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      07-16-2008, 12:31 PM   #89
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Hrmm, been running the new firmware and maps for a couple of days now. While it is smooth, I am not sure I am in agreement with the boost to throttle mapping; it may be a bit too aggressive for me. There is more boost with less throttle than the previous iteration leaving little to nothing left when 100% throttle is applied.
I agree. I hate it when you press the pedal the last 1/3 of the way and the car does not accelerate any faster. Its a fun to drive map though.
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Thanks for the feedback... I'll look into the throttle/boost mapping and perhaps slow it down a bit. Maybe offer two versions of the map so people can run what they prefer :

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Thanks for the feedback... I'll look into the throttle/boost mapping and perhaps slow it down a bit. Maybe offer two versions of the map so people can run what they prefer :

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I like the two versions, because personally I never plan to go full throttle. I would prefer more boost earlier.
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Thanks for the feedback... I'll look into the throttle/boost mapping and perhaps slow it down a bit. Maybe offer two versions of the map so people can run what they prefer :

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I like the two versions, because personally I never plan to go full throttle. I would prefer more boost earlier.
+1 I like this map!

Sorry if this is a noob question but, does this map affect mpg more than if you had low boost map?
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      07-16-2008, 12:59 PM   #94
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+1 I like this map!

Sorry if this is a noob question but, does this map affect mpg more than if you had low boost map?
Depends, if you are accustomed to always applying say 1/3 throttle from a stop, milage will go down due to more boost being run. But honestly you would be splitting hairs as the difference would be minimal.
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I like the two versions, because personally I never plan to go full throttle. I would prefer more boost earlier.
I guess I do not understand. You would like full load at part throttle? That leaves a little to be said for overall controlability. I am sure Shiv could give you 15 PSI at 25% throttle.
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I guess I do not understand. You would like full load at part throttle? That leaves a little to be said for overall controlability. I am sure Shiv could give you 15 PSI at 25% throttle.
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I guess I do not understand. You would like full load at part throttle? That leaves a little to be said for overall controlability. I am sure Shiv could give you 15 PSI at 25% throttle.
I'm speculating. I don't even have my 335 yet. Maybe I'm extrapolating too much with regards to being "dead" in the early throttle part. I just don't want that.
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I'm speculating. I don't even have my 335 yet. Maybe I'm extrapolating too much with regards to being "dead" in the early throttle part. I just don't want that.
Gotcha, there is no first version Dinan response here. The vehicle responds imediately when throttle is provoked. The question is how much boost to throttle is desired. IMO, I liked the previous version which responded similar to the following assuming 15 PSI max.

25% Throttle = 5 PSI
50% Throttle = 10 PSI
75% Throttle = 12.5 PSI
100% Throttle = 15 PSI

This may not be exact but gives an idea.
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Gotcha, there is no first version Dinan response here. The vehicle responds imediately when throttle is provoked. The question is how much boost to throttle is desired. IMO, I liked the previous version which responded similar to the following assuming 15 PSI max.

25% Throttle = 5 PSI
50% Throttle = 10 PSI
75% Throttle = 12.5 PSI
100% Throttle = 15 PSI

This may not be exact but gives an idea.
At all %'s in the throttle, does it still exceed the stock psi? For example, what would the stock psi be at 25% throttle in your example? I probably have to drive it myself, but I can see what you are saying. You want to control the car more. I just don't want to compromise that with the car being "stock-like" during the first 50% of throttle. In other words, I want to know its tuned when I'm driving it.
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as soon as I get my flat tire fixed I'll test these maps out....looking forward to it.

Nothing like having a flat tire, limping to a gas station on the last bit of air to find the cheap ass owner doesnt have/want an air pump at the station. Finally get back to your car w/ an air pump, inflate the tire, drive home to remove the tire only to have your brand new jack dump all its hydraulic fluid all over the garage and fail..........................................blah hhhhhhhhhhh

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At all %'s in the throttle, does it still exceed the stock psi? For example, what would the stock psi be at 25% throttle in your example? I probably have to drive it myself, but I can see what you are saying. You want to control the car more. I just don't want to compromise that with the car being "stock-like" during the first 50% of throttle. In other words, I want to know its tuned when I'm driving it.
At 25% throttle, a stock car would be making about 2 PSI. At 50% throttle, the stock vehicle would be making about 4 PSI, etc. So part throttle feel is certainly there. V3 half throttle is stronger than full throttle stock; just for reference.
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At 25% throttle, a stock car would be making about 2 PSI. At 50% throttle, the stock vehicle would be making about 4 PSI, etc. So part throttle feel is certainly there. V3 half throttle is stronger than full throttle stock; just for reference.
Exactly what I wanted to know. Thank you very very much!
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i've noticed this recently and im' not sure if it's only my car so please share your experiences. yesterday and today I did a few highway pulls from about 40 mph from 5th or 6th in manual mode in tiptronic but the car wouldn't downshift automatically like it used to when I hit the kick down. Did this new firmware or map somehow disable this feature?
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i've noticed this recently and im' not sure if it's only my car so please share your experiences. yesterday and today I did a few highway pulls from about 40 mph from 5th or 6th in manual mode in tiptronic but the car wouldn't downshift automatically like it used to when I hit the kick down. Did this new firmware or map somehow disable this feature?
Nope. Neither the firmware nor map can possibly disable that feature.

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Sweet Holy Mother of Christ!

Turbosquid and I installed V3 today with the beta firmware and file.

Installation was a breeze and, oh boy, am I glad that this latest iteration retains the smoothness of V2 while giving back the demoniac "kick in the xxx" of V1.47!

No error, no code, just a nicely purring engine that will push your eyeballs way back into their sockets in any gear as soon as you put the pedal to the metal.
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Not to be a party pooper (I'm glad there are beta maps out), but I hope the firmware for map switching is a priority. Us Doomsday guys have a 1-2 psi difference between Map 1 and Map 2. Plus, pulling over to re-start to activate a map when in valet mode is getting old. Until there is more power in Map 2 (or make less in Map 1?) and the ability to activate PROcede maps when in valet mode, the map switching feature is not useful.
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Nope. Neither the firmware nor map can possibly disable that feature.

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could it be anything to do with procede and monitoring accel pedal angles? the car throws no codes and i can't see how the kickdown just got disabled. thanks
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Not to be a party pooper (I'm glad there are beta maps out), but I hope the firmware for map switching is a priority. Us Doomsday guys have a 1-2 psi difference between Map 1 and Map 2. Plus, pulling over to re-start to activate a map when in valet mode is getting old. Until there is more power in Map 2 (or make less in Map 1?) and the ability to activate PROcede maps when in valet mode, the map switching feature is not useful.
Hmm - I didn't think anyone used valet mode that much. Personally I have never tried it... Switching from the current beta maps' doomsday (map 1 reduced power) to non-doomsday (map 2 full power) works great while driving, and when you're datalogging, you can see the map number change on the PROcede Reader dashboard.....
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Hmm - I didn't think anyone used valet mode that much. Personally I have never tried it... Switching from the current beta maps' doomsday (map 1 reduced power) to non-doomsday (map 2 full power) works great while driving, and when you're datalogging, you can see the map number change on the PROcede Reader dashboard.....
You should try valet...it's slightly better than stock. And 29.2/v81 car <edit> owners choose to not use the non-doomsday full power map for fear of warranty void code.

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