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      07-03-2017, 11:20 AM   #991
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Need some input about wgdc after pid. I feel like I am having some boost leak issues.

Wot started @2500rpm in 3rd gear but low boost and not hitting target boost. High wgdc and wgdc after pid (80%) @ 2500rpm to 3000rpm. Feels like turbo lag. This is about 1k miles after pure turbo install.

FBO inlets Pure Stage 2 turbos 91oct.

http://www.datazap.me/u/cb1/fbo-inle...-25&solo=22-25
1) Use an OTS map with aftermarket turbos =
2) In spool mode, WGDC up to 90-100% is fine.
3) WGDC after PID is almost meaningless without knowing base, but DC might be a little high for hybrids. Might indicate a boost leak, but more likely the tune that isn't optimized for them or mods.
4) Throttle closures are from overboost and probably actual load over request if you logged it
5) You hit WOT @ 2641rpm. If you find a way to instantly get 16psi within 5 rpm of WOT, please let the rest of us know.
6) Not explaining boost target for the 900th time this week, search.
7) Your LPFP is trending down steadily after 4750rpm.

At least half the actual issues on that list would be resolved with a custom tune, probably all of them.
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      07-03-2017, 11:34 AM   #992
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1) Use an OTS map with aftermarket turbos =
2) In spool mode, WGDC up to 90-100% is fine.
3) WGDC after PID is almost meaningless without knowing base, but DC might be a little high for hybrids. Might indicate a boost leak, but more likely the tune that isn't optimized for them or mods.
4) Throttle closures are from overboost and probably actual load over request if you logged it
5) You hit WOT @ 2641rpm. If you find a way to instantly get 16psi within 5 rpm of WOT, please let the rest of us know.
6) Not explaining boost target for the 900th time this week, search.
7) Your LPFP is trending down steadily after 4750rpm.

At least half the actual issues on that list would be resolved with a custom tune, probably all of them.

I appreciate your response sir!

I have contacted several companies for an e-tune. I just need a safe place to log/tune. I know...OTS map is not the best choice. I was just worried that I am having more boost leaks after months of diagnostics and getting everything fixed. At least now, with your input, I know where to start. Probably get a stage 2 lpfp and then the etune. Again, I really appreciate your response!
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      07-03-2017, 11:46 AM   #993
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At least now, with your input, I know where to start.
Looks like you're putting the cart before the horse. Place to start is with an appropriate base map. As mentioned, going off of an OTS stock turbo map isn't even an option. After that, then chase down possible boost/vacuum leaks, etc.
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      07-04-2017, 12:37 AM   #994
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Yeah, you need more octane. Do you have access to E85?

I've read that 94 up your way is actually worse than 91, but give it a shot and see. Just curious, what's the price of fuel up there, by grade?

Also, you need to reset adaptations ASAP. STFT values are all over the place.
I may have access to E85, there appears to be a station that carries it within 10 km, what mix would you recommend for a stock vehicle?

Yeah I read the same thing too but I will log the different types I've got near me. The logs above are from shell 91 (no ethanol), I will try chevron 91 (up to 10% ethanol) as well as chevron 94 (no ethanol). I should have logs for the other two within a week or two.

Shell 91 is currently 152.9 / L (4.45 USD / US gal)
Chevron 91 is currently 152.9 / L (4.45 USD / US gal)
Chevron 87 is currently 128.9 / L (3.76 USD / US gal)
The usual place I fill up in WA state is showing Shell 92 3.25 USD / US gal but unfortunately haven't gone there as often since the CDN dollar tanked. I believe that station also charges more since its right on the border.

I reset all adaptations hopefully that fixes that. Thanks!
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I may have access to E85, there appears to be a station that carries it within 10 km, what mix would you recommend for a stock vehicle?
Interesting info on gas prices/availability...thanks for sharing!

Try 2 or 3 gallons of E85 and see if the timing corrections clear up.

Also, if you can, measure the E to see what concentration it is first.
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      07-04-2017, 04:23 PM   #996
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Can someone please check out my log.
ACN91 Stage 2+ - 5" stepped fmic, catless down pipes, dci.
http://datazap.me/u/droppedmitsu/log...&mark=35-52-47

I see timing corrections are minimal so I should be good there? How do my fuel pressures look? I see my lpfp dips to 55.5 psi which I think is almost too low? STFT and LTFTs? Let me know if anything looks off and if I need to log any other parameters. Thanks in advance.
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can someone look at my log please I have mmp turbos looks like I'm targeting 30 psi but only hitting 25? http://www.datazap.me/u/jlcf22/log-1...og=0&data=3-22 http://www.datazap.me/u/jlcf22/log-1...=1&data=3-5-22
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can someone look at my log please I have mmp turbos looks like I'm targeting 30 psi but only hitting 25? http://www.datazap.me/u/jlcf22/log-1...og=0&data=3-22 http://www.datazap.me/u/jlcf22/log-1...=1&data=3-5-22
Yep.

You also have some solid corrections and according to the log name it's only version 2. If someone is tuning this for you, give them time to actually do that
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Hey guys, could someone take a look at my e60 ots log? I notice that I'm slightly under target psi but not too sure if that's a leak. Anything else that you guys could point out would be greatly appreciated thanks.

http://datazap.me/u/jonathane92/e60-...16-17-18-24-27
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Please have a look,
this is 91 running e25. Wanting to run e40 but still on first fuel pumps

http://www.datazap.me/u/massius/log-...12-15-16-17-23
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Finally got a FMIC put on with 6 fresh coil packs and plugs. Running stage1+ 91ACN with 3g of e85 and BMS DCI. Was running the 91 map but backed it off because I feel what may be trans slippage. DCT completely off. Still no timing corrections or throttle closure and no codes stored or pending. If anyone cares to take a look and see if they see something i dont i would appreciate it!

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http://www.datazap.me/u/jconnors/log...-21&solo=12-13
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Please have a look,
this is 91 running e25. Wanting to run e40 but still on first fuel pumps

http://www.datazap.me/u/massius/log-...12-15-16-17-23
Pumps look like they're healthy and happy with your current blend. Doesn't look like you logged fuel trims (or I missed them completely). Aside from the one seemingly minor timing correction everything looks great to me!
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Please have a look,
this is 91 running e25. Wanting to run e40 but still on first fuel pumps

http://www.datazap.me/u/massius/log-...12-15-16-17-23
Log looks good. Add STFT bank 1 and 2, flash the E25 Map and see how the car responds.
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can someone look at my log please I have mmp turbos looks like I'm targeting 30 psi but only hitting 25? http://www.datazap.me/u/jlcf22/log-1...og=0&data=3-22 http://www.datazap.me/u/jlcf22/log-1...=1&data=3-5-22
Trims are angry.... running meth? I would definitely check out that system, doesn't look like it is distributing correctly.
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Hey Folks - I hope I'm not committing heresy here...but I was hoping someone could review my datazap log with...a....COBB Stage 1+ FMIC tune (GASP!!)

http://www.datazap.me/u/watchwolf34/...ata=3-12-14-15

Just trying to get a second set of eyes to see if anything stands out as problematic or if there is some data point that I should be logging. Thanks!
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Trims are angry.... running meth? I would definitely check out that system, doesn't look like it is distributing correctly.
I'm running pi..hmm wonder if it's not spraying
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      07-08-2017, 08:47 PM   #1007
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http://datazap.me/u/antoans4/log-149...og=0&data=3-22

Can someone tell me about my logs
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      07-10-2017, 03:29 AM   #1008
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Its hard to tell from that.
to do a proper log,
Step 1 (go somewhere were you can go from 40mph to north of 100MPH) if you are going to do it on the street go to Mexico
Step 2 disable traction control
Step 3 put your car in 3rd gear and make sure it stays there.
Step 4 press the log button on your device
Step 5 start from 2000 RPMS in 3rd gear and go WOT until you hit 6000-7000 RPMS while still being in 3rd gear.
Do you have to "stop the logging process" after you have reached speed?
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      07-10-2017, 10:15 AM   #1009
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Do you have to "stop the logging process" after you have reached speed?
The stop the logging process after you have collected the appropriate amount of data...it doesn't have to be exact.
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      07-10-2017, 01:17 PM   #1010
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here is my first log can some one take a look, idk if my cable is shorting i went up to 6500rpms and it cuts off right before 6k?

http://datazap.me/u/zomb135i/log-149...15-20-21-22-27
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The stop the logging process after you have collected the appropriate amount of data...it doesn't have to be exact.
Thanks
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      07-10-2017, 05:03 PM   #1012
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Hey Folks - I hope I'm not committing heresy here...but I was hoping someone could review my datazap log with...a....COBB Stage 1+ FMIC tune (GASP!!)

http://www.datazap.me/u/watchwolf34/...ata=3-12-14-15

Just trying to get a second set of eyes to see if anything stands out as problematic or if there is some data point that I should be logging. Thanks!
You should be logging timing. But out of the items you did log everything looks good. The only thing worth pointing out is the poor quality of the COBB tune itself. You are tapering boost from a peak of 17psi down to 11psi by redline. There's no need to do that, but it's the way COBB tunes. There's a lot of room for improvement in flattening the boost curve out a bit, but without logging timing you can't really tell how well things are really working right now.
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