[BS_CS]

Originally Posted by GenXer

Be sure to get air suspension. Those 20" wheels ride like crap in a full size GM SUV.

Looks good but rough riding.

Looking at the AT4 model so we'll be good to go there. Thanks for the advice

[Tacoma]

Originally Posted by joshuastein55

Never been a fan of Audi's. I love the looks, but the touchscreen interior is a big no for me (OCD+Gloss black and a lack of physical buttons don't mix well), and in typical Audi fashion, the engine will be too far forward and it will understeer.

I love the current E63S more than the M5 so the wagon is just the icing on the cake. Add on top that AMG engines sound better, has a RWD drift mode, and the car as a whole is more understated than the RS6, and I prefer the classy looks, its definitely my choice.

I'm gonna try to check out the RS6 when it comes out, but in the end I think I'd prefer an E63S, plus the rumors for the RS6 is that they'll be limiting sales/production.

The Benz looks like any other Benz of the past 10 years while the Audi looks mean, menacing and amazing. Never been a fan of either but RS6 over E63S and it's not even close.

2020 E63S AMG Wagon:


2020 RS6 Avant:

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by Tacoma

The Benz looks like any other Benz of the past 10 years while the Audi looks mean, menacing and amazing. Never been a fan of either but RS6 over E63S and it's not even close.

2020 E63S AMG Wagon:
[IMG]https://cdn.carbuzz.com/gallery-imag...12663-1600.jpg[/IMG]

2020 RS6 Avant:
[IMG]https://gtspirit.com/wp-content/uplo...-RS6-Avant.jpg[/IMG]

Never said I didn't care for the Audi's styling, its one of its best features. I said I don't care for the touch screen and all gloss black interior (one big deal breaker especially with my slight OCD), and I don't care for the general "Audi-ness" of it, aka, understeer and engine being too far up front, weak exhaust, lack of RWD mode, etc.

I like the way the Benz looks. Its classy and understated, I could care less if it looks like the past 10 years of Merc wagons, in my opinion its a handsome and understated vehicle, and nobody knows it has a fantastic AMG V8 under the hood unless they're a car enthusiast, plus I've driven the E63S and prefer it to that of an M5 and previous RS7, and will likely prefer it to the new RS6/7 based on reviews and would be very happy to get one, thus why it made my list, it checks off all of my boxes. Just not a fan of Audi's.

[polychromatic]

If I could justify:

[FuriouslyFast]

I have no idea what will replace the Hellcat. Everything is too expensive. Would love a C8 or even C7Z, but then I still need a new daily since I DD my Hellcat. Don't wanna daily my beat to shit 200k+ mi Acura. I'd hate that real quick. (Not that it's a bad car)

[King Rudi]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

That is high praise coming from you, good sir! I have always been concerned about their brakes but if you are saying they are good to go (well...stop), that's all I need to know.

How long have you had it, so far?

I've had this IS for close to a year now, this is the first series of car that I've owned 2 of. The first IS I bought in 2014 and had it for a few years. The only service was replacing brakes, tires and oil changes. Aside from one recall I bought it back in April. The braking is actually one of the high points of the vehicle.

[Conissah]

Originally Posted by FuriouslyFast

I have no idea what will replace the Hellcat. Everything is too expensive

RCF, Giulia Quadrifoglio, C8, Gen V Viper, GTR, GT-350 Mustang, ZL1 Camaro; a lot of good options.

[FuriouslyFast]

Originally Posted by Conissah

RCF, Giulia Quadrifoglio, C8, Gen V Viper, GTR, GT-350 Mustang, ZL1 Camaro; a lot of good options.

RC-F in orange = Good looking car, but under powered. Maybe if used are stupid cheap when I'm in the market, I'll reconsider.

Alfa = Too unreliable

C8 = Not a daily driver for PA winter. (I DD my Hellcat)

Viper = Again, too much $. No baller & not a daily.

GT-R = Hard pass. Driven a few. Just don't like em.

ZL1 = I couldn't get comfy in a 6th Gen Camaro. Maybe try again later, but when my Hellcat traps a few MPH more & has 4 doors, why would I bother?

[FuriouslyFast]

Originally Posted by Now_Rudi

I've had this IS for close to a year now, this is the first series of car that I've owned 2 of. The first IS I bought in 2014 and had it for a few years. The only service was replacing brakes, tires and oil changes. Aside from one recall I bought it back in April. The braking is actually one of the high points of the vehicle.

Can you get an older IS-F stupid cheap yet?

[King Rudi]

Originally Posted by FuriouslyFast

Can you get an older IS-F stupid cheap yet?

Assuming you are talking about the Gen2 body style IS-F 2006-2013 RWD with the 6 speed manual 5.0 V8....and no, they aren't cheap. My new(-ish) Gen3 is less expensive than a IS-F from 2008, crazy; but those are highly sought after.

Depending on mileage you're looking between $18k - 32K for an almost 10 year old model.

[Crimson92]

Originally Posted by Now_Rudi

Assuming you are talking about the Gen2 body style IS-F 2006-2013 RWD with the 6 speed manual 5.0 V8....and no, they aren't cheap. My new(-ish) Gen3 is less expensive than a IS-F from 2008, crazy; but those are highly sought after.

Depending on mileage you're looking between $18k - 32K for an almost 10 year old model.

ISF is auto only

[FuriouslyFast]

Originally Posted by Now_Rudi

Assuming you are talking about the Gen2 body style IS-F 2006-2013 RWD with the 6 speed manual 5.0 V8....and no, they aren't cheap. My new(-ish) Gen3 is less expensive than a IS-F from 2008, crazy; but those are highly sought after.

Depending on mileage you're looking between $18k - 32K for an almost 10 year old model.

Yep, that gen. $20k still? F that

No newer IS-F with a nice V8 & balls?

[Conissah]

Originally Posted by FuriouslyFast

Yep, that gen. $20k still? F that

No newer IS-F with a nice V8 & balls?

Only new V8 sedan they make would be the GSF. It's my favorite car that Lexus currently makes by far, but shares the same drivetrain as the RCF, so you will probably be disappointed.

[King Rudi]

Originally Posted by Crimson92

ISF is auto only

You're right! My bad. I personally had never seen one but thought I had read somewhere that they made a 6 speed manual but I'm wrong; 8 speed auto only.

Originally Posted by FuriouslyFast

Yep, that gen. $20k still? F that

No newer IS-F with a nice V8 & balls?

Yup. There were rumors that Lexus was going to release an IS F this year, but it got scrapped. To touch on what Conissah stated, the GS F is bad ass, it's just a bigger car all the way around. I'd love to have those seats and the larger infotainment screen in my IS.

[FuriouslyFast]

Originally Posted by Now_Rudi

You're right! My bad. I personally had never seen one but thought I had read somewhere that they made a 6 speed manual but I'm wrong; 8 speed auto only.



Yup. There were rumors that Lexus was going to release an IS F this year, but it got scrapped. To touch on what Conissah stated, the GS F is bad ass, it's just a bigger car all the way around. I'd love to have those seats and the larger infotainment screen in my IS.

I wouldn't be happy with said GS. The search continues!

[Germanauto]

Originally Posted by Now_Rudi

I've had this IS for close to a year now, this is the first series of car that I've owned 2 of. The first IS I bought in 2014 and had it for a few years. The only service was replacing brakes, tires and oil changes. Aside from one recall I bought it back in April. The braking is actually one of the high points of the vehicle.

I have a 2013 IS, final model year of the 2nd gen. Besides a dead battery when I lived in a cold state, the car has been mechanically flawless. I just do routine maintenance, no worries like with the Bimmer.

And personally I feel the refreshed 2nd gen IS has aged incredibly well. What a cleanly styled, timeless design. I also think this current 3rd gen IS has aged very well.

[KenB925]

i am beginning to consider an M5...

[ny325]

Test drove a 2020 Ram 1500 Bighorn, night edition. Nice ride, and very comfortable. I always liked pickup trucks. However, don’t need something that big. Second on the list is a 2020 Accord Sport. I’m waiting to see if Honda is going to redesign the taillights. Third, my top choice is a Audi A6. Love it’s simplicity. I think I’m leaving the BMW brand. BMW lost what once made it special, it’s driving dynamics.

[Pol]

M2 CS

[FuriouslyFast]

Originally Posted by KenB925

i am beginning to consider an M5...

Which gen? F10 seems like it might be a good buy, but any BMW out of warranty would scare me.

[KenB925]

Originally Posted by FuriouslyFast

Which gen? F10 seems like it might be a good buy, but any BMW out of warranty would scare me.

F90, there are some pretty sweet lease deals. I am afraid of almost any new car out of warranty.

The ZL1 is my work car, its replacement would be too.

[FuriouslyFast]

Originally Posted by KenB925

F90, there are some pretty sweet lease deals. I am afraid of almost any new car out of warranty.

The ZL1 is my work car, its replacement would be too.

Do you work at a race track then?

What kind of lease deals? That's why I have my HC...awesome 0 down lease deals.