miles on it!!so we didnt push it! shiv said over a week of time and breaking in my power will increase!! I figure ill do another baseline dyno in a couple weeks with technic and slap on a exhaust and get some comparisons done!!!!

[RiXst3r]

ADHD... I didnt even know you got your new 335! and you already PROced'ed it!
Nice ride, congrats... stay away from old men on their way to the eye doctor!

[Longboarder]

Originally Posted by ADHD

God damb this is stupid FAST holy wow!! jeses holy moly u better be hanging on all hands inside the ride at all times with your head back and seatbelt fastened cause this is one the fastest fucking rides ive ever been in!!!
HOOOOOLLLLLYYY SHIT!!! STUUUUPPPPIIIDD FAST!!! IM sooooooo happy!!

It was great to meet you and Matt. I think your description above is EXACTLY how we all felt after driving the car.

And speaking of needing your head back at all times, I actually caught traction in 1st gear during my test drive around Harman Motive and my neck snapped back so hard against the head rest that I think I reinjured it from a prior accident. Feels better now The PROceed cars definitely have "neck snapping torque".

The car is no longer "deceptively fast". It is crazy fast...and raw...and viceral...and your senses come alive. Thanks, Shiv for bringing out the beast within.

[Driver72]

Originally Posted by ADHD

stock to tuned results:
1) CEA 3: ???????? === 330,380
2) Walked U : 272/282 === 330/370
3) JonMartin : 274/277 === 320/363
4) Ryan(E92): ???????? === 314/371
5) Longboarder: 271/280== 327/365
6) Patrick 335: 271/279=== 321/369
7) ADHD: 274/282===317/362

God damb this is stupid FAST holy wow!! jeses holy moly u better be hanging on all hands inside the ride at all times with your head back and seatbelt fastened cause this is one the fastest fucking rides ive ever been in!!!
HOOOOOLLLLLYYY SHIT!!! STUUUUPPPPIIIDD FAST!!! IM sooooooo happy!!
my car had 203 miles on it!!so we didnt push it! shiv said over a week of time and breaking in my power will increase!! I figure ill do another baseline dyno in a couple weeks with technic and slap on a exhaust and get some comparisons done!!!!

That's funny. You are one heck of a brave man tuning the car with only 203 miles on it. Wow!
I was impressed with your baseline dyno numbers on a car with just 203 miles too. They were equal too cars with lots more break in miles.
Your new car is a manual too correct?

I can't wait my time slot is noon today!!!
Seems I'll be one of the few tuned cars with the steptronic tranny.

I wish I could of done run or two against someone with a stock 6MT before the tune to see how the steps compare. Many think the steps will run equal if not a bit quicker due to the speed of the shifts.
It'll be interesting to compare the PROcede'd autos to manuals.
Seems the manuals are getting about 5 more HP and 5-10 TQ more to the wheels. Not that much more really.

Look forward to meeting a couple of you guys there later.

[rotaz]

1) CEA 3: ???????? === 330,380
2) Walked U : 272/282 === 330/370
3) JonMartin : 274/277 === 320/363
4) ROTAZ : 278/279 === 328/364
5) Ryan(E92): ???????? === 314/371
6) Longboarder: 271/280== 327/365
7) Patrick 335: 271/279=== 321/369
8) ADHD: 274/282===317/362

Here's mine...since I didn't see it in reproduced in the results I added it again.

[vase330]

Originally Posted by rotaz

1) CEA 3: ???????? === 330,380
2) Walked U : 272/282 === 330/370
3) JonMartin : 274/277 === 320/363
4) ROTAZ : 278/279 === 328/364
5) Ryan(E92): ???????? === 314/371
6) Longboarder: 271/280== 327/365
7) Patrick 335: 271/279=== 321/369
8) ADHD: 274/282===317/362

Here's mine...since I didn't see it in reproduced in the results I added it again.

How does your tuned 335 compare to your Dinan M3 and other sold hotrods?

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by vase330

How does your tuned 335 compare to your Dinan M3 and other sold hotrods?

I can't speak from personal experience about this since I never had one, but, FWIW - I asked CEA_3 if he felt that his new PROcede-equipped 335i is faster than his "World's fastest B6 A4 Wagon (chipped, exhaust, coilovers, etc. which ran the 1/4 mi. in 12.63 sec.") and he said that it feels faster, but he'll be taking it to the track soon to find out.

[Driver72]

1) CEA 3: ???????? === 330,380
2) Walked U : 272/282 === 330/370
3) JonMartin : 274/277 === 320/363
4) ROTAZ : 278/279 === 328/364
5) Ryan(E92): ???????? === 314/371
6) Longboarder: 271/280== 327/365
7) Patrick 335: 271/279=== 321/369
8) ADHD: 274/282===317/362


If you first 8 guys don't mind, can you please go here:
http://e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46865

And list your cars results answering the 8 questions?
You'll be the first group to begin the "official" list
on this site.
Any other relevant info. to the test/tune please add that as well.

Thanks.

[CASHBY]

A4 had a built motor and a big turbo GT28RS turbo.

[CASHBY]

my car is Stock without exhaust it made 270/279

[CASHBY]

Originally Posted by Driver72

1) CEA 3: ???????? === 330,380
2) Walked U : 272/282 === 330/370
3) JonMartin : 274/277 === 320/363
4) ROTAZ : 278/279 === 328/364
5) Ryan(E92): ???????? === 314/371
6) Longboarder: 271/280== 327/365
7) Patrick 335: 271/279=== 321/369
8) ADHD: 274/282===317/362


If you first 8 guys don't mind, can you please go here:
http://e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46865

And list your cars results answering the 8 questions?
You'll be the first group to begin the "official" list
on this site.
Any other relevant info. to the test/tune please add that as well.

Thanks.

Stock without exhaust it made 270/280...... i think that is what it was, ill look at the graph

[jam0321]

anybody else notice that generally speaking, the e90's have been putting up better numbers than the e92's???

[2e9x's]

It was nice meeting everybody at the dyno. Thank you for welcoming an outsider with an X3! It was really nice seeing your cars, and thank you for letting me preview iDrive.

I had a ton of questions about the install and other related topics. Shiv is one amazingly nice, bright, patient and kind gentleman. All of my dumb questions were answered without ever making me feel dumb.

Thank you again everybody! It was nice meeting you. Now my wait for my 335i is even harder...

[Walked U]

Originally Posted by CEA 3

Yea, it is for sure faster than my A4... my A4 had a built motor and a big turbo GT28RS turbo.

Charlie go to the track with me and drew.