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      02-18-2025, 08:18 AM   #89
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So anything that predates the 2001 5-series isn't a BMW? OK..

That's not what I'm saying
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      02-18-2025, 08:30 AM   #90
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Here's a BMW and a KIA 😂 seriously, stop lying to yourselves guys, we're all disappointed with what BMW is becoming in terms of design, their cars no longer have any soul.
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Ugly as fk, that back lower bumper looks like a straight up Honda Civic Ebay Bondo job HAHAAHA. I guess I'll keep the CS till the end of days...
More like Neue asss
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What hypocrisy 😂 this car is nothing like a BMW, its design is horrible... a BMW without Angel eyes is not a BMW...
I was hoping they kept angel eyes as a heritage statement forever, but keep in mind they were introduced in 2001. Giant grills and moving away from heritage is the trend.

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idk what it is, but I want it.
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      02-18-2025, 12:12 PM   #94
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Who doesn't want one with that kind of power? Just think about all the money saved on a bigger turbo, tune, intake, and exhaust! More money for wheels, tires, suspension, and brakes!
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More like Neue asss
I disagree but know a good zinger when I see one, made me chuckle
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I was hoping they kept angel eyes as a heritage statement forever, but keep in mind they were introduced in 2001. Giant grills and moving away from heritage is the trend.

Disappointing... the end of an era, but I still have hope

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So I'm not worried about the looks.

It's a test mule. More interesting is the fact that one computer controls everything instead of different ECUs controlling braking, engine, steering, etc.

This means that passing parameters from one function to another is on the order of 100-1000x faster since the parameter lives in memory and does not need multiple I/On operations.

So DSC, braking, etc can be monitored and manipulated faster than anything BMW has now.

I'm interested in the drivetrain. Not sure if I'll buy one. I have an i4 and don't see myself swapping it for a new EV in a couple of years.
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Why do they have to be compared? They have nothing in common.

I'd view this as a car to add to the E46.
Buts it’s not an add on. You can’t buy an E46 M or anything like it from BMW. This is a replacement and a really pathetic one at that.

If you’re just looking to show off with number vomit and screens, this car is for you. But this car and brand are not for the same clients it was 15 years ago.

That’s ok if it’s for you, but it’s not for a lot of us here.



I hope it and BMW fail though. Just being honest.
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Well, what do we have here? Another vehicle for a few guys to come in here and express their very strong negative opinions about it, only to change their minds and end up loving it a month after its release.

Lets see where this goes…🤣
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      02-18-2025, 02:46 PM   #100
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Don’t have anything negative to say but everyone thinks this is going to be current M3 pricing. To manage expectations, the only other EV (production) that puts this kind of power/tq down is the Lucid Air Saphire which has 230k price tag.
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Please wear your girlfriend’s pants and smoke your vape in another hobby slave that’s not automotive related.
Very normal reaction to seeing a test mule.
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Very normal reaction to seeing a test mule.
What is it to you?
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Endurance Test for "Heart of Joy": the BMW Vision Driving Experience
  • World-class dynamics, precision, efficiency, and driving pleasure.
  • New “Heart of Joy” central computer works ten times faster than current systems.
  • Extending the recuperation range increases efficiency by 25%.

Woodcliff Lake, NJ – February 16, 2025… Showcasing driving pleasure up to the physical limits is BMW’s mission with its new high-performance test vehicle – the BMW Vision Driving Experience. This Vision Vehicle is not destined for production, but is instead serving as a rolling test rig for drivetrain and driving dynamics management technology developed specially for the Neue Klasse – the next generation of BMW vehicles – and referred to by BMW as the “Heart of Joy”. The prototype vehicle put the capabilities of the Heart of Joy to the ultimate test of endurance at the BMW Performance Center in Spartanburg, SC, and BMW provided exclusive insights into its development program for the electric driving experience on board the Neue Klasse as part of a preview presentation. Every fully electric Neue Klasse model will benefit from the Heart of Joy.

The first Neue Klasse model will go into series production later this year at Plant Debrecen in Hungary. The new Heart of Joy adds a fourth dimension – BMW’s characteristic driving pleasure – to the existing portfolio of Neue Klasse characteristics (electric, digital, and circular). Oliver Zipse, Chairman of the Board of Management of BMW AG, took to the stage at the IAA 2023 show holding the small black box.

“The Heart of Joy enables us to take driving pleasure not just to the next level, but another one beyond that,” says Frank Weber, member of the Board of Management of BMW AG, responsible for Development. “In addition, we are further increasing efficiency, and therefore boosting range, as in future the driver will brake almost exclusively using energy regeneration. This is Efficient Dynamics squared.”

It is important to note that the control unit will go into series production, but the Vision Vehicle will not.

Computer processing now ten times faster.

The Heart of Joy control unit for the drivetrain, brakes, charging, recuperation, and steering functions processes information ten times faster than previous systems. Working in tandem with the BMW Dynamic Performance Control software, the Heart of Joy computes all the driving dynamics functions with a whole new level of speed and precision. The control unit has been developed entirely in-house using knowledge gained in the field of driving dynamics amassed by BMW engineers over more than a century. The Vision Vehicle develops 13,269 lb-ft of torqure. The reasoning behind this is that if the control system can deal with an explosion of power of this magnitude, it will be able to handle the demands of everyday driving with ease.

Energy recovery under braking (recuperation) sees the drivetrain and braking functions of electric vehicles working symbiotically. In the innovative electronics architecture of the Neue Klasse, the Heart of Joy is one of four central units and combines drivetrain and driving dynamics fuctions for the first time. These innovative control functions are protected by several patent applications. The high-performance unit controls acceleration and braking, vehicle stabilization, dynamic steering functions, and charging management. The central processing unit and perfectly coordinated BMW Dynamic Performance Control software developed in-house enable all connected actuators to respond directly and with minimal delay: latencies are in the milliseond range. By contrast, conventional systems have separate control algorithms for the drive system and brakes. This means the full handling potential of vehicles with powerful electric drive systems cannot be fully exploited.

Precise cornering and the smooth braking.

The driver and passengers experience a harmonious and noiseless driving feeling – regardless of the situation and speed they are travelling at. In dynamic driving scenarios, the new Heart of Joy / BMW Dynamic Performance Control combination delivers cornering poise and assurance beyond compare. The vehicle generates impressive traction and can be threaded through corners with exceptional precision. Fewer control inputs are required and the vehicle’s line can be maintained with greater precision and stability. This helps the vehicle to develop consistent cornering behavior and allows it to be steered more intuitively and smoothly. At low speeds – such as in stop-and-go driving or when parking – direct signal trasnmissions and rapid information processing ensure a compelling driving experience. In driving modes D or B, or when using Active Cruise Control, the parking brake, or Auto Hold, stopping and restarting merge seamlessly into one another.

Recuperation fuels a 25% increase in efficiency.

Furthermore, integrated drivetrain, braking, and energy recuperation control allows energy to be used more sustainably. Drivers will not need to apply the conventional brakes in most situations. The braking power generated using energy recuperation is sufficient for normal, everyday driving. Only under heavy braking, e.g. in an emergency situation, is intervention required from the friction brakes. All in all, this system increases efficiency by up to 25%.

The BMW Vision Driving Experience test vehicle visually demonstrates how the Heart of Joy is working through displays of color on the wheels: acceleration is indicated in green, energy recuperation in blue, and braking using the friction brakes in orange.

Four totally new superbrains will power the BMW of the future. These high-performance computers cleverly combine various elements that previously ran separately. BMW developed the Heart of Joy superbrain 100% in-house. It allows four important control units to be brought together within a single high-performance computer.

Another three superbrains are responsible for features such as automated driving, infotainment and basic functions such as climate control and comfort-enhancing systems, vehicle access, and interior and exterior lighting.

BMW Vision Driving Experience





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What is it to you?
Humorous. Just a little dramatic is all.
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Say what you will about the styling but the way this thing changes direction and accelerates defies physics. This architecture has a ton of potential and I'm excited to see what it leads, even as a die-hard ICE supporter with 3x turbo I6 cars in my driveway.
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It like the overall look of the exterior. The front view is fantastic. I have to believe they will be reworking the rear of the car. The taillights are just too high. The wheels will never see production, thank goodness.
I don’t like the space age interior. I was really hoping the wrap around screens down at the bottom of the windshield would replace the huge screen in the middle and we could have a more traditional looking dash. I wish we would take the Porsche approach with our interiors.



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      02-19-2025, 01:39 AM   #107
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Oh good, the grilles did finally eat the headlights. I wonder when that would happen.

Please do not keep that interior. Good lord. This is like if an old Prius and Tesla had a baby.
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I'm glad I won't be able to afford one what is happening to this brand
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I'm really intrigued to see how this is going to drive, it seems like BMW are exploring how new technologies can redefine a performance driving experience.

Saying that, I'm glad we can continue to support and develop parts for the older models. For me personally I'm not sure BMW will ever top the E92 M3 with a few choice modifications.

This VDX may not be the flavour us more traditional petrolheads want, but for future generations it could keep that excitement of driving alive.
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Hey just thought would say the comments on the new car wow video are kinda funny lol people not impressed
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