Tech Info: E90 330i N52 Three-Stage Intake Manifold

rjahl · 04-30-2018, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mattpete13

Can't really find the exact answer I'm looking for to this simple question:

Is it even worth it to install the 3IM without the tune?

I have the IM, just waiting to acquire a tune, MPE and intake. Funds are what's in my way...

So should I just put it on or wait??

Thank you to all who have posted on this thread!!!

Install the manifold and get the 330 tune from Bimmerlabs for free. get a full featured tune from BPC or AA later when you can. You will enjoy the Bimmerlabs 330 tune until then.

mattpete13 · 05-01-2018, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by rjahl

Install the manifold and get the 330 tune from Bimmerlabs for free. get a full featured tune from BPC or AA later when you can. You will enjoy the Bimmerlabs 330 tune until then.

Thanks rjahl, now to find that elusive m performance exhaust

lolskylar · 05-22-2018, 01:01 AM

Hey guys. First poster here. I am a ebay-test-pilot and I most recently installed the MERTOP ebay-specials supersprint headers.

My question is this, how do you guys get these the intake? calling junk dealers constantly and hopefully beating the next guy to it seems like the best option.

Also, does the 538i Have the DISA style intake?

Thanks in advance

vilord · 06-04-2018, 09:27 AM

I got mine from an auto parts yard as you mention. I specifically asked for the intake manifold for a SULEV N51 engine. They looked it up, found a nearby yard with a 2009 328i SULEV, ordered it up with "all accessories attached", and a few days later it arrived with both DISA valves.
528i SULEV will have the same 3IM as a 328i SULEV.

538i doesn't exist, so I'm guessing you meant 528i

BravoJohny33 · 07-05-2018, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by vilord

I got mine from an auto parts yard as you mention. I specifically asked for the intake manifold for a SULEV N51 engine. They looked it up, found a nearby yard with a 2009 328i SULEV, ordered it up with "all accessories attached", and a few days later it arrived with both DISA valves.
528i SULEV will have the same 3IM as a 328i SULEV.

538i doesn't exist, so I'm guessing you meant 528i

How much did that run you used?

CobraMarty · 07-06-2018, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by lolskylar

Hey guys. First poster here. I am a ebay-test-pilot and I most recently installed the MERTOP ebay-specials supersprint headers.

How did the headers install? Did they fit?
I thought there was some problems with fitting?

oldsport · 09-29-2018, 09:32 PM

Hello everyone, I went ahead and began to install the 3IM on my 128 (N52) and when I tested the big and small DISA valves through INPA, the big valve clearly was moving only a small amount and the small valve was opening and closing much better. I also had an issue with the CCV hose and it broke as I was trying to get things on so I pretty much had no hose as I put things back together. I had been doing it in a Walmart parking lot since I had no place at my apartment. The car was able to start, but it idles erratically and shuts off and is crazy. Luckily I was able to drive it to the front of my apartment and park it. Is this what to expect with DISA not working properly and the CCV hose off?

I am not sure if I should rebuild the large valves or just go back to stock at this point. I was very much interested in the BimmerLabs tune and had everything ready to go, but now I'm second guessing this. Please help...

PhaseP · 09-30-2018, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by oldsport

the CCV hose off?

You have to fix the CCV hose. Engine is taking in air from the broken CCV hose at the intake manifold, which is after the MAF (Mass Air Flow) sensor. Engine is receiving a lot of air that MAF sensor doesn't know about to tell the computer. And so the computer can't deal with. Hence the crazy idle and engine dying etc.

The DISA valves won't be operating until you do the tuning. At that time you have to address your DISA valve issues too. Right now you cannot expect the engine running fine with the CCV hose broken and leaking in vacuum.

You can try running it with MAF sensor cable removed, engine may behave good that way. I had similar problem during starter replacement and I was able to drive the car fine with MAF disconnected temporarily. But mine is 2006 and different computer. Not sure if your car computer will go into limp mode or not with MAF sensor disconnected.

While waiting to get the replacement hose, for temporary fix you can try to wrap the broken hose with some tape. The idea is to reduce the amount of air that leaks into the intake from outside as much as possible so that the difference MAF sensor tells to the computer than what really goes into the engine is small as much as you can make it.
If you can afford I suggest getting the OEM hose. I have used an aftermarket hose, the length of it was wrong. It fit in the end but was more work and could have broken due to getting too much bent to fit it in.

pinoye90 · 09-30-2018, 05:10 AM

I've emailed bimmerlabs twice and still no response 👍🏽 this seems to be the thing now with most companies 👎🏽

rjahl · 09-30-2018, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by pinoye90

I've emailed bimmerlabs twice and still no response this seems to be the thing now with most companies

What are you asking BimmerLabs?

hassmaschine · 09-30-2018, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by pinoye90

I've emailed bimmerlabs twice and still no response 👍🏽 this seems to be the thing now with most companies 👎🏽

I got your email today - but keep in mind, its really a couple people basically working in their basement/garage, its the weekend, and I'll respond as soon as I am able.

Maybe I should post "working hours"

pinoye90 · 09-30-2018, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by hassmaschine

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinoye90

I've emailed bimmerlabs twice and still no response 👍🏽 this seems to be the thing now with most companies 👎🏽

I got your email today - but keep in mind, its really a couple people basically working in their basement/garage, its the weekend, and I'll respond as soon as I am able.

Maybe I should post "working hours"

Interesting how ppl respond so quickly when posted on forums

Again I emailed bimmerlabs TWICE (2) the first one like 2 weeks ago then last night during non working hours.

Your websites states response in 24 hours.

Sorry, I can't seem to find the first email sent through my sent folders. Must have been a glitch.

hassmaschine · 09-30-2018, 03:59 PM

Yeah, i try to respond asap but that is not always possible.

bluewater328 · 09-30-2018, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by pinoye90

Quote:

Originally Posted by hassmaschine

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinoye90

I've emailed bimmerlabs twice and still no response 👍🏽 this seems to be the thing now with most companies 👎🏽

I got your email today - but keep in mind, its really a couple people basically working in their basement/garage, its the weekend, and I'll respond as soon as I am able.

Maybe I should post "working hours"

Interesting how ppl respond so quickly when posted on forums

Again I emailed bimmerlabs TWICE (2) the first one like 2 weeks ago then last night during non working hours.

Your websites states response in 24 hours.

Sorry, I can't seem to find the first email sent through my sent folders. Must have been a glitch.

Hassmaschine has been here for years supporting the community with posted research. Wouldn't go calling the man out here.

I'd also imagine you're emailing them for the FREE 3-stage DISA programming. Did you register?

pinoye90 · 09-30-2018, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bluewater328

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Originally Posted by pinoye90

Quote:

Originally Posted by hassmaschine

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinoye90

I've emailed bimmerlabs twice and still no response 👍🏽 this seems to be the thing now with most companies 👎🏽

I got your email today - but keep in mind, its really a couple people basically working in their basement/garage, its the weekend, and I'll respond as soon as I am able.

Maybe I should post "working hours"

Interesting how ppl respond so quickly when posted on forums

Again I emailed bimmerlabs TWICE (2) the first one like 2 weeks ago then last night during non working hours.

Your websites states response in 24 hours.

Sorry, I can't seem to find the first email sent through my sent folders. Must have been a glitch.

Hassmaschine has been here for years supporting the community with posted research. Wouldn't go calling the man out here.

I'd also imagine you're emailing them for the FREE 3-stage DISA programming. Did you register?

Nothing free just purchasing the obd2 dongle.

Can you give me one for free? 😂

hassmaschine · 09-30-2018, 11:30 PM

I dont sell the cables - that all goes to bimmergeeks

nsjames · 10-01-2018, 07:41 PM

I swear there was a list of donor vehicles around here that I bookmarked, but I can't find it and I've spent the last 15 minutes searching.
I suck.

there's a 05 X5 i6 NA in the pull a part.
Does it have the manifold I want for my 328 e91?

kickserve · 10-01-2018, 08:08 PM

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=15473858

Here's a list that I had bookmarked. Started the search myself, too.

gT-BMW · 10-01-2018, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pinoye90

I've emailed bimmerlabs twice and still no response 👍🏽 this seems to be the thing now with most companies 👎🏽

lol you were emailing him about a free tune. I emailed him twice about purchasing a custom tune from him with no response lol dont feel bad it is what is is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hassmaschine

I got your email today - but keep in mind, its really a couple people basically working in their basement/garage, its the weekend, and I'll respond as soon as I am able.

Maybe I should post "working hours"

this man is busy!! but i have to thank you for not responding to me because i just found out my motor is hurt

hassmaschine · 10-02-2018, 09:49 AM

I'll get caught up today - the last couple weeks have been mostly filled with family activities.

Didn't you just swap in a new motor? or am I thinking of somebody else?

nsjames · 10-02-2018, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by kickserve

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=15473858

Here's a list that I had bookmarked. Started the search myself, too.

that's it.

thanks.

domdel · 10-07-2018, 06:36 AM

I just finished doing my intake this past Friday, ( it's sunday now). Seems to be running just as good as it was before. Still haven't flashed the ecu yet, but I will with the euro 330. I'm just a little ascared. lol. msv80.
Thank you hassmachine for bimmerlabs.

05-22-2018, 01:01 AM	#861
lolskylar Registered 0 Rep 3 Posts Drives: 2007 328I Join Date: May 2018 Location: Vancouver iTrader: (0)	How do you guys find these intakes? Hey guys. First poster here. I am a ebay-test-pilot and I most recently installed the MERTOP ebay-specials supersprint headers. My question is this, how do you guys get these the intake? calling junk dealers constantly and hopefully beating the next guy to it seems like the best option. Also, does the 538i Have the DISA style intake? Thanks in advance
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06-04-2018, 09:27 AM	#862
vilord Major 500 Rep 1,316 Posts Drives: E91, Tundra, TT, SV650 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: boston iTrader: (1) Garage List 2019 Tundra TRD SR5 [0.00] 2002 Audi TT Roadster [0.00] 2009 BMW 328i Wagon [0.00]	I got mine from an auto parts yard as you mention. I specifically asked for the intake manifold for a SULEV N51 engine. They looked it up, found a nearby yard with a 2009 328i SULEV, ordered it up with "all accessories attached", and a few days later it arrived with both DISA valves. 528i SULEV will have the same 3IM as a 328i SULEV. 538i doesn't exist, so I'm guessing you meant 528i
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09-29-2018, 09:32 PM	#865
oldsport New Member 63 Rep 28 Posts Drives: 2009 128i/2011 VO 1M Join Date: May 2016 Location: FL/NY iTrader: (0)	Hello everyone, I went ahead and began to install the 3IM on my 128 (N52) and when I tested the big and small DISA valves through INPA, the big valve clearly was moving only a small amount and the small valve was opening and closing much better. I also had an issue with the CCV hose and it broke as I was trying to get things on so I pretty much had no hose as I put things back together. I had been doing it in a Walmart parking lot since I had no place at my apartment. The car was able to start, but it idles erratically and shuts off and is crazy. Luckily I was able to drive it to the front of my apartment and park it. Is this what to expect with DISA not working properly and the CCV hose off? I am not sure if I should rebuild the large valves or just go back to stock at this point. I was very much interested in the BimmerLabs tune and had everything ready to go, but now I'm second guessing this. Please help...
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09-30-2018, 05:10 AM	#867
pinoye90 Banned 85 Rep 466 Posts Drives: 07-E90 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: PHX iTrader: (0)	I've emailed bimmerlabs twice and still no response 👍🏽 this seems to be the thing now with most companies 👎🏽
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09-30-2018, 03:59 PM	#871
hassmaschine Major General 3989 Rep 7,212 Posts Drives: "NBO" 330i Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: earth iTrader: (0)	Yeah, i try to respond asap but that is not always possible.
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hassmaschine Major General 3989 Rep 7,212 Posts Drives: "NBO" 330i Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: earth iTrader: (0)	I dont sell the cables - that all goes to bimmergeeks
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nsjames Brigadier General 2466 Rep 4,328 Posts Drives: 08 328xi Touring Join Date: May 2017 Location: ohio iTrader: (0)	I swear there was a list of donor vehicles around here that I bookmarked, but I can't find it and I've spent the last 15 minutes searching. I suck. there's a 05 X5 i6 NA in the pull a part. Does it have the manifold I want for my 328 e91?
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kickserve Enlisted Member 30 Rep 39 Posts Drives: 2012 e91 xdrive Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Michigan iTrader: (1)	Tech Info: E90 330i N52 Three-Stage Intake Manifold https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=15473858 Here's a list that I had bookmarked. Started the search myself, too.
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hassmaschine Major General 3989 Rep 7,212 Posts Drives: "NBO" 330i Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: earth iTrader: (0)	I'll get caught up today - the last couple weeks have been mostly filled with family activities. Didn't you just swap in a new motor? or am I thinking of somebody else?
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domdel Enlisted Member 8 Rep 32 Posts Drives: 2018 X3 G01 Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	I just finished doing my intake this past Friday, ( it's sunday now). Seems to be running just as good as it was before. Still haven't flashed the ecu yet, but I will with the euro 330. I'm just a little ascared. lol. msv80. Thank you hassmachine for bimmerlabs.
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