[Litos]

Originally Posted by JPSlick

Ok keep believing this.... IDK what else to tell you, either your just trolling now, stubborn, thick headed, or not too bright.

How do you know your other cars didnt knock? Did you log them in stock form?

[Litos]

i think it would be pointless to get my 4th Interceptor Scan Gauge due to the fact that it would always show knock for this car.

fucking sucks......

[SennaZ]

Originally Posted by atlharry

Soooo, what you're saying as that 28.7 psi in a cylinder is driving a piston with enough force to create ~400 hp?

Relax, think (or read) before you speak.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by Litos

What does a 10 second 0-to 60 or a transmission temp have to do with anything

I think my Jeep can do better then that. Sounds like its running GREAT!

[Litos]

lol.

i just posted a picture of a gauge that all 3 of my turbo'd cars and ONE n/a car has.

it's an easy install and NONE of my cars have shown knock.

actually, it was pointless to put the scan gauge on my STi deeing as it was ProTuned by Cobb anyways

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by Litos

lol.

i just posted a picture of a gauge that all 3 of my turbo'd cars and ONE n/a car has.

it's an easy install and NONE of my cars have shown knock.

actually, it was pointless to put the scan gauge on my STi deeing as it was ProTuned by Cobb anyways

I dont care about your mickey mouse gauges, wheres hard data to support all your cars were knock free, stock tuned, on a day to day basis? I've learned from the best wise as$ in this thread, SHOW ME PROOF. HAHA

Again, repeating myself, stock cars can knock.

[Litos]

lol. i'll give it to you - i do not have proof as i never had to provide evidence on any of the other 6 car related forums that i post on that my car was knock free.

you win this time.......

[SennaZ]

Originally Posted by Clap135

Yet again you fail to realize that psi does not mean much. A basketball for a turbo by your logic will make the same power at 14 psi. Intact it will make more cause its pushing more air at the same psi which raises cylinder pressure more. Nice try though.

Dude, a basketball doesn't produce CFM, duhh!

Do you guys have the slightest idea what the average cylinder pressure is in a N54?* Do you know how much p-p pressure a high knock event creates, how about a low knock event?

Actually, more to the point, do you even care?

*hint, for some of your lackies, its a bit more than 28.7 psi.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by Litos

lol. i'll give it to you - i do not have proof as i never had to provide evidence on any of the other 6 car related forums that i post on that my car was knock free.

you win this time.......

Winnar (its all in good fun).

[Clap135]

You are so misinformed its.actually sad. Running a basketball sized turbo at the same psi is still 28.x pressure right? However the big turbo obviously raises cylinder pressure a lot more then a small turbo at the same psi.

Originally Posted by SennaZ

Dude, a basketball doesn't produce CFM, duhh!

Do you guys have the slightest idea what the average cylinder pressure is in a N54?* Do you know how much p-p pressure a high knock event creates, how about a low knock event?

Actually, more to the point, do you even care?

*hint, for some of your lackies, its a bit more than 28.7 psi.

[Litos]

if my car barrel rolls itself into a group of nuns after running JB4 for about 5 or 6 months, i'll think about going with a different tune.

as of right now, i feel pretty confident.

could it come back to bite me in the ass !?!? not sure, but i think everyone can admit that JB4's tune should be causing these N54's to DIAF on a weekly basis - we just don't see it.

[Slops]

Originally Posted by Litos

i AM Carlos

Hahaha Nice Carlos!

[WilliamE92]

Fastest growing thread in the history of e90post

looks like i got here a little late with the popcorn

[themyst]

Originally Posted by Litos

if my car barrel rolls itself into a group of nuns after running JB4 for about 5 or 6 months, i'll think about going with a different tune.

as of right now, i feel pretty confident.

could it come back to bite me in the ass !?!? not sure, but i think everyone can admit that JB4's tune should be causing these N54's to DIAF on a weekly basis - we just don't see it.

Honestly you'll be fine in 5-6 months. You'll also be fine 2 years from now. The question is how you'll be around 100-120k miles. The effects of knock are cumulative.

[shifterboy45]

this thread has turned into a train wreck... unstoppable at that too

when i first started working on cars i was only allowed to run for tools --
once i knew my tools, i worked up to r/r carbs and intake manifolds --
once i could (without fail) replace components in the engine bay, no extra parts left -- my boss let me pull engines and trannys for a while.

after a year or so of tedious lifting and reassembly of cylinder heads, i move to learning what makes an engine run -- my wife can atest that there was not a car that was broken, running bad, failed smog that i could get to run the way it was designed (up to the limits of its mechanicals). i studied cam profiling, was taught about cylinder head porting by some of the great untold street racer in SoCal. -- but that was only the tip of the iceberg, there is so much to learn everyday is overwhelming at times.

i feel sorry for the guys that come to this forum looking for a "rock" solid answer, because they are too busy to put in the time to pay the cost--

what i run may or may not work for you, its like brush stokes on a canvas -- you will know and feel when it all comes together. til then you will be lost in you own opinions and swayed by fads that come and go --

once you have made horsepower on your own, youll be a new person -- less opinionated and better able to define what is true or total B/*

[Joshboody]

My car goes fast and I have many fast cars.... and they have gauges that are made for fast cars How does my car go fast with the gauges

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by shifterboy45

this thread has turned into a train wreck... unstoppable at that too

when i first started working on cars i was only allowed to run for tools --
once i knew my tools, i worked up to r/r carbs and intake manifolds --
once i could (without fail) replace components in the engine bay, no extra parts left -- my boss let me pull engines and trannys for a while.

after a year or so of tedious lifting and reassembly of cylinder heads, i move to learning what makes an engine run -- my wife can atest that there was not a car that was broken, running bad, failed smog that i could get to run the way it was designed (up to the limits of its mechanicals). i studied cam profiling, was taught about cylinder head porting by some of the great untold street racer in SoCal. -- but that was only the tip of the iceberg, there is so much to learn everyday is overwhelming at times.

i feel sorry for the guys that come to this forum looking for a "rock" solid answer, because they are too busy to put in the time to pay the cost--

what i run may or may not work for you, its like brush stokes on a canvas -- you will know and feel when it all comes together. til then you will be lost in you own opinions and swayed by fads that come and go --

once you have made horsepower on your own, youll be a new person -- less opinionated and better able to define what is true or total B/*

About 30 pages back I said the same thing, except I was a little more blunt....

"I didnt get any hand outs, I did my research, now do yours". (something along those lines).

[shifterboy45]

JP--

had to add it again.. cuz you know someone is going to jump to the end of the thread to see what the "answer" is..

like skipping a test...

[atlharry]

Originally Posted by SennaZ

Relax, think (or read) before you speak.

actually, I was pointing out that your grade school math was pointless. I still think you're a little low with your 1200-1800 psi cylinder pressures. Hint - we have a HPFP rated at around 3000 psi driving our DI.

[techlogik]

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

I hate to keep repeating myself but you're wrong. If the DME didn't learn the timing curve there could exist no JB4 log without dropouts. Yet many have been posting such logs in this thread already. So your theory is out the window. The truth is drop outs indicate the DME is having a hard time determining the proper timing curve because you are approaching the point at which your boost levels can no longer be supported with your octane. So you monitor drop outs and adjust the boost curve accordingly to avoid them. Once things are stable the DME optimizes the timing curve again and off you go with drop out free tuning.

Mike

Wait, did you just make a claim that the DME has an "autotune" function which is will vary timing based on a variety of situations, and "learn" and store that info to make corrections so it doesn't knock?

[SennaZ]

Originally Posted by atlharry

actually, I was pointing out that your grade school math was pointless. I still think you're a little low with your 1200-1800 psi cylinder pressures. Hint - we have a HPFP rated at around 3000 psi driving our DI.

Wrong, sorry!

[Litos]

Originally Posted by Joshboody

My car goes fast and I have many fast cars.... and they have gauges that are made for fast cars How does my car go fast with the gauges

teehee - those gauges don't make you go fast silly, they only show real time information that determines if those fast cars are running safely