AMS Performance to make products for the N54

ArmyBimmerDude · 10-12-2008, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeph

and an LSD

Thanks, I forgot to add that

ArmyBimmerDude · 10-12-2008, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by E82tt6

I know at least one racing group is in the process of developing PnP 255/275 setup for the 135i. I'd imagine some stick 275s could hold 400-450 reasonably well with a light throttle foot.

Well I guess we'll find out, but I don't have too much faith in them being able to get sustained grip with 275's. If I knew ahead of time that I was going with an AMS Turbo kit, I might widebody the rear. Need wider tires for 500rwhp. But hey, we'll see.

scollins · 10-13-2008, 12:50 AM

Here is a GREAT product suggestion for you guys, you'll sell a ton of them........

DIPSTICK RETROFIT KITS!!!!

And no, I'm not kidding either. I'd like to have one.

Eric@AMS · 10-13-2008, 10:13 AM

thank you for the great idea's guys. Please keep them coming. Our engineers here LOVE input like this and we most certainly want to get you a product that meets all of your requirements.

Eric

Sniz · 10-13-2008, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by scollins

Here is a GREAT product suggestion for you guys, you'll sell a ton of them........

DIPSTICK RETROFIT KITS!!!!

And no, I'm not kidding either. I'd like to have one.

couldnt agree more.........I hate not having a dipstick

Eric@AMS · 10-13-2008, 07:24 PM

looks like as early as monday next week we are going to be tearing into the car and we will begin the engineering process! Im super excited!

Eric

E82tt6 · 10-13-2008, 07:31 PM

Sounds good! Time to take apart an HPFP and see if there's room for porting!

PeteW84 · 10-13-2008, 09:16 PM

A reasonable priced axle back would be nice...

MuchMoore · 10-13-2008, 09:55 PM

How about an intake that doesnt look garage engineered, and performs decently?

Car Enthusiast · 10-13-2008, 11:43 PM

AMS, Welcome to the N54 world! I'm a big fan as well based on what I've seen you guys do with the Evo's. I especially enjoyed watching videos of your Evo take on all challengers on the highway and pull almost everything that bothered to show up. I'm anxious to see what you guys can do for us.

I know upgraded turbo kits have been suggested, but I'd also really like to see a lightweight turbo-back exhaust system that doesn't cost an arm, 2 legs, and 5 donkeys become available for this car. So far I've seen a lot of very expensive exhausts come out that have less than impressive gains, and also quite a few downpipes showing quite decent gains. I have confidence you guys can put together a full system that makes exceptional power with a tune.

BMW_TT · 10-13-2008, 11:51 PM

New intake manifold?

Ryan@Motorwerks · 10-14-2008, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ZHP DREI

How about an intake that doesnt look garage engineered, and performs decently?

afe???

battlehawk1025 · 10-14-2008, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by scollins

Here is a GREAT product suggestion for you guys, you'll sell a ton of them........

DIPSTICK RETROFIT KITS!!!!

And no, I'm not kidding either. I'd like to have one.

he's right you guys would sell a shit load of these i would buy 2 alone, one to install in the car and the other to throw at bmw, dumb asses

07-335XI · 10-14-2008, 09:30 AM

HPFP thats better than bmws

BES335xi · 10-14-2008, 09:33 AM

Yup HPFP. ^

flukey · 10-14-2008, 09:33 AM

PLEASE PLEASE... do not leave out the XI crowd

Sadly, most tuners do

BES335xi · 10-14-2008, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by flukey

PLEASE PLEASE... do not leave out the XI crowd

Sadly, most tuners do

Yeah man good point, DONT F*CKIN' LEAVE US OUT!!!
hahaha jk but yeah it would be great not to leave the XI crowd out.

Thanksssss

Mooreski · 10-14-2008, 09:41 AM

I see a lot of talk about changing the turbos to a large single or large double setup. Has anyone tried putting in a third small turbo? Would it give more boost with the lower lag we all knew and loved (pre 29.x)?

That's my idea for ya!

ZJP · 10-14-2008, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by scollins

Here is a GREAT product suggestion for you guys, you'll sell a ton of them........

DIPSTICK RETROFIT KITS!!!!

And no, I'm not kidding either. I'd like to have one.

That's actually a brilliant idea.

I guess I'd like to see an affordable exhaust system that doesn't drone.

Sparky66 · 10-14-2008, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mooreski

I see a lot of talk about changing the turbos to a large single or large double setup. Has anyone tried putting in a third small turbo? Would it give more boost with the lower lag we all knew and loved (pre 29.x)?

That's my idea for ya!

Tri turbo what... ??? A turbo for every two cylinders

There is barely enough room for the current two small turbo's let alone adding a third turbo......and a triple exhaust would look bizarre anyway.

Mooreski · 10-14-2008, 10:41 AM

Lol, if someone can fit a small block in a Miata, there would be room for a third turbo in a 335!!

True, triple exhaust would look bizzare, but I'm thinking it would be an easy mod to make. You'd have to redo the exhaust manifold to have 2 cyl feeding each turbo and probably the exhaust system to get everything to feed out correctly... but aren't the wastegates vacuum controlled? If you had a 3rd, identical turbo couldn't you plug it into the vacuum system the same as the others and make it work without having to overcome any electronic hurdles?

Tell me if I'm wrong, all these ideas were dreamed up in the isolation of my head. I'm probably missing something here!

Zeph · 10-14-2008, 10:44 AM

Very slightly larger twins would be great for an efficient 400-450 rwhp car for the track with still little to no lag (assuming the wastegate issue introduced in 29.2 is resolved). You could even have a higher boost mode for 500'ish rwhp or so if needed for certain applications (like a drag/highway race). I guess the daily driver would stay with twins too, honestly if you aren't gonna race just pop on an SSTT and go cosmetic from there.

I think the single turbo option is gonna be the best straight-line racing option, with a larger single turbo to make 600+ rwhp (really the sky is the limit here, how fat is your wallet?). With a single I think you can really free up some space in the engine bay and have better cooling and efficiency. Downside obviously is gonna be some low end lag, not really a problem if you keep the RPM's higher. This can actually help launch the car in 1st gear which is the only gear you will ever see low RPM's in a straight-line race.

I can only assume most tuners would come out with upgraded twins first, since less changes to the car would have to be made. Once you go single, now you are basically re-designing the entire intake/exhaust systems.

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Eric@AMS Captain 74 Rep 726 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: West Chicago, IL iTrader: (5)	thank you for the great idea's guys. Please keep them coming. Our engineers here LOVE input like this and we most certainly want to get you a product that meets all of your requirements. Eric
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Eric@AMS Captain 74 Rep 726 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: West Chicago, IL iTrader: (5)	looks like as early as monday next week we are going to be tearing into the car and we will begin the engineering process! Im super excited! Eric
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E82tt6 Colonel 109 Rep 2,626 Posts Drives: '08 Black Saphire Z4 MC Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	Sounds good! Time to take apart an HPFP and see if there's room for porting! __________________ '08 Black Saphire/Black Z4 M Coupe RIP Gretta: Blue Water/Lemon 135i. Died to save me. -ChuckV
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Car Enthusiast Private 1 Rep 83 Posts Drives: 2008 335i Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: TX iTrader: (2)	AMS, Welcome to the N54 world! I'm a big fan as well based on what I've seen you guys do with the Evo's. I especially enjoyed watching videos of your Evo take on all challengers on the highway and pull almost everything that bothered to show up. I'm anxious to see what you guys can do for us. I know upgraded turbo kits have been suggested, but I'd also really like to see a lightweight turbo-back exhaust system that doesn't cost an arm, 2 legs, and 5 donkeys become available for this car. So far I've seen a lot of very expensive exhausts come out that have less than impressive gains, and also quite a few downpipes showing quite decent gains. I have confidence you guys can put together a full system that makes exceptional power with a tune.
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10-14-2008, 09:30 AM	#102
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Mooreski Lieutenant 32 Rep 489 Posts Drives: LMB '09 E90 M3 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Portland, OR iTrader: (1)	I see a lot of talk about changing the turbos to a large single or large double setup. Has anyone tried putting in a third small turbo? Would it give more boost with the lower lag we all knew and loved (pre 29.x)? That's my idea for ya!
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Mooreski Lieutenant 32 Rep 489 Posts Drives: LMB '09 E90 M3 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Portland, OR iTrader: (1)	Lol, if someone can fit a small block in a Miata, there would be room for a third turbo in a 335!! True, triple exhaust would look bizzare, but I'm thinking it would be an easy mod to make. You'd have to redo the exhaust manifold to have 2 cyl feeding each turbo and probably the exhaust system to get everything to feed out correctly... but aren't the wastegates vacuum controlled? If you had a 3rd, identical turbo couldn't you plug it into the vacuum system the same as the others and make it work without having to overcome any electronic hurdles? Tell me if I'm wrong, all these ideas were dreamed up in the isolation of my head. I'm probably missing something here!
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10-14-2008, 10:44 AM	#110
Zeph Major 29 Rep 1,410 Posts Drives: 2008 E92 335i 6MT SGM CR/BD Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Southeast USA iTrader: (0)	Very slightly larger twins would be great for an efficient 400-450 rwhp car for the track with still little to no lag (assuming the wastegate issue introduced in 29.2 is resolved). You could even have a higher boost mode for 500'ish rwhp or so if needed for certain applications (like a drag/highway race). I guess the daily driver would stay with twins too, honestly if you aren't gonna race just pop on an SSTT and go cosmetic from there. I think the single turbo option is gonna be the best straight-line racing option, with a larger single turbo to make 600+ rwhp (really the sky is the limit here, how fat is your wallet?). With a single I think you can really free up some space in the engine bay and have better cooling and efficiency. Downside obviously is gonna be some low end lag, not really a problem if you keep the RPM's higher. This can actually help launch the car in 1st gear which is the only gear you will ever see low RPM's in a straight-line race. I can only assume most tuners would come out with upgraded twins first, since less changes to the car would have to be made. Once you go single, now you are basically re-designing the entire intake/exhaust systems.
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