Getting GIAC Flash

tom @ eas · 12-24-2009, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan335i

If for any reason you have to go back to a stock flash,will the GIAC dealer flash you back to stock,then flash back the GIAC 1 for free?

It depends on the specific dealer, it's best to ask up front. We do not charge labor for reflashing.

supracg · 12-24-2009, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Absolutely, in fact - it embraces them.

So if the tune (let's say stage 1) has a torque target and already reaches it with the given mods whether stock or not, wouldn't more mods not increase the torque output? Or does the tune develop it's target based on the mods?

To me it seems like mods might decrease the pressure on the turbos and engine through less backpressure, IAT's etc., but won't increase the actual power if the target was already reached before the mods. Is that right?

mkato13 · 12-25-2009, 12:45 AM

I like what I am hearing. Great write up

Dan335i · 12-25-2009, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Kelvin1000

Might have to pay labor but not for the actual Flash.

Also, if you want to upgrade to Stage 2, you only pay the difference.

Thank You!

balance · 12-25-2009, 03:17 AM

exactly how much is the GIAC flash?

FLA 335 · 12-25-2009, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by balance

exactly how much is the GIAC flash?

flash could run you anywhere from 799-899 + labor (if applicable)...

GIAC i dont believe will allow the discounting of the flash for any reason, however if you couple the flash with other products from some vendors they may discount their product to make up for it...

hope that helps, there are several sponsors on this forum who you can contact regarding GIAC...

tom @ eas · 12-25-2009, 01:11 PM

S1 Flash is $800, labor is included at our facility. Other dealers may differ, it's best to inquire in advance.

yermo · 01-06-2010, 12:00 AM

any updates??? how did the test go with the 3.5" exhaust???

NRG · 01-06-2010, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by yermo

any updates??? how did the test go with the 3.5" exhaust???

What exhaust?

yermo · 01-06-2010, 12:47 AM

^ page #2 post number 33 bottom of post... sorry don't know how to quote and to lazy to learn.

tom @ eas · 01-06-2010, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by yermo

any updates??? how did the test go with the 3.5" exhaust???

Not well, as the dyno showed less power than the stock catback. We're back to the stock piece at the moment.

yermo · 01-06-2010, 01:15 AM

^ well at least you tried, appreciate the info, i would have thought that it would have made an improvement.

NRG · 01-06-2010, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by yermo

^ page #2 post number 33 bottom of post... sorry don't know how to quote and to lazy to learn.

Found it!

jaza45 · 01-08-2010, 03:30 PM

Kelvin you dont know what your a missing now that Jb3 2.0 is out, I've been trying it for a day and the smoothness is incredible....

Kelvin1000 · 01-08-2010, 06:32 PM

JB3 is a hell of a tune and was always good to me.

The flash is a different animal and I look forward to the release of the GIAC Stage 2!!!

ClarkGriswold · 01-09-2010, 01:27 AM

I had my first experience with a Stg. 1 GIAC today thanks to Tyson at Twin T in Las Vegas. He took me for a ride in a E92 335i with Stg. 1. I was blown away.

I have made my decision from that ride. I will be getting it very soon.

TonyM · 01-09-2010, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Not well, as the dyno showed less power than the stock catback. We're back to the stock piece at the moment.

Well i was expecting that ... it seems that everytime someone tries to get more power from the stock catback the results are dissapointing to say the least. In Europe both Schnitzer, Noelle and others failed to do so.

By the way in Athens, Greece we do have a Giac dealer but it seems that he does not work with Bmw's

is it up to the dealer to decide ? Is there anything he can do to help me get the stage 1 ?

FLA 335 · 01-09-2010, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ******

Kelvin you dont know what your a missing now that Jb3 2.0 is out, I've been trying it for a day and the smoothness is incredible....

GIAC is different.... the power is almost instant, and consistent EVERY time at the same throttle position.

For the smoothness i would like to see graphs which compare the smoothness of GIAC to JB3...

sorry but i only believe evidence and not opinion... therefore i will believe it when i see it...

tom @ eas · 01-09-2010, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyM

Well i was expecting that ... it seems that everytime someone tries to get more power from the stock catback the results are dissapointing to say the least. In Europe both Schnitzer, Noelle and others failed to do so.

By the way in Athens, Greece we do have a Giac dealer but it seems that he does not work with Bmw's

is it up to the dealer to decide ? Is there anything he can do to help me get the stage 1 ?

If your local dealer is unwilling to help, we can bench-flash for you and have the DME returned via International Priority.

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Originally Posted by FLA 335

GIAC is different.... the power is almost instant, and consistent EVERY time at the same throttle position.

For the smoothness i would like to see graphs which compare the smoothness of GIAC to JB3...

sorry but i only believe evidence and not opinion... therefore i will believe it when i see it...

Expect many graphs to show proof very soon.

FLA 335 · 01-09-2010, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tom @ eas

If your local dealer is unwilling to help, we can bench-flash for you and have the DME returned via International Priority.

Expect many graphs to show proof very soon.

Fact is fact, so if it is true i will not deny it, but until now i havent seen jb3 with the same smoothness as GIAC is all...

Kelvin1000 · 01-09-2010, 03:36 PM

Hey Tom,

Will GIAC allow me to get Stage two if I have the original exhaust but with the secondary cats removed?

Thanks

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 01-09-2010, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FLA 335

Fact is fact, so if it is true i will not deny it, but until now i havent seen jb3 with the same smoothness as GIAC is all...

If you want to compare just pop the GIAC off in your garage and put the JB3 2.0 on for a few days.

Mike

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yermo You know I am kind of a big deal... 12 Rep 272 Posts Drives: 18 m4, 19 x5 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: SoCal iTrader: (1)	^ page #2 post number 33 bottom of post... sorry don't know how to quote and to lazy to learn.
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yermo You know I am kind of a big deal... 12 Rep 272 Posts Drives: 18 m4, 19 x5 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: SoCal iTrader: (1)	^ well at least you tried, appreciate the info, i would have thought that it would have made an improvement.
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Kelvin1000 Major 258 Rep 1,297 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW M2 Competition MT Hoc Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Miami, FL iTrader: (4)	Hey Tom, Will GIAC allow me to get Stage two if I have the original exhaust but with the secondary cats removed? Thanks
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