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      12-03-2009, 08:38 PM   #89
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Hmmm...ordered mine November 25th and still waiting for my AR coated Dps..
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Hmmm...ordered mine November 25th and still waiting for my AR coated Dps..
Working on it, hoss. We are running about 2 weeks behind right now, we've been FLOODED with orders.
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Working on it, hoss. We are running about 2 weeks behind right now, we've been FLOODED with orders.
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Working on it, hoss. We are running about 2 weeks behind right now, we've been FLOODED with orders.
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i got my Macht Schnell's in 3 days from california to new jersey (normal shipping too)
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well worth the wait....
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Hmmm...ordered mine November 25th and still waiting for my AR coated Dps..
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      12-03-2009, 11:20 PM   #95
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i got my Macht Schnell's in 3 days from california to new jersey (normal shipping too)
That seems to be the typical shipping time for east coast orders, glad to hear you got yours quickly. We keep the MS units readily available in stock - most times leaving the same they they are ordered, so you get your order right away.

More walk-ins left with some new sets today - looking forward to your feedback once the new DPs are installed.
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Working on it, hoss. We are running about 2 weeks behind right now, we've been FLOODED with orders.
i can smell a 2nd Group Buy here ehehehe
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i dont think there will be much if any gains or losses on a dyno, the only thing to consider is the quality and ar has perfect fitment and the inside of the pipes are as nice as the outside, ms are nice but they dont put the time or effort into making sure the inside bore is as perfect.
Care to explain this? I wasn't aware of this and I would like to hear what EAS has to say about it as well...

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Care to explain this? I wasn't aware of this and I would like to hear what EAS has to say about it as well...

TIA
the actual inside bore inside the turbo flange side, ar's are made very well so they arent all ground down and tried to make look good, the ms one's i have seen seem to have alot of grind work done to try to clean up messy welds.

for example here is vk inner bore



and here is ar design inside bore



keep in mind the ms arent nearly as bad as the vk bore but they are not perfect like the ar design bore
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thx would love to see a pic or 2 of the MS ones at that angle!
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thx would love to see a pic or 2 of the MS ones at that angle!
sorry the set of ms i installed i didnt think to take a picture, but they were grinded down, just not nearly as bad as the vk picture. i still wanna see how ar makes the pipes, i wish i was closer to the shop, its gotta be an interesting and thought out process because there is no grinding
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Wow that's a great piece of info right there. That really makes a difference
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thx would love to see a pic or 2 of the MS ones at that angle!
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i think its time for me to swap.. im going MS though.. ALex and kev, ill bee seeing you soon..
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the actual inside bore inside the turbo flange side, ar's are made very well so they arent all ground down and tried to make look good, the ms one's i have seen seem to have alot of grind work done to try to clean up messy welds.

for example here is vk inner bore



and here is ar design inside bore



keep in mind the ms arent nearly as bad as the vk bore but they are not perfect like the ar design bore

Those pics alone will steer me towards AR DPs without a doubt...Too many good reviews and positive feedback made me go their route.
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+10 One of the best performance MODs for $ value and it sounds great with stock exhaust
ar ftw
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      12-04-2009, 12:20 PM   #107
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I'm just waiting for a good excuse -- and the time -- for a road trip to CO. Might have to get a FMIC installed at the same time.
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I'm just waiting for a good excuse -- and the time -- for a road trip to CO. Might have to get a FMIC installed at the same time.
Do it. We can get you hooked up with a nice package deal if you do DP + FMIC - maybe a tune and OCC as well?
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      12-04-2009, 12:38 PM   #109
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i think its time for me to swap.. im going MS though.. ALex and kev, ill bee seeing you soon..
haha no problem bro! guess you dont wanna deal with that install on your own again right? lol.
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Do it. We can get you hooked up with a nice package deal if you do DP + FMIC - maybe a tune and OCC as well?
I hear OCC - what's the ETA for this? (sorry for the OT)

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