[upstatedoc]

Originally Posted by Seppala

LOL that last line killed it. BMW is not a BBW car most def.

That's also how you don't see fatties driving luxury vehicles.

Welcome aboard?

[Nkc]

Quote a 3 year old comment made by a banned vacuum legend.

[gtron]

is this thread a joke? is this a troll?

edit: oh 12'. did not read passed the first post.

still, dumb.

[upstatedoc]

It's Past Not Passed!!

[DemolitionJim]

holy thread bump batman

[NEFARIOUS]

It's good advice that I never expected to find in a car forum, and shah269 said almost exactly what I'd say (except given my long IT background, it'd probably come out more technical than entertaining)... However, the thread revival is where the ball has been dropped a bit.

[gtron]

how embarrassing for all of you. lol

sorry, it needed to be said.

[Billup]

People read books to pick up women?


Is it really that hard for some of you to act like a normal person?

[NEFARIOUS]

Originally Posted by Billup

People read books to pick up women?


Is it really that hard for some of you to act like a normal person?

Then again, define "normal". I "normally" was socially awkward in general, but got worse around women. I used to struggle with dating; I assumed the worst about women (e.g. "my only chance of finding a woman is if I have a mansion, AMEX Black Card, a Lambo and someone who can bench press 300"), and left it up to the woman to make the first move (call it reading the news too often, but I assumed that women pull the rape card like African-Americans pull the race card... One LITTLE advance pulled at the wrong time and they'd be like "RRRAAAAAPPPEE!!!")... So after failing one date after the other and being 25 and not even having my first kiss, of course I'd turn to a book since my friends who were good with women wanted to keep the secrets to themselves!

[gtron]

Originally Posted by Billup

People read books to pick up women?


Is it really that hard for some of you to act like a normal person?

and some people wonder why bmw drivers get a bad rap. turns out, it has nothing to do with the way some park.

[gtron]

Originally Posted by NEFARIOUS

Then again, define "normal". I "normally" was socially awkward in general, but got worse around women. I used to struggle with dating; I assumed the worst about women (e.g. "my only chance of finding a woman is if I have a mansion, AMEX Black Card, a Lambo and someone who can bench press 300"), and left it up to the woman to make the first move (call it reading the news too often, but I assumed that women pull the rape card like African-Americans pull the race card... One LITTLE advance pulled at the wrong time and they'd be like "RRRAAAAAPPPEE!!!")... So after failing one date after the other and being 25 and not even having my first kiss, of course I'd turn to a book since my friends who were good with women wanted to keep the secrets to themselves!

books on how to potentially manipulate, trick people or be an overall dick will not help you.

confidence is about you, not other people. do whatever you want in life and if you start to shy away from something you can simply say to yourself "no fucks given" and then man the hell up. that or try drugs and alcohol. lol

that's the only advice i'll give because this thread is very awkward.

[Billup]

Originally Posted by gtron

and some people wonder why bmw drivers get a bad rap. turns out, it has nothing to do with the way some park.

I can't be pleasant all the time, that would start giving people the wrong impression.


I'm not knocking a books ability to help people build better relationships and better confidence, but some of the "pick up" books I've seen are ridiculous and fill guys heads with an "idea" instead of filling their head with ways to build self confidence, because that's what attracts women.


When I first moved down here, I met this kid Vince that was reading pick up books, forums, etc. He asked if I wanted to go out and wing with him. When we went out, the whole time I would just spark up normal conversation with women, groups, individuals, whatever. He would move in and start spewing off all these really weird and uncomfortable lines (which I later found out were "pick up" lines), and seriously drove the girls away. You could see the look of disgust in their face. I had to leave and go do my own thing, because I couldn't handle all the stuff he was saying.


Building attraction stems down to how you see and portray yourself. You can be the ugliest or skinniest bastard, but if you hold your head high and it radiates...., the ball is in your court.

[Templar]

I can't believe you've done this...

[gtron]

Originally Posted by Billup

I can't be pleasant all the time, that would start giving people the wrong impression.


I'm not knocking a books ability to help people build better relationships and better confidence, but some of the "pick up" books I've seen are ridiculous and fill guys heads with an "idea" instead of filling their head with ways to build self confidence, because that's what attracts women.


When I first moved down here, I met this kid Vince that was reading pick up books, forums, etc. He asked if I wanted to go out and wing with him. When we went out, the whole time I would just spark up normal conversation with women, groups, individuals, whatever. He would move in and start spewing off all these really weird and uncomfortable lines (which I later found out were "pick up" lines), and seriously drove the girls away. You could see the look of disgust in their face. I had to leave and go do my own thing, because I couldn't handle all the stuff he was saying.


Building attraction stems down to how you see and portray yourself. You can be the ugliest or skinniest bastard, but if you hold your head high and it radiates...., the ball is in your court.

you took that the wrong way. i was agreeing with you. i meant the bmw drivers in this thread are what give the bad rap. lol

i find the posts and books in this thread crazy awkward. haha

it's friday.

[Billup]

I kid you not, this group I was talking to was going great, laughing and yucking it up, and he walks up and says something like "Why is it that if a guy has sex with a ton of girls its okay, but if a girl has sex with a bunch of guys she's slutty?"

We all literally sat there trying to figure out what the fuck he was saying. I had to get up and walk away because it went dead silent. I later learned it was a "line" he learned, and he was severely convinced this is how women want to to be talked to, to reel them in...., I was seriously baffled. Humored, but definitely baffled.

[Joekerr]

Originally Posted by Billup

I kid you not, this group I was talking to was going great, laughing and yucking it up, and he walks up and says something like "Why is it that if a guy has sex with a ton of girls its okay, but if a girl has sex with a bunch of guys she's slutty?"

We all literally sat there trying to figure out what the fuck he was saying. I had to get up and walk away because it went dead silent. I later learned it was a "line" he learned, and he was severely convinced this is how women want to to be talked to, to reel them in...., I was seriously baffled. Humored, but definitely baffled.

Hmmm....if a key opened many locks, it would be considered a good key right? But if a lock was opened by many keys, it would not be a very good lock would it?

That is the answer to his question.

[Whostheboss]

Originally Posted by Billup

People read books to pick up women?


Is it really that hard for some of you to act like a normal person?

Some people need it. But not for me.

The KEY to getting Women is to be 'Entertaining'. Confident men are entertaining. Jerks and assholes are very entertaining.

So if you're having a hard time pulling Women, it's because you're boring.
Anyone can be boring. A rich man can be boring, a 300lb Muscle meat head can be boring. And we all know who the MOST boring man is, the nice guy. Nice dudes are the most boring disgusting men. Your niceness will NEVER win you a Woman.

You have to be entertaining. You will ALWAYS get the ladies. Trust me i know.

[P1]

I'm amazing that threads with silly advise like this actually exist. Unreal... Apparently there are a lot of sad guys out there. OP must have been a teenager.

[grimlock]

^
The great SHAH??!
Re-reading that last post - it's a work of literary genius.. I wonder why he doesn't post here anymore, anyway I hope he got his blubber whale or whatever it was he was looking for.

Originally Posted by Whostheboss

Some people need it. But not for me.

The KEY to getting Women is to be 'Entertaining'. Confident men are entertaining. Jerks and assholes are very entertaining.

So if you're having a hard time pulling Women, it's because you're boring.
Anyone can be boring. A rich man can be boring, a 300lb Muscle meat head can be boring. And we all know who the MOST boring man is, the nice guy. Nice dudes are the most boring disgusting men. Your niceness will NEVER win you a Woman.

You have to be entertaining. You will ALWAYS get the ladies. Trust me i know.

This fat but funny guy i know has the hottest gf(wife)..

Yes totally nice=genetic dead end

[Billup]

Originally Posted by P1et

I'm amazing that threads with silly advise like this actually exist. Unreal... Apparently there are a lot of sad guys out there. OP must have been a teenager.

You don't even have the slightest idea. There are forums dedicated to this kind of thing.


We should start a service. Learn to be a man 101. $100 per session.

[P1]

Fact of the matter is that "scoring" with women is not impressive. Anyone can do it. I find it laughable that men (boys, really) are proud of this.

What is impressive, however, is finding a woman will make a wonderful, loyal wife that will be a good mother to your children. Oh, and is a great cook, is well educated, has a career and looks hot to top it all off.

Now that, my friends, is what I'll tip my hat to.

[NEFARIOUS]

Originally Posted by gtron

books on how to potentially manipulate, trick people or be an overall dick will not help you.

confidence is about you, not other people. do whatever you want in life and if you start to shy away from something you can simply say to yourself "no fucks given" and then man the hell up. that or try drugs and alcohol. lol

that's the only advice i'll give because this thread is very awkward.

Well, I got it from Torrance so no sweat off my brow... And personally I just skipped over the ridiculous ones. I did adopt OP's original author (David DeAngelo) and used cocky+funny (also applicable to the broader backhanded compliment) and methods of action, but not necessarily the controversial slut opener, but one that was thought-provoking but valid... Mine was actually what I should do when I do get married, provided my dad was alive: (abridged and in 3rd person to avoid sounding like a creep) [My friend] is thinking about marriage, but since [his] dad had a restraining order against [his] mom, who should [he] invite to [his] wedding if he must choose? [insert details about being distant from mom but there are traditions, but close to dad and blah blah]. All in all, I only used about 20% of PUA advice at the most.

Most often, when one is nervous around women, it is due to not knowing what to do, which was precisely my dilemma. Also, getting the virginity thing out of the way helped too, since I noticed myself being MUCH more confident around women when sex is no longer a mystery, but I fully realize that there are people who probably had sex, but still suck around women; I'm just saying what worked for me.

But the most I got from these books is not so much following the instructions and ways of being down to the T and literally going out and doing everything it says, but more so giving those that are clueless a bit of a sense of direction, and ways to step out of your comfort zone. Like, if you were like me, "OK, so I took her on a date, now what?"... Old me: "IDK, if she likes me, I guess wait for her to kiss me or something..." New me: push pull method (actually adopted from sales closing technique and only vaguely mentioned in PUA books), kino escalation, look for signs of interest and lean in for a kiss if she's receptive. If not, send her on her way and delete her number. If she calls, she's the "take it slow" type. If she doesn't, fuck it. She doesn't deserve you. NOTE that I didn't say "start some 3-paragraph mindfuck that exploits the female mindset and guilt trip her into slobbing your knob" (manipulate) or "tell her your E90 is your second car and your Maserati is in the shop" (trick), or "treat her like a red-headed stepchild for when you get a masochistic bitch with daddy issues, it'll smooth itself out as she develops a Stockholm Syndrome-like response" (being a dick). NOOOOOOOOPPPEEE