Takata airbag recall woes catch up with BMW... sigh...

LuisBoston · 02-17-2016, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by m3m3mr

Does this mean when you get the letter you can demand a free loaner even if parts aren't available yet?

I agree - I don't want to drive a car whose safety device could possibly kill me.

I'm getting a loaner tomorrow. I am going to demand keeping it until airbag replaced.

UltimateBMWfan · 02-17-2016, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tr1ppy

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Originally Posted by UltimateBMWfan

Since it's a worldwide recall now, just bring it to your local dealer. (I'm in the same boat as you.)

So is the UK affected by this recall?

Thanks

Should be. I'd contact BMW UK just to check if I were you.

overdrivex · 02-17-2016, 03:29 PM

Oh. Wonderful. My car is affected.

PopsnBurbles · 02-17-2016, 07:23 PM

Are (2012) E89 Z4's not included or were they just not mentioned?

bmw1racer · 02-18-2016, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by LuisSF

I agree - I don't want to drive a car whose safety device could possibly kill me.

I'm getting a loaner tomorrow. I am going to demand keeping it until airbag replaced.

Saw a report on the news a day or two ago about a guy with a Ford Mustang GT350 who hasn't driven his car for nearly a year waiting for Ford to get and install a new airbag... So he's been paying off a loan on a car that he can't drive.

Frozen · 02-18-2016, 01:27 AM

I called my service center. Peter Pan BMW in the SF Bay Area. They said they do not have the parts to do the airbag recall at this time but I would be contacted when they do.

Then they told me adamately DO NOT SELL THE CAR until the recall is complete. I asked if I should drive it and they said that is up to me but just not to sell it lol.

LuisBoston · 02-18-2016, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bmw1racer

Saw a report on the news a day or two ago about a guy with a Ford Mustang GT350 who hasn't driven his car for nearly a year waiting for Ford to get and install a new airbag... So he's been paying off a loan on a car that he can't drive.

If my car doesn't get driven for a year that means I can put miles on the loaner instead. Also, since I have their car maybe they'll move mine up the list.

W/// · 02-19-2016, 08:50 AM

So what's everyone's thought on driving their cars? Has anyone successfully gotten a loaner from BMW?

According to the website, this is their stance on it:
Q10. Can I continue to drive my vehicle?
Yes. BMW is not aware of a ruptured inflator in any of its vehicles associated with this recall.
However, when you receive a letter asking you to have this service performed by an authorized
BMW center, please do so as soon as possible. If you are not the only driver of this vehicle,
please advise all other drivers of this important information.

I wouldn't mind getting a loaner vehicle, but I also am hesitant to leave the car at the dealership for that long (mine is always garaged and on a battery tender ect ect...)

bmw1racer · 02-19-2016, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by W///

I wouldn't mind getting a loaner vehicle, but I also am hesitant to leave the car at the dealership for that long (mine is always garaged and on a battery tender ect ect...)

Same here.

The less time my car spends at the dealership, the better.

Frozen · 02-19-2016, 12:21 PM

Like I said they told me if I want to drive it, it's up to me but for me not to sell it.

Konklej · 02-19-2016, 12:43 PM

Darrrrrnnnn yooouuuuu takata!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was slated to pick up a CPO 135i this weekend. Dealership called me to inform me that they cannot sell the car until its fixed. I know takata ramped production from 100k per month to nearly a million a month, but I'm curious as to how long the wait may be. I have borrowed my dad's truck (extra vehicle), but if its going to be 6 months I'm going to have to go purchase a different car.
The only thing that I have going for me is that the car is located in Georgia - which is within the top priority zone for replacement.
What a complete bummer.

SpeedBuggy · 02-19-2016, 09:05 PM

Two of the three of ours are affected. Our 325i is not affected while our 330i and 328xi are.

Having been thru a recall on our Ford for an airbag related issue, took approximately a year from official notification of recall to notification that parts were available.

I do wander how a recall of this magnitude is handled as far as official notification and notification of parts availability. Does BMW notify sequentially by VIN, and when parts do come in I'm sure it is first come first serve basis.

Just hoping that the recall notice for parts availability arrives at the same time for both cars so that I can schedule the repair at the same time.

Three Pedal Steve · 02-19-2016, 10:49 PM

So how many cars currently in production are subject to Takata recall.

This issue has been around for three years. The industry should have stopped production as soon as the possible problem emerged.

Oh yea, I forgot- the stockholders might have fired the Board.

tdott · 02-20-2016, 08:56 AM

How do they know to contact you if you aren't the original owner?

My car was a US car imported to Canada. Now it's back in FL but I haven't changed over the plates yet. Still have Ontario plates. Do I just goto the dealer? I doubt they have my info to send me a letter.

330iToy · 02-20-2016, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by doogee

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I wonder why not a new steering wheel? You have to destroy the wheel to remove the airbag? You punch 2 holes in the back of the wheel to remove the airbag? Seems since my steering wheel will be damaged it should be replaced as well.

If someone damages your steering wheel removing the airbag, they're doing something very wrong! The holes are already there.

No you actually have to poke the holes in the steering wheels. If you ever replaced your wheel on a current BMW you would understand what I am referencing.

330iToy · 02-20-2016, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by W///

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Originally Posted by 330iToy

I wonder why not a new steering wheel? You have to destroy the wheel to remove the airbag? You punch 2 holes in the back of the wheel to remove the airbag? Seems since my steering wheel will be damaged it should be replaced as well.

The holes are already there. Not sure what you mean you are destroying the steering wheel to take out airbag.

It would be a good time to replace the steering wheel trim though. Mine is peeling bad.

On my 2011 M3 E90 I replaced the standard M3 wheel with the performance wheel. You actually have to put two holes in the back of the steering wheel to release the clips that hold the air bag to the steering wheel. The holes are covered. Just do a research on removing an E90 steering wheel and you will understand what I am talking about.

Suprgnat · 02-20-2016, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by LuisSF

I agree - I don't want to drive a car whose safety device could possibly kill me.

I'm getting a loaner tomorrow. I am going to demand keeping it until airbag replaced.

So what did they give you for a loaner?

Three Pedal Steve · 02-22-2016, 11:38 PM

BTW, Takata is still supplying the automotive industry with ammonium nitrate propellant airbags through 2018 with permission from NHTSA with the condition that they can be recalled or demonstrated safe by 2019.

According to Reuters on Feb 22, 2016- In addition to the current 30 million vehicles recalled so far, there may be as many as 120 million more to come. Takata airbag equipped vehicles from 2000-2105 model years total 260 to 285 million units.

This is a very big problem!

LuisBoston · 02-23-2016, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Suprgnat

So what did they give you for a loaner?

328i

MightyMouseTech · 02-23-2016, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by W///

So what's everyone's thought on driving their cars? Has anyone successfully gotten a loaner from BMW?

According to the website, this is their stance on it:
Q10. Can I continue to drive my vehicle?
Yes. BMW is not aware of a ruptured inflator in any of its vehicles associated with this recall.
However, when you receive a letter asking you to have this service performed by an authorized
BMW center, please do so as soon as possible. If you are not the only driver of this vehicle,
please advise all other drivers of this important information.

I wouldn't mind getting a loaner vehicle, but I also am hesitant to leave the car at the dealership for that long (mine is always garaged and on a battery tender ect ect...)

Both of my cars are affected. Just going to drive them without concern.

WHL102 · 02-23-2016, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ZIV3R

Why you choose to be rude and not even respond to the question - is beyond me.

I never understood people like you, with a need to belittle others to make themselves feel a certain way.

Since you asked, I've been busy running a tech company and just closed a contract with an estimated contract value of half a billion. That's the rock I've been under.

I prefer to get my news from kind enthusiasts that have shared passions as they relate to my daily drivers - my M3, M5, X5M and 750i.

You, sir, don't seem to be a kind enthusiast. The response I got from true member on this thread was the perfect cliff notes response I was looking for.

Now, please politely piss off.

Whoaaaaaa, I am sorry! That is not how I meant that to be construed.

I was just poking a little fun at your expense because, to be fair, that was a pretty big one to miss! It has been covered by practically every news outlet, globally if I'm not mistaken, for over a year. To be honest, I thought that once you learned what you had missed you would have a "eureka" moment and have a little chuckle wondering how in the world you could have missed that one...

IMHO, your reply was an poignant example of being rude and belittling... But I get why you said it and I hope I've cleared things up. I didn't make that comment to make my prick hard. I promise.

Congratulations on closing your deal and finally coming out from under that rock!

WHL102 · 02-23-2016, 06:05 PM

Back to the subject at hand...

Is there a comprehensive list of new vehicles that are using Takata inflators? Excuse me while I put on my tin foil hat, but I'd like to avoid them if possible. I will probably be in the market for a new car in 3-4 months, which I'd like to tell myself I'll keep for 5+ years, so this is an area of concern for me. I assume it will take quite some time to phase out the ammonium nitrate propellant?

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Frozen Captain 603 Rep 853 Posts Drives: Frozen Red e92 ZCP Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: SF Bay Area iTrader: (0)	I called my service center. Peter Pan BMW in the SF Bay Area. They said they do not have the parts to do the airbag recall at this time but I would be contacted when they do. Then they told me adamately DO NOT SELL THE CAR until the recall is complete. I asked if I should drive it and they said that is up to me but just not to sell it lol.
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W/// Lieutenant General 8033 Rep 12,528 Posts Drives: F82GTS, E36/E92M3, Z4M Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: SC iTrader: (13)	So what's everyone's thought on driving their cars? Has anyone successfully gotten a loaner from BMW? According to the website, this is their stance on it: Q10. Can I continue to drive my vehicle? Yes. BMW is not aware of a ruptured inflator in any of its vehicles associated with this recall. However, when you receive a letter asking you to have this service performed by an authorized BMW center, please do so as soon as possible. If you are not the only driver of this vehicle, please advise all other drivers of this important information. I wouldn't mind getting a loaner vehicle, but I also am hesitant to leave the car at the dealership for that long (mine is always garaged and on a battery tender ect ect...) __________________ Current: 16 F82 M4 GTS, Black Sapphire/Black, DCT 08 E92 M3, Sparkling Graphite/Bamboo Beige, 6MT 07 E85 Z4M Roadster, Alpine White/Red, 6MT 99 E36 M3, Techno Violet/Dove Grey, 6MT
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Konklej New Member 0 Rep 11 Posts Drives: 2013 135i M Sport Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Ann Arbor, MI iTrader: (0)	Darrrrrnnnn yooouuuuu takata!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was slated to pick up a CPO 135i this weekend. Dealership called me to inform me that they cannot sell the car until its fixed. I know takata ramped production from 100k per month to nearly a million a month, but I'm curious as to how long the wait may be. I have borrowed my dad's truck (extra vehicle), but if its going to be 6 months I'm going to have to go purchase a different car. The only thing that I have going for me is that the car is located in Georgia - which is within the top priority zone for replacement. What a complete bummer.
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Three Pedal Steve Captain 947 Rep 621 Posts Drives: 2013 M3 coupe' 6mt Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Under a Waterfall in Highlands NC iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 BMW M3 Coupe [0.00]	So how many cars currently in production are subject to Takata recall. This issue has been around for three years. The industry should have stopped production as soon as the possible problem emerged. Oh yea, I forgot- the stockholders might have fired the Board. __________________ memories: '71 2002 (new), '72 Bavaria, '74 2002tii, '00 540i Sport
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