*** Calling All Members With Problems With The 320i ***

my alias · 05-11-2011, 05:55 PM

Update on my progress........

History........misfiring, 7 new coils, 7 new injectors, 4 new plugs, 2 new oxygen sensors, several software updates, then out of warranty and still misfiring. Letter to BMW UK, first no joy, then some persistence, countless emails, countless phonecalls, numerous visits to dealership, we're talking dog with a bone........and today returned my 320i M-Sport Convertible, and drove off in a 325i M-Sport Convertible. Same mileage, better specification, new tyres and pads, 12 month warranty, and I had to cough up £1,000.

Great deal to get from the troublesome 4 cylinder and into the much nicer, smoother and hopefully trouble free 6 cylinder motor.

The problem lies with BMW as a manufacturer (or supplier of parts as aferall the issues are with Bosch and Siemens parts I believe), however fair do's to Williams Liverpool and their Head Office firstly for buying into these issues and seeing me through to a resolution, and secondly for putting up with me!

jotty · 05-12-2011, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Candy 01

The only problem is i would be buying private which mean's no warranty. So it will cost me alot WHEN it start's to fall to piece's. The owner has told me the injector's have been replaced by BMW because he did have problem's with them.

I would give the last dealer he used a call and they will confirm what has been done, this is vital if there are any future problems because its alot easier to claim if the work has already been done by the BMW Warranty system.

Have you enquired about BMW's extended warranty which isn't a great cost compared to what you would have to pay out if it went wrong.

Candy 01 · 05-12-2011, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jotty

I would give the last dealer he used a call and they will confirm what has been done, this is vital if there are any future problems because its alot easier to claim if the work has already been done by the BMW Warranty system.

Have you enquired about BMW's extended warranty which isn't a great cost compared to what you would have to pay out if it went wrong.

Yea but it might be alot of hassle to get BMW to fix problem's when it's out of warranty. Plus i don't want a car that i know will have problem's as i need it to be reliable. I wouldn't really want to pay extended warranty... Iam problem best of getting something which doesn't have any major engine problems.

doc9802 · 05-13-2011, 03:52 PM

Hi..
came accross this post when trying to look for e92 320i owner manual..
Just put a deposit 500quid for E92 320i M sport sept 2010 few days ago..then saw this forum..
To summarize from all previous post:
There are so much issue going on with regards to fuel injector, coil and plugs..

Should I expect the same issue with sept 2010 version of e92 320i?
Really need advice a.s.a.p here whether should I buy or not as next week is the dateline to seal the purchase!!

my alias · 05-13-2011, 05:48 PM

Doc 9802........

You need to know what engine is in the car. The problems arent wholly with the 3 series, instead with the 4 cylinder engine. The name of the engine in the cars, such as mine now disposed of, is the N43 engine, and it's that which is problematic. I know, from a technician friend at BMW that the N43 either has or is about to be replaced.

My suggestion to you would be to call the dealership and find out what engine is in the car. If it's not N43, instead is a new model engine, then easy decision, go ahead with the purchase. If it is the N43 though then you're taking one big risk going for the 320. Instead maybe see if you cab afford to opt up for the 325 transferring your deposit to the 6 cylinder motor instead. Hope I've help you.

doc9802 · 05-13-2011, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by my alias

Doc 9802........

You need to know what engine is in the car. The problems arent wholly with the 3 series, instead with the 4 cylinder engine. The name of the engine in the cars, such as mine now disposed of, is the N43 engine, and it's that which is problematic. I know, from a technician friend at BMW that the N43 either has or is about to be replaced.

My suggestion to you would be to call the dealership and find out what engine is in the car. If it's not N43, instead is a new model engine, then easy decision, go ahead with the purchase. If it is the N43 though then you're taking one big risk going for the 320. Instead maybe see if you cab afford to opt up for the 325 transferring your deposit to the 6 cylinder motor instead. Hope I've help you.

Thanx a lot for the advice..Will call the dealership 1st thing in the morning..if its N43 might consider 320d instead..what do you think with 320d?

atariboy · 05-14-2011, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by doc9802

Thanx a lot for the advice..Will call the dealership 1st thing in the morning..if its N43 might consider 320d instead..what do you think with 320d?

I believe that the 320D does have its problems. Turbos blowing, mostly.

AlanIOW · 05-14-2011, 01:45 PM

Having had a 320i and now a 320D, I think I am qualified to say the 320d is 100% better. BMW replaced my 2007 320i with the 320D after 2 years of irritating problems - see earlier in this thread. The 320D is faster, smoother, quieter and far more economical [44 vs 29mpg!!!], I have heard of people with problems, but nothing like the horrendous 320i. I don't know whether a 2010 320i is any better, but I certainly would not risk it.

The D also holds its value better from new, unfortunately that's not so good when buying used.

My only criticism is why is the 320D so much more expensive than the 320i when new. The price difference between the two engine varients is a lot less in the 1 series desipite identical engines.

Candy 01 · 05-15-2011, 09:41 PM

Can't anyone show this thread to bmw or take some action against them?

PeKKeR · 05-16-2011, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Candy 01

Can't anyone show this thread to bmw or take some action against them?

hahaha funny one :-)

Candy 01 · 05-16-2011, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by PeKKeR

hahaha funny one :-)

Why....?

Mattstorm · 05-17-2011, 04:12 AM

Hi Everyone,

Just thought I would post my update as its now been a few weeks since all my injectors, coils and plugs were done. The car is still working normally, had no more missfiring. I am now doing about 14 miles to work, no motorways at all and I am getting 41 mpg average on my screen.

I am using super unleaded.

PeKKeR · 05-17-2011, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Candy 01

Why....?

because ever since the creation of this forum topic, we have all been doing exactly that! telling BMW that the N43 engine is problematic.

Candy 01 · 05-17-2011, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by PeKKeR

because ever since the creation of this forum topic, we have all been doing exactly that! telling BMW that the N43 engine is problematic.

Doesn't this mean that when 320i owners want to sell no one will want to buy their car's as most will be aware of this....
I've seen a few 320i's on piston head's which have been their for a long time.

PeKKeR · 05-17-2011, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Candy 01

Doesn't this mean that when 320i owners want to sell no one will want to buy their car's as most will be aware of this....
I've seen a few 320i's on piston head's which have been their for a long time.

you are both right AND wrong.

1. most people discover this forum right after they order their car (ironic isnt it?)
2. the looks on this car (E92) are so good that most buyers dont even dare ask about if the engine behind the BMW badge has problems
3. you might be lucky to find a good mechanic (outside bmw) who will fix all your problems and drive this car for as long as you live

A

Candy 01 · 05-17-2011, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PeKKeR

you are both right AND wrong.

1. most people discover this forum right after they order their car (ironic isnt it?)
2. the looks on this car (E92) are so good that most buyers dont even dare ask about if the engine behind the BMW badge has problems
3. you might be lucky to find a good mechanic (outside bmw) who will fix all your problems and drive this car for as long as you live

A

So i presume that the value of the 320i bmw car's will fall dramatically due to he problem's the engine has...If i could get a 320i cheap i wouldn't mind would have some spare cash to pay for the repair's.

PeKKeR · 05-17-2011, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Candy 01

So i presume that the value of the 320i bmw car's will fall dramatically due to he problem's the engine has...If i could get a 320i cheap i wouldn't mind would have some spare cash to pay for the repair's.

but then again it can't be repaired , can it?

did you read the whole of this thread?

Candy 01 · 05-17-2011, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by PeKKeR

but then again it can't be repaired , can it?

did you read the whole of this thread?

To be honest no, it's over 40 page's long would take ages. I would read it top to bottom if i had a intention of buying a 320i. I presumed if the coils/injectors and plugs were changed the car run's fine ...

PeKKeR · 05-17-2011, 08:15 AM

and once again , i will repeat the famous quote , which everyone tends to forget

Assumption is the mother of all FCKUPS

personally i assumed that the E92 would be a wonderful reliable car from BMW , much better than the E46 320. And i was very very wrong my friend ! And then i found this forum !!

Candy 01 · 05-17-2011, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by PeKKeR

and once again , i will repeat the famous quote , which everyone tends to forget

Assumption is the mother of all FCKUPS

personally i assumed that the E92 would be a wonderful reliable car from BMW , much better than the E46 320. And i was very very wrong my friend ! And then i found this forum !!

Look's like i will need to cough up some more money and get a 320d instead

atariboy · 05-17-2011, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattstorm

Hi Everyone,

Just thought I would post my update as its now been a few weeks since all my injectors, coils and plugs were done. The car is still working normally, had no more missfiring. I am now doing about 14 miles to work, no motorways at all and I am getting 41 mpg average on my screen.

I am using super unleaded.

I echo that. Since my injectors, coils and plugs were done, its like a completely differenrt car. Performance, smoothness and fuel consumption is way better then it has ever been

CoopersE90 · 05-18-2011, 03:45 AM

Hi matt that's good to hear- I had cyl 4 coil spark and noc done recently and it's like the car I bought in terms of performance and delivery but consumption isn't back up to old figures like yours -I'm still 10% off at 36-37 around town. Much better than 24-25!!!

05-11-2011, 05:55 PM	#859
my alias New Member 2 Rep 11 Posts Drives: 325i M-Sport Convertible Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Liverpool iTrader: (0)	Update on my progress........ History........misfiring, 7 new coils, 7 new injectors, 4 new plugs, 2 new oxygen sensors, several software updates, then out of warranty and still misfiring. Letter to BMW UK, first no joy, then some persistence, countless emails, countless phonecalls, numerous visits to dealership, we're talking dog with a bone........and today returned my 320i M-Sport Convertible, and drove off in a 325i M-Sport Convertible. Same mileage, better specification, new tyres and pads, 12 month warranty, and I had to cough up £1,000. Great deal to get from the troublesome 4 cylinder and into the much nicer, smoother and hopefully trouble free 6 cylinder motor. The problem lies with BMW as a manufacturer (or supplier of parts as aferall the issues are with Bosch and Siemens parts I believe), however fair do's to Williams Liverpool and their Head Office firstly for buying into these issues and seeing me through to a resolution, and secondly for putting up with me!
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05-13-2011, 03:52 PM	#862
doc9802 New Member 0 Rep 5 Posts Drives: E92 320i 2010 Join Date: May 2011 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	should i buy or not? Hi.. came accross this post when trying to look for e92 320i owner manual.. Just put a deposit 500quid for E92 320i M sport sept 2010 few days ago..then saw this forum.. To summarize from all previous post: There are so much issue going on with regards to fuel injector, coil and plugs.. Should I expect the same issue with sept 2010 version of e92 320i? Really need advice a.s.a.p here whether should I buy or not as next week is the dateline to seal the purchase!!
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05-13-2011, 05:48 PM	#863
my alias New Member 2 Rep 11 Posts Drives: 325i M-Sport Convertible Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Liverpool iTrader: (0)	Doc 9802........ You need to know what engine is in the car. The problems arent wholly with the 3 series, instead with the 4 cylinder engine. The name of the engine in the cars, such as mine now disposed of, is the N43 engine, and it's that which is problematic. I know, from a technician friend at BMW that the N43 either has or is about to be replaced. My suggestion to you would be to call the dealership and find out what engine is in the car. If it's not N43, instead is a new model engine, then easy decision, go ahead with the purchase. If it is the N43 though then you're taking one big risk going for the 320. Instead maybe see if you cab afford to opt up for the 325 transferring your deposit to the 6 cylinder motor instead. Hope I've help you.
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05-14-2011, 01:45 PM	#866
AlanIOW Private First Class 18 Rep 134 Posts Drives: E93 320d M Sport Convertible Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Isle of Wight, UK. iTrader: (0)	Having had a 320i and now a 320D, I think I am qualified to say the 320d is 100% better. BMW replaced my 2007 320i with the 320D after 2 years of irritating problems - see earlier in this thread. The 320D is faster, smoother, quieter and far more economical [44 vs 29mpg!!!], I have heard of people with problems, but nothing like the horrendous 320i. I don't know whether a 2010 320i is any better, but I certainly would not risk it. The D also holds its value better from new, unfortunately that's not so good when buying used. My only criticism is why is the 320D so much more expensive than the 320i when new. The price difference between the two engine varients is a lot less in the 1 series desipite identical engines.
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05-15-2011, 09:41 PM	#867
Candy 01 Second Lieutenant 24 Rep 202 Posts Drives: 3 series E92 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: West Midlands iTrader: (0)	Can't anyone show this thread to bmw or take some action against them?
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05-17-2011, 04:12 AM	#870
Mattstorm Enlisted Member 0 Rep 35 Posts Drives: BMW 116i Sport F20 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cheshire iTrader: (0)	Hi Everyone, Just thought I would post my update as its now been a few weeks since all my injectors, coils and plugs were done. The car is still working normally, had no more missfiring. I am now doing about 14 miles to work, no motorways at all and I am getting 41 mpg average on my screen. I am using super unleaded.
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05-17-2011, 08:15 AM	#877
PeKKeR Pekker Coupe Sport 16 Rep 64 Posts Drives: BMW 320i E92 M-Sport Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Cyprus. EU iTrader: (0)	and once again , i will repeat the famous quote , which everyone tends to forget Assumption is the mother of all FCKUPS personally i assumed that the E92 would be a wonderful reliable car from BMW , much better than the E46 320. And i was very very wrong my friend ! And then i found this forum !!
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05-18-2011, 03:45 AM	#880
CoopersE90 Private 4 Rep 80 Posts Drives: E90 Touring Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Hi matt that's good to hear- I had cyl 4 coil spark and noc done recently and it's like the car I bought in terms of performance and delivery but consumption isn't back up to old figures like yours -I'm still 10% off at 36-37 around town. Much better than 24-25!!!
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