[Park2670]

Guess this place died.

[Park2670]

Oh well...

[Ruff Rider]

never say die

[Ruff Rider]

well you can I guess

[SLCGoonski]

roads are a mess...

[Ruff Rider]

Originally Posted by SLCGoonski

roads are a mess...

that's why I never drive on roads....to messy

[jbimmer3]

just got a wii for free not sure i like it though...its weird

[Ruff Rider]

Originally Posted by jhondas2

just got a wii for free not sure i like it though...its weird

I will take it off you hands. Wii suck. Just drop it by my house and you will feel better about it

[jbimmer3]

Originally Posted by Ruff Rider

I will take it off you hands. Wii suck. Just drop it by my house and you will feel better about it

only if you worship me forever

[Park2670]

Originally Posted by jhondas2

just got a wii for free not sure i like it though...its weird

ILL TAKE IT!!!

Originally Posted by jhondas2

only if you worship me forever

DONE!

[liliej]

Originally Posted by Ruff Rider

I could see using ONR on spot cleaning. I personally would not use it to clean my whole car if it was dirty. I carry Speed Shine and a micro fiber towel with me at all times just in case I get bird crap or tree sap on my car and IM not able to wash it.

One thing I do so I can wash my car all winter is I run my hose into my house and to a faucet. This way I can always use soft water to wash my car instead of hard water from my outside faucet's.

Here's my thought... let's say I want to clean my car, but prefer to take it to the local brushless place (I'm in a hurry, lazy, water restrictions etc...). Every post I've seen says that it's okay to wash your car in a brushless wash, but that you should never dry your car after that, due to the fact all the dirt is not removed with brushless washes, and drying your car will result in swirls due to dirt still on car.

Having said that, it seems plausible that you could use OMR to remove remaining dirt after the brushless wash, which would allow you to dry the car without the risk of swirls. I know it probably makes a detailer sick to think about doing this, but it seems practical for those of us who can't spend 2 hours/week washing the car (I've got three young ones at home).

Here's a link to the demo of the product... interested in your expert opinion.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...00996428313622

[liliej]

Originally Posted by Ruff Rider

never say die

... not dead, just quiet from time to time. No point in forcing the issue, right?

[Park2670]

I want a new car...

[Park2670]

Sometime soon at least!

[Ruff Rider]

Originally Posted by jhondas2

only if you worship me forever

and I throw in a nice dinner.

Parker I dibs first

[liliej]

Originally Posted by liliej

Here's my thought... let's say I want to clean my car, but prefer to take it to the local brushless place (I'm in a hurry, lazy, water restrictions etc...). Every post I've seen says that it's okay to wash your car in a brushless wash, but that you should never dry your car after that, due to the fact all the dirt is not removed with brushless washes, and drying your car will result in swirls due to dirt still on car.

Having said that, it seems plausible that you could use OMR to remove remaining dirt after the brushless wash, which would allow you to dry the car without the risk of swirls. I know it probably makes a detailer sick to think about doing this, but it seems practical for those of us who can't spend 2 hours/week washing the car (I've got three young ones at home).

Here's a link to the demo of the product... interested in your expert opinion.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...00996428313622

Whadya think Pat?...

[Ruff Rider]

Originally Posted by liliej

Whadya think Pat?...

I watched the video and I must say "could they have used a cleaner car to show how the product works"

I could see using it in summer when all that is on the car is dust and maybe some water spotting.

As far as using it in winter I would do a full wash and dry because I want all the salt bits off of the paint before I start rubbing on the paint with a wash mit.

With ONR you are only leaving out one step in the whole wash, the spraying off the car. You are still washing the car and drying it. If you do try ONR, do small sections to see if any scratches are showing up. Also use good micro fiber towels to dry and a very good wash mit.

Still to me the most important thing for the paint is to put on a good wax for winter.

[liliej]

Originally Posted by Ruff Rider

I watched the video and I must say "could they have used a cleaner car to show how the product works"

I could see using it in summer when all that is on the car is dust and maybe some water spotting.

As far as using it in winter I would do a full wash and dry because I want all the salt bits off of the paint before I start rubbing on the paint with a wash mit.

With ONR you are only leaving out one step in the whole wash, the spraying off the car. You are still washing the car and drying it. If you do try ONR, do small sections to see if any scratches are showing up. Also use good micro fiber towels to dry and a very good wash mit.

Still to me the most important thing for the paint is to put on a good wax for winter.

Good point on the car they tested this with. One question... what steps would you consider necessary for a full wash and dry?

[Ruff Rider]

Originally Posted by liliej

Good point on the car they tested this with. One question... what steps would you consider necessary for a full wash and dry?

If you are going to use ONR I would go to a spray wash place. Spray off the car and then use ONR. The thing that scares me about ONR is it can not get off the big pieces of dirt that might be stuck on the car. Spraying it first will get the big pieces off the car and then ONR can do its job better and less chance of scratching the paint.

[liliej]

Agreed... I would never suggest to use the ONR alone, without first washing the car. My point was that since the spray places don't get all the dirt off the car, you aren't supposed to dry the car. So, spraying the car first, and then using the ONR to get the remaining dirt off without scratching would allow you to fully dry the car without the risk of residual dirt scratching the finish.

[Ruff Rider]

Originally Posted by liliej

Agreed... I would never suggest to use the ONR alone, without first washing the car. My point was that since the spray places don't get all the dirt off the car, you aren't supposed to dry the car. So, spraying the car first, and then using the ONR to get the remaining dirt off without scratching would allow you to fully dry the car without the risk of residual dirt scratching the finish.

Give it a try. Would be nice to use in the winter.

One more thing. Rinse out your wash mitt a lot. This is very important even in normal washing.

[Park2670]

Originally Posted by Ruff Rider

Still to me the most important thing for the paint is to put on a good wax for winter.

*NUDGE NUDGE* *HINT HINT* *JAB JAB*


I can only avoid the salt for so much longer...