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      08-27-2015, 04:04 PM   #89
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Our $3900 offering is intended to compete with the "stg2 super plus evo pure killa v2.1 EK PK+" turbos out there

The 680whp results were easy to hit. Strap down an AT car with a meth kit. Turn it up to 30psi, bingo! 680whp. There was no extensive tweaking.

These other guys that are getting close to 700 with their Port Injection MT cars, literally have the car sitting on the dyno, tweaking and tuning over and over to try and squeeze this power out. Which means their customers are going to have a hard time reaching those levels without all the same tweaking and tuning.

Our turbos always come fully optioned. If you check the competitors pricing, click all the options to compare with our turbos, theirs come in at $4000-$4400.
The new results after fixing the boost leak are promising. These will humiliate "stg2 super plus evo pure killa v2.1 EK PK+" by being a smarter overall design rather than doing every single trick to get a bad design to deliver.
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I'm very much interested in vbox data to show performance. Every other day we get to see nice dyno graphs from different setups and that's awesome. How well does this setup perform on the street, 60-130mph etc.? Would be something else if u posted that since the competition do not.
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      08-27-2015, 08:17 PM   #91
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I'm very much interested in vbox data to show performance. Every other day we get to see nice dyno graphs from different setups and that's awesome. How well does this setup perform on the street, 60-130mph etc.? Would be something else if u posted that since the competition do not.
I'll have some 60-130 times soon and there is also two half mile events coming up in October/November so plenty of kill videos to come
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The new results after fixing the boost leak are promising. These will humiliate "stg2 super plus evo pure killa v2.1 EK PK+" by being a smarter overall design rather than doing every single trick to get a bad design to deliver.
Nothing wrong with a little healthy competition
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      08-28-2015, 02:17 AM   #93
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Our $3900 offering is intended to compete with the "stg2 super plus evo pure killa v2.1 EK PK+" turbos out there

The 680whp results were easy to hit. Strap down an AT car with a meth kit. Turn it up to 30psi, bingo! 680whp. There was no extensive tweaking.

These other guys that are getting close to 700 with their Port Injection MT cars, literally have the car sitting on the dyno, tweaking and tuning over and over to try and squeeze this power out. Which means their customers are going to have a hard time reaching those levels without all the same tweaking and tuning.

Our turbos always come fully optioned. If you check the competitors pricing, click all the options to compare with our turbos, theirs come in at $4000-$4400.

How is the AT holding up at those power levels?
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      08-28-2015, 10:01 AM   #94
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any modifications/upgrades done to the AT to hold there power levels?
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      08-28-2015, 12:47 PM   #95
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Is 28-30 psi safe for upgraded twins? Never seen boost pushed that high besides on single turbo....is that just a kill mode map?
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How is the AT holding up at those power levels?
On the dyno fine. I run my car just North of 600rw on the streets with no issues yet.

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any modifications/upgrades done to the AT to hold there power levels?
Just a BMS flash using MHD to allow the DME to see boost up to 21psi.

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Is 28-30 psi safe for upgraded twins? Never seen boost pushed that high besides on single turbo....is that just a kill mode map?
It is safe. These twins can handle 30psi to redline with no issues.
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How is the AT holding up at those power levels?
On the dyno fine. I run my car just North of 600rw on the streets with no issues yet.

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any modifications/upgrades done to the AT to hold there power levels?
Just a BMS flash using MHD to allow the DME to see boost up to 21psi.

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Is 28-30 psi safe for upgraded twins? Never seen boost pushed that high besides on single turbo....is that just a kill mode map?
It is safe. These twins can handle 30psi to redline with no issues.
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How is the AT holding up at those power levels?
On the dyno fine. I run my car just North of 600rw on the streets with no issues yet.

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any modifications/upgrades done to the AT to hold there power levels?
Just a BMS flash using MHD to allow the DME to see boost up to 21psi.

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Is 28-30 psi safe for upgraded twins? Never seen boost pushed that high besides on single turbo....is that just a kill mode map?
It is safe. These twins can handle 30psi to redline with no issues.
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Pure let me know when you offer these for sale. I will be shooting for the e90 records and would love to have your turbos to do it with.
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My 335i @25psi vs 14' GTR FBO E85

Went on a 70 mile run yesterday with a bunch of exotic cars and had the chance to run a 14' GTR track edition that was FBO on E85 and stock turbos (told me 650whp). My car was on 19psi in 3rd gear for traction then 25psi for 4th and 5th.

60-160mph - I got a half second head start yes I know
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Went on a 70 mile run yesterday with a bunch of exotic cars and had the chance to run a 14' GTR track edition that was FBO on E85 and stock turbos (told me 650whp). My car was on 19psi in 3rd gear for traction then 25psi for 4th and 5th.

60-160mph - I got a half second head start yes I know
I like how the passengers goes, "his car is fasssst!" lol. Great run man! Don't matter if you had a half second head starts, still an ass whooping in my books lol.
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Damn!!!! Impressive.
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Went on a 70 mile run yesterday with a bunch of exotic cars and had the chance to run a 14' GTR track edition that was FBO on E85 and stock turbos (told me 650whp). My car was on 19psi in 3rd gear for traction then 25psi for 4th and 5th.

60-160mph - I got a half second head start yes I know
This car DELIVERS

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These are awesome results. Pretty sure my turbos are on their way out as the wastegate rattling is getting even worse. Will definitely look to these as an option when the time comes.
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Impressive indeed. Def interested in a group buy. Curious if level 10 upgrade would be required or recommended. I know some members stated above it held up well at those power levels. But I've also heard of certain AT's giving out at 500whp+
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Impressive indeed. Def interested in a group buy. Curious if level 10 upgrade would be required or recommended. I know some members stated above it held up well at those power levels. But I've also heard of certain AT's giving out at 500whp+
Most of the automatics that gave out were using the old BB flashing program which only allowed the DME to see 13psi. With MHD, the DME sees up to 21psi which is really helping with shifts. I've been having zero issues (knock on wood) since Pure stage 2. My buddy who has a single turbo N54 was previously using BB and would get DSC malfunctions regularly but is now using MHD and told me he has noticed a substantial difference in shifting and hasn't had any problems since. I would recommend upgrading your torque converter and valve body.
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Impressive indeed. Def interested in a group buy. Curious if level 10 upgrade would be required or recommended. I know some members stated above it held up well at those power levels. But I've also heard of certain AT's giving out at 500whp+
Most of the automatics that gave out were using the old BB flashing program which only allowed the DME to see 13psi. With MHD, the DME sees up to 21psi which is really helping with shifts. I've been having zero issues (knock on wood) since Pure stage 2. My buddy who has a single turbo N54 was previously using BB and would get DSC malfunctions regularly but is now using MHD and told me he has noticed a substantial difference in shifting and hasn't had any problems since. I would recommend upgrading your torque converter and valve body.
Thanks for the input! Curious I'm fbo and just running jb4. Can I just go ahead and run the MHD flash or do I need the bms backend flash first? Also, any suggestions as to where I could get the valve body and TC? I'm excited about these stage 2's. Hopefully they go into production soon
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Impressive indeed. Def interested in a group buy. Curious if level 10 upgrade would be required or recommended. I know some members stated above it held up well at those power levels. But I've also heard of certain AT's giving out at 500whp+
Most of the automatics that gave out were using the old BB flashing program which only allowed the DME to see 13psi. With MHD, the DME sees up to 21psi which is really helping with shifts. I've been having zero issues (knock on wood) since Pure stage 2. My buddy who has a single turbo N54 was previously using BB and would get DSC malfunctions regularly but is now using MHD and told me he has noticed a substantial difference in shifting and hasn't had any problems since. I would recommend upgrading your torque converter and valve body.
Thanks for the input! Curious I'm fbo and just running jb4. Can I just go ahead and run the MHD flash or do I need the bms backend flash first? Also, any suggestions as to where I could get the valve body and TC? I'm excited about these stage 2's. Hopefully they go into production soon
Use MHD to flash a BMS file (pump gas, race gas or E85). Once you flash one of these files you then need to change your JB4 steering wheel controls from 4/3 to 4/2 (4 being speedometer side. The 3 and 2 being the tachometer side). This changes this JB4 settings so that it now knows you are running a back end flash. You'll also want to make sure you're running the latest JB4 firmware. Once you make sure you are running the latest firmware, connect your JB4 to the JB4 interface (laptop or mobile device if you purchased the kit) and make sure your "duty bias" settings are at 0.

You can either order the tq converter/valve body from lvl 10 and have a local shop do the install or you can send your transmission to lvl 10 and let them do the install (not the cheapest route). I did hear of one other shop releasing these parts but I can't remember the name at the moment.

Pure stage 2 will be released any day now. You can place your order now which will beat a lot of people to it.
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Impressive indeed. Def interested in a group buy. Curious if level 10 upgrade would be required or recommended. I know some members stated above it held up well at those power levels. But I've also heard of certain AT's giving out at 500whp+
Most of the automatics that gave out were using the old BB flashing program which only allowed the DME to see 13psi. With MHD, the DME sees up to 21psi which is really helping with shifts. I've been having zero issues (knock on wood) since Pure stage 2. My buddy who has a single turbo N54 was previously using BB and would get DSC malfunctions regularly but is now using MHD and told me he has noticed a substantial difference in shifting and hasn't had any problems since. I would recommend upgrading your torque converter and valve body.
Thanks for the input! Curious I'm fbo and just running jb4. Can I just go ahead and run the MHD flash or do I need the bms backend flash first? Also, any suggestions as to where I could get the valve body and TC? I'm excited about these stage 2's. Hopefully they go into production soon
Use MHD to flash a BMS file (pump gas, race gas or E85). Once you flash one of these files you then need to change your JB4 steering wheel controls from 4/3 to 4/2 (4 being speedometer side. The 3 and 2 being the tachometer side). This changes this JB4 settings so that it now knows you are running a back end flash. You'll also want to make sure you're running the latest JB4 firmware. Once you make sure you are running the latest firmware, connect your JB4 to the JB4 interface (laptop or mobile device if you purchased the kit) and make sure your "duty bias" settings are at 0.

You can either order the tq converter/valve body from lvl 10 and have a local shop do the install or you can send your transmission to lvl 10 and let them do the install (not the cheapest route). I did hear of one other shop releasing these parts but I can't remember the name at the moment.

Pure stage 2 will be released any day now. You can place your order now which will beat a lot of people to it.
Awesome. Thanks for all the info. Who's the point of contact to place an order?
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Nice numbers but with stage 2s that's pretty slow boost to get full torque unless that was intentional tune wise. Just saying that some single turbos spool faster than those dyno numbers.
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