[matbl]

Originally Posted by Faust

So, what you're saying is that the whole current 6 Series will upgrade to 8 Series (Coupe, Convertible, Grand Coupe) and that the new 6 Series will be an entirely different family of vehicles? So no 6er GC, Coupe probably sportier, 6er GT, etc.

Still my question is what BMW will compete with the CLS?

Also, what is this? A 6er or an 8er?

If you look at the current 6 Series, it is a mix of platforms really with the 6GC being built on the 7 Series platform (F0x) and the Coupe and Convertible being built on the 5 Series platform (F1x).

BMW seems to streamline their model designations. Base models are 1, 3, 5 and 7 series. With additional models being +1 on these. So 2 series is built on the 1 series platform, 4 series on the 3 series platform and so on.
That would make a new 6GC an 8 series.
The same goes for the X platforms by the way. X4 built on X3, X6 on X5, etc.

Will there be a coupe or convertible of the G3x platform under the 6 series name? No idea.
So far I've only heard of the G32 as the 6GT to replace the current 5GT (which by the way is really a 7 series car as is evident by the F07 designation)
But why is not the 3GT a 4GT then? No idea there either...

[coo-pey]

Patiently awaiting the Z upgrade/replacement announcement. 2 seats FTW! (or at least while I'm still youngish.)

[farmaceutica75]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

There will be a different chassis code. But it is too early to advise what it will come with or what time frame but possibly around eighteen months as before. Rest assured the upcoming G30 based F90 M5 will provide some clues to the progression of the next M3/M4.

are we talking 4WD with optional 100%RWD drift mode?

and one more thing: can we expect a F80 M3 CS/CRT...?
(and if so ... when? limited?)
i mean the hard-core-petrol-head-drive-the-kids-to-school-sideways-in-a-cloud-of-smoke GTS-like version of the normal double LCIed competition M3

[V-Eight]

SCOTT26

Will (the upcoming M3) be offered with the manual transmission? Can we expect it to be on sale in 2019 or 2020?

[V-Eight]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

* Production codes for the next 1 and 2: F40, F41, G42, G43, F44. I wonder why the coupe and the convertible are G while the rest are F...

This proove that the new 2 serie coupé/convettible will be based on the 35up Platform (with a specific variant).

For the future, every chassis coded with the F (except the new M5) will means that are FWD based; on the other hand when you'll see the Gcode before the chassis number, means RWD based. That's what I know.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by V-Eight

This proove that the new 2 serie coupé/convettible will be based on the 35up Platform (with a specific variant).

Yep. We touched on that when he first posted:

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...&postcount=948

However, as I noted, theoretically it could be any RWD platform.

For the future, every chassis coded with the F (except the new M5) will means that are FWD based; on the other hand when you'll see the Gcode before the chassis number, means RWD based. That's what I know.

Exactly. Though in addition to the F90 M5, there will be the F97 X3 M and F98 X4 M. There may be others yet too. But for all non-M CLAR vehicles, yes, they will be Gxx.

[SCOTT26]

Originally Posted by V-Eight

SCOTT26

Will (the upcoming M3) be offered with the manual transmission? Can we expect it to be on sale in 2019 or 2020?

I have no immediate update on the next generation M3/M4 just that there will be in the next generation series. BMW did say that manuals will continue to be offered on the M2,M3 and M4. But were done for the M5 and upwards.
At the moment M5 is in its advanced stage of development and the X3 M is in progress but I hear the M5 is phenomenal. And the X3 M in its early stages of development is impressive.
I will hopefully soon get behind the wheel of the X2 M35i I have heard it is an amazing "gym" bag.

[V-Eight]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

I have no immediate update on the next generation M3/M4 just that there will be in the next generation series. BMW did say that manuals will continue to be offered on the M2,M3 and M4. But were done for the M5 and upwards.
At the moment M5 is in its advanced stage of development and the X3 M is in progress but I hear the M5 is phenomenal. And the X3 M in its early stages of development is impressive.
I will hopefully soon get behind the wheel of the X2 M35i I have heard it is an amazing "gym" bag.

Thanks a lot! So the new M2 will be certainly offered with the manual!

[ynguldyn]

Added a bunch of EOP/SOP dates from a new untested source.

[BimmerMat135]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Added a bunch of EOP/SOP dates from a new untested source.

A re-engined 530i, 540i and M550xi could we see a 4cyl in the 540i and a 6 cyl in the 550i?

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

A re-engined 530i, 540i and M550xi could we see a 4cyl in the 540i and a 6 cyl in the 550i?

Very unlikely. I suspect an updated B58 in the 540i and the new 4L V8 in the 550i.

The upcoming 540e will give you I6-like power from four cylinders with the help of eDrive, and there are hints at a 550e with V8-like power from six cylinders with the help of eDrive sometime in the next few years as well.

[JorgenM]

Thanks. Excited about the LCI i3. Hopefully more BEV news coming soon

[ynguldyn]

540e will upgrade on 530e by using the 530i engine on the gas side vs. 520i like 530e does.

Or, in other words, 530e = 520i + electric motor, and 540e = 530i + electric motor.

[CalCarNut]

Production moving to Mexico for the 4GT doesn't sound very appealing (to me). Have there been any leaked pix/drawings out for this model? There already is the X4M...so one has to ask..'why a 4GT'?

[raysspl]

Looking fwd to more diesel variants here stateside

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by CalCarNut

Production moving to Mexico for the 4GT doesn't sound very appealing (to me). Have there been any leaked pix/drawings out for this model? There already is the X4M...so one has to ask..'why a 4GT'?

There's a clear difference between F34 and F26. If G24 (or G26?) design moves in the direction of F36, there will be even less shared consumer interest between it and G02. Moreover, international markets still prefer cars to SUVs.

[stvding]

I have my eyes on G01 X3 30xi and G20 M340i rwd!!! Haha

[CalCarNut]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

There's a clear difference between F34 and F26. If G24 (or G26?) design moves in the direction of F36, there will be even less shared consumer interest between it and G02. Moreover, international markets still prefer cars to SUVs.

I suppose...but still. And Mexico production? I'm sorry..just not appealing for a German car...regardless if the machines/robots are the same ones,etc. Unfortunately, the stigma is still there. And no, I'd prefer not to buy any car built there..regardless of manufacturer.

[Gonven]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

540e will upgrade on 530e by using the 530i engine on the gas side vs. 520i like 530e does.

Or, in other words, 530e = 520i + electric motor, and 540e = 530i + electric motor.

First off all thanks for your great effort to give us the last news about BMW models
Im just wondering if you know when we start see more often the X3M.

[FSociety]

Originally Posted by Gonven

First off all thanks for your great effort to give us the last news about BMW models
Im just wondering if you know when we start see more often the X3M.

+1

Looking forward to the F97 X3M and F98 X4M

[nanceman]

Well, with SOP confirmation on the G20, I'm debating whether I lease a 340i F30 in June 2018 when my lease is up and wait until 2021 to finally get in a G20 or buy a 2016 CPO B8.5 S4 as a change of pace then be free to order whenever I feel like making the switch.

[scoobysaurus]

Originally Posted by matbl

If you look at the current 6 Series, it is a mix of platforms really with the 6GC being built on the 7 Series platform (F0x) and the Coupe and Convertible being built on the 5 Series platform (F1x).

BMW seems to streamline their model designations. Base models are 1, 3, 5 and 7 series. With additional models being +1 on these. So 2 series is built on the 1 series platform, 4 series on the 3 series platform and so on.
That would make a new 6GC an 8 series.
The same goes for the X platforms by the way. X4 built on X3, X6 on X5, etc.

Will there be a coupe or convertible of the G3x platform under the 6 series name? No idea.
So far I've only heard of the G32 as the 6GT to replace the current 5GT (which by the way is really a 7 series car as is evident by the F07 designation)
But why is not the 3GT a 4GT then? No idea there either...

You're right about the 5GT but the GranCoupe is basically a coupe that's been stretched about 4.4 inches. It isn't any 'closer' to a 7er than a coupe or convertible except for the number of doors.