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JB3 VS V3 .. which one is best ?
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10-16-2009, 09:32 PM | #89 | |
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I guess I just don't understand why people are okay running the JB3. I know it makes power but doesnt it bother you that making that power is through extremely advanced timing till the motor knocks, having the stock ECU pull timing till it knocks again, and so forth. I guess I just believe in proper tuning. But then again I own the car and am not leasing so maybe I just care more - or actually understand tuning haha. |
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Having a tune and a diagnostic tool with no communication (ie, jb3 and BT tool) is like having Mustang with a supercharger sitting in the truck. Yes, it's there. but it's not doing anything useful. Shiv |
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Shiv PS. On his forum, Terry is suggesting that YOU are ME operating under a fake ID. And our very own Terrance (a participant in this thread) agrees and finds it amusing how you "came out of no where." This is an example of how silly things have become on this forum when it comes to partisanship/tuner loyalty. Last edited by OpenFlash; 10-16-2009 at 11:21 PM.. |
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10-16-2009, 10:53 PM | #92 | |
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Terry should be allowed back on this forum. I think if there is going to be fair discussion we should be able to hear from both Shiv and Terry.
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10-16-2009, 11:59 PM | #96 | |
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So basically Proceed owners would be smart to invest in a BT cable also, which adds another $287 to the price tag, but if you go with a JB3 you can get the BT cable for only $130ish. Just adding fuel to the fire, I'm really neutral on this whole thing. My STI only had Vishnu stuff on it. |
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10-17-2009, 12:38 AM | #97 | |
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10-17-2009, 12:47 AM | #98 | |
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10-17-2009, 01:25 AM | #101 |
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i like the PROcede, personal preference im sure the JB3 is amazing... but I love the car with the PROcede V3 - i dont see a need to change... and its always being updated... plus shiv is like right here, hey shiv... always following the threads and asking for feedback and answering questions thats what makes me feel this tune is truly user adjustable (theoretically and practically) and obviously common issues or any problem you have can/should/would be figured out on e90post.com
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10-17-2009, 01:29 AM | #103 |
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I believe most procede owners don't have a BT cable, and that's ok because they don't need one! Nobody can tell them that they need one.....
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10-17-2009, 01:31 AM | #105 |
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JB is definitely a gas guzzler compared to the procede.......
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10-17-2009, 01:32 AM | #106 | |
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none the less JB3 is a very powerful tune
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10-17-2009, 04:08 AM | #107 | |
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Yes you've seen me. Yes I am the guy who ran the JB3 (tune only) on 100 octane with RFTs running slower traps and ETs - no brainer here, I didn't have traction. I love how you take cheap shots . Yes you are right I am a reasonable person that is why when I see inflated statements, the truth being stretched, I join the discussion. Now in regards to the Procede tune being handicapped - I beg to differ. It had a slight disadvantage but not by as much as you made it sound to be - "handicapped." C'mon now! Do you do stand up at Tommy T's or perform events for the slighly disadvantaged too? Yes you would be a believer of being proactive as your first iterations of the Procede had its fair share of incidents and hiccups. What better way to learn than through costly tuning mistakes (not at your expense) and on customers' cars. |
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10-17-2009, 09:10 AM | #109 | |
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The LED goes in the vent so it is visible. The knock sensor goes on the motor. The LED goes off every time knock is detected. Making a knock mic/stethescope is one of the most widely used tuning tools. As for your preference for the jb3 because it relies on factory knock sensor - wouldn't you prefer a system that makes 5whp less but never knocks instead of making a few whp more and knocking every time you get on the gas waiting for the ECU to pull timing? Me and Shiv (he is the designer of his system and I am just a supporter of CP-e's) agree whole heartedly and are on the same page even though we are kinda competing? I guess educated people just agree more. |
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10-17-2009, 09:50 AM | #110 |
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^^^Come on, you have to admit that your statement seems a little fishy. Especially since it has randomly popped up during this thread.
Maybe some further details would help, what map were you running, what octane where you running, when was this and what version jb3 were you using and what supporting mods did you have when this testing went down? I mean leaving it as vague as you did makes this a little statement a lil iffy |
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