Favorite Current-Gen 911

TheRox · 01-14-2011, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by epbrown

The groups aren't mutually exclusive - if you joined a Porsche forum you'd discover that lots of Porsche owners daily drive BMWs. I asked for daily driver recs on a Porsche forum and the recs for BMW were pretty much unanimous. BMW is why Porsche has released the Cayenne and Panamera - they found their customers commonly owned X5s and M5s as daily drivers and wanted to keep those people "in brand."

Given that I have a Panamera, I agree. The other car we looked at was the S Class, which was an impressive cruiser.

The 7 series is a truly disappointing vehicle in every way. I also assure you that the Panamera's steering sharpness and handling is better than any BMW I've driven.

Then again, the price tag is high too. The only people who don't like the Panamera have either not driven it, can't afford it...OR, can actually afford the ridiculously expensive Aston Martin Rapide and don't mind the lack of rear seat space -- at that point, the Panamera does take a bow...but its way more affordable to own and purchase than an Aston.

Looks is irrelevant, if you think the 911 is good looking, I'm pretty sure the Panamera and Cayenne look better than the frog eyed beetle. which is a brilliant car of course.

TheAcAvenger · 01-14-2011, 04:59 PM

A GT2 non-RS!

devo · 01-14-2011, 06:17 PM

GT3 or RS, yeah RS is the sh*t but so is the GT3. Each has its own merits. Already have the gt3 so I'd add a turbo S for the longer trips with the gf. Of course the 2RS is one bad azz mofo but a recent road test favored the 3/RS for its high revving na engine.

To the OP I certainly wouldn't call the GTS a DD GT3. It is a RWD 911S (same suspension) with a power kit and wider hips, not much more. It is a wicked car but it's no GT3 and does not have the dry sump Mezger engine or any of the countless other gt3 parts, not limited to the suspension, brakes, transmission and wheels. It weighs more and pumps out less power as well and makes no where near the symphonic sound the gt3 does.

Yogijet · 01-14-2011, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by devo

GT3 or RS, yeah RS is the sh*t but so is the GT3. Each has its own merits. Already have the gt3 so I'd add a turbo S for the longer trips with the gf. Of course the 2RS is one bad azz mofo but a recent road test favored the 3/RS for its high revving na engine.

To the OP I certainly wouldn't call the GTS a DD GT3. It is a RWD 911S (same suspension) with a power kit and wider hips, not much more. It is a wicked car but it's no GT3 and does not have the dry sump Mezger engine or any of the countless other gt3 parts, not limited to the suspension, brakes, transmission and wheels. It weighs more and pumps out less power as well and makes no where near the symphonic sound the gt3 does.

...and doesn't look as good

TheRox · 01-15-2011, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Los Angeles

Turbo.

All day.

I don't get the appreciation for the Tubo...its a fine car no doubt, its a rocket ship.

But have you driven one with 6MT???

It has lag, its not bad, but there is lag...its not nearly as responsive as the Carrera S, much less a GT3. Duno, its just me but the less torquey GT3 has more driver's involvement and precision than the TUrbo.

Turbo seems like a nice rocket with PDK (all boosted cars are great with an auto type tranny)...but with manual tramission, I find it frustrating in comparison to the naturally aspirated options.

stickypaws · 01-15-2011, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRox

It has lag, its not bad, but there is lag...its not nearly as responsive as the Carrera S, much less a GT3. Duno, its just me but the less torquey GT3 has more driver's involvement and precision than the TUrbo.

Turbo seems like a nice rocket with PDK (all boosted cars are great with an auto type tranny)...but with manual tramission, I find it frustrating in comparison to the naturally aspirated options.

+1
I tend to agree that the Turbo should have PDK instead of the MT. I tried out several 997 TTs this summer and the PDK now makes more sense in the FI cars to me, too. The NAs are smoother and throttle control seems more precise. The modern turbos are a far cry from the 930 (and also the 993TT), but you can still feel that difference.

TheRox · 01-15-2011, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by stickypaws

+1
I tend to agree that the Turbo should have PDK instead of the MT. I tried out several 997 TTs this summer and the PDK now makes more sense in the FI cars to me, too. The NAs are smoother and throttle control seems more precise. The modern turbos are a far cry from the 930 (and also the 993TT), but you can still feel that difference.

Thank God someone understands.

No doubt, turbo gives you that sensation of boost...and it is there, but the tradeoff is responsiveness and connection with the car.

The gain is obviously the speed

acceleration

mdosu · 01-19-2011, 10:34 PM

Turbo for me please. The perfect balance of a supercar/race car/GT car

A distant second, GTS, i love the concept.

TK-421 · 01-20-2011, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TheAcAvenger

A GT2 non-RS!

Do in this order:

- read thread title
- read post #11

View Poll Results: The best 997.2 would be the...
Carrera S - a perfect combo that avoids extremes	8	7.02%
Carrera 4S - got to have the wider arches and AWD traction	6	5.26%
Targa 4S - need that panoramic glass	4	3.51%
GTS - the GT3 that you can DD no problem, plus it looks sleeker than the avg 911	16	14.04%
Turbo/Turbo S - peerless in a straight line	25	21.93%
GT3 - the perfect weekend car; a driving scalpel	29	25.44%
GT3 RS - the best track-ready 911 on the market	34	29.82%
GT2 RS - RWD + 620hp + weight savings = obvious choice	31	27.19%
Speedster - got to love the 356 reference	4	3.51%
Sport Classic - the ducktail ties the whole design together, plus it's exclusive	8	7.02%
I pretty much like them all. They basically look the same.	2	1.75%
All 911s look ugly. I was dropped on the head when I was a baby.	4	3.51%
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devo Colonel 762 Rep 2,741 Posts Drives: '19 M2C, 991.2 GT3 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Atlanta iTrader: (0)	GT3 or RS, yeah RS is the sht but so is the GT3. Each has its own merits. Already have the gt3 so I'd add a turbo S for the longer trips with the gf. Of course the 2RS is one bad azz mofo but a recent road test favored the 3/RS for its high revving na engine. To the OP I certainly wouldn't call the GTS a DD GT3. It is a RWD 911S (same suspension) with a power kit and wider hips, not much more. It is a wicked car but it's no GT3 and does not have the dry sump Mezger engine or any of the countless other gt3 parts, not limited to the suspension, brakes, transmission and wheels. It weighs more and pumps out less power as well and makes no where near the symphonic sound the gt3 does. Last edited by devo; 01-14-2011 at 10:40 PM..*
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mdosu Banned 339 Rep 8,495 Posts Drives: Double Vanos'd Civic-M3 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (6)	Turbo for me please. The perfect balance of a supercar/race car/GT car A distant second, GTS, i love the concept.
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