[DJKhan85]

Originally Posted by stressdoc

Weaksauce thread FAIL.

Why are so many of you comparing apples to oranges? What does loaded IS E93 have to do with comparisons to unloaded M3s? Or stupid comparisons with unloaded S4s?

How difficult is it to focus on the relevant fact: the IS costs 7k (6.2k invoice) more than standard, 5.4k more than ZSP, 3.9k more than M-sport. Makes as much sense to post 'wow, my 335is (ED invoice) is only 45k, how stupid is buying a 328 (loaded vert) for 60k'

Some of you seem mesmerized by "only 20 HP". First off, it has >25HP, plus 370 ft/lbs torque overboost. That is + 70 ft/lbs more. Lighter flywheel. Sports exhaust. Aux radiator. Improved H2O pump, fan, other cooling parts. 313 rims, SSK or optional DCT. Lots of M-sport goodies. You want to bitch about whether all that is worth several k, fine, that is a worthy argument. So is 3-series overall pricing. But comparing the IS to GTRs and P-cars as price equals? Seriously?

+10000 It's amazing how many of these price comparison threads have popped up recently. Makes me wonder if any of these people who purchased a new 335 should have just bought a used barebones 08 m3.

[HPIA4v2]

Originally Posted by stressdoc

Weaksauce thread FAIL.

Why are so many of you comparing apples to oranges? What does loaded IS E93 have to do with comparisons to unloaded M3s? Or stupid comparisons with unloaded S4s?

How difficult is it to focus on the relevant fact: the IS costs 7k (6.2k invoice) more than standard, 5.4k more than ZSP, 3.9k more than M-sport. Makes as much sense to post 'wow, my 335is (ED invoice) is only 45k, how stupid is buying a 328 (loaded vert) for 60k'

Some of you seem mesmerized by "only 20 HP". First off, it has >25HP (if we trust dynos), plus 370 ft/lbs torque overboost. That is + 70 ft/lbs more. Lighter flywheel. Sports exhaust. Aux radiator. Improved H2O pump, fan, other cooling parts. 313 rims, SSK or optional DCT. Lots of M-sport goodies. You want to bitch about whether all that is worth several k, fine, that is a worthy argument. So is 3-series overall pricing. So is unloaded IS to unloaded M3 (I am loving the $2.5k competition package for the M3!). But comparing the IS to GTRs and P-cars as price equals? Seriously?

streesdoc, now you make me feel bad for ordering 2011 335XI

Like I said before, comparing dollar-for-dollar between brand new and used cars is just that.

[stressdoc]

OT to HPIA4v2, but if lived in the mountains xi (or quattro) would trump IS.

[TT3 iN NyC]

Originally Posted by cn555ic

Holy shit I am glad I have my 07 E93 which in 12 months will be fully paid off....I paid top dollar back then which I felt robbed, but Jesus 71+....thats almost 5000 more for the same model car and motor ! Damn!!!!!!! I am very happy and content with my 07!!

Congrats! I just paid mine off last month. Nothing feels better than have a sexy car with no payments!

[Brunotheboxer]

Originally Posted by stressdoc

Weaksauce thread FAIL.

Why are so many of you comparing apples to oranges? What does loaded IS E93 have to do with comparisons to unloaded M3s? Or stupid comparisons with unloaded S4s?

How difficult is it to focus on the relevant fact: the IS costs 7k (6.2k invoice) more than standard, 5.4k more than ZSP, 3.9k more than M-sport. Makes as much sense to post 'wow, my 335is (ED invoice) is only 45k, how stupid is buying a 328 (loaded vert) for 60k'

Some of you seem mesmerized by "only 20 HP". First off, it has >25HP (if we trust dynos), plus 370 ft/lbs torque overboost. That is + 70 ft/lbs more. Lighter flywheel. Sports exhaust. Aux radiator. Improved H2O pump, fan, other cooling parts. 313 rims, SSK or optional DCT. Lots of M-sport goodies. You want to bitch about whether all that is worth several k, fine, that is a worthy argument. So is 3-series overall pricing. So is unloaded IS to unloaded M3 (I am loving the $2.5k competition package for the M3!). But comparing the IS to GTRs and P-cars as price equals? Seriously?

[hoogwerf]

Completely agree. If you want crazy pricing just visit the Porsche site. $700 for red instrument dials!! BMW looks sane compared to these guys.

[zackday30]

Originally Posted by SmoothStyle1

Jesus. I would have opted for a decently equipped Caymen S for that price.

Or how a bout a year or two old 911? Jesus!

[chenx15]

good thing i got the N54 335i.

[ALPINE6SPD]

Originally Posted by Budfox27

Hey Alpine6SPD:

Attached is the cost sheet. Add it up douche. Everything I wanted, which is I guess I should have said, heavily optioned. Why would I lie about it?

you did lie. You said EVERY OPTION. How is that not a lie? Just making a point that people post deals they get here without the correct information. You did not get EVERY other option did you?

Also no reason for the name calling. Are you not old enough to be past that yet?

[zackday30]

Originally Posted by TT3 iN NyC

Congrats! I just paid mine off last month. Nothing feels better than have a sexy car with no payments!

I am jealous of you!!!

[zibawal]

Does any one have lease rates on 335iS coupe?

[Outlaw 06]

Originally Posted by The J-Man

$65K is the MSRP for a fully loaded model - nobody will pay that. Most of the is coupes will sell in the $56K range nicely equipped - still pricey though.

True, but a 2011 M3 Coupe (with 6MT, no pricy options or unnecessary electronic gizmos, etc.) can be had for about $60k.

I'd buy a (nicely-equipped) base M3 over a loaded 3-Series any day.

[Brunotheboxer]

Originally Posted by TJDiCandido

True, but a 2011 M3 Coupe (with 6MT, no pricy options or unnecessary electronic gizmos, etc.) can be had for about $60k.

I'd buy a (nicely-equipped) base M3 over a loaded 3-Series any day.

Did you also include the Gas guzzler Tax? Personally for everyday use and no track time I would rather have the is. If I was a track guy then M3 everyday, all day..

[Outlaw 06]

Originally Posted by Brunotheboxer

Did you also include the Gas guzzler Tax? Personally for everyday use and no track time I would rather have the is. If I was a track guy then M3 everyday, all day..

Yes, the MSRP for the 2011 M3 Coupe is $60,575 including the $875 destination charge and $1,300 "Gas Guzzler tax".

Invoice is $55,905 (including destination charge and Gas Guzzler tax).

[zibawal]

I saw a 2011 335i convertible in person. my o my, car on front on, looks extremely gorgeous, sporty and sleek to my surprise. Back was good too, but beauty is front on. It was parked right next to a 2010 coupe! Just a limited face lift can change personality though. I can not wait for 335iS in person viewing, esp, black exhaust, trims and black mirrors ! But bigger mirrors in std coupe do not get into notice!

[garage queen 335is]

Just picked up my car. Fully loaded except navigation. 65100.00 including sales tax.

[Brunotheboxer]

Originally Posted by TJDiCandido

Yes, the MSRP for the 2011 M3 Coupe is $60,575 including the $875 destination charge and $1,300 "Gas Guzzler tax".

Invoice is $55,905 (including destination charge and Gas Guzzler tax).

I figure for that price you can get a loaded 335is without the navigation. For me the Is would be the better fit than a totally stripped M3, but I'm NOT a track guy at all.

[Outlaw 06]

Originally Posted by Brunotheboxer

I figure for that price you can get a loaded 335is without the navigation. For me the Is would be the better fit than a totally stripped M3, but I'm NOT a track guy at all.

Fair enough.

My 2004 E46 M3 came pretty much "totally stripped" with heated power seats, Xenons, metallic paint, and 19" wheels as the only options. For the money, the M3 was far superior to the top-of-the-line 2004 E46 3-Series (the 330i ZHP). The M3 offered a better MotorSport engine, suspension, driveline, exhaust, LSD, etc. The price difference in 2004 was significantly more though, with the MSRP of a well-optioned 330i ZSP at around $40k and a stripped M3 at around $48k.

Based on the price difference between the E9x M3 and 335is, I think the E9x M3 is an even better value today. The E9x M3 is definitely the superior car for the money.

[Brunotheboxer]

Originally Posted by TJDiCandido

Fair enough.

My 2004 E46 M3 came pretty much "totally stripped" with heated power seats, Xenons, metallic paint, and 19" wheels as the only options. For the money, the M3 was far superior to the top-of-the-line 2004 E46 3-Series (the 330i ZHP). The M3 offered a better MotorSport engine, suspension, driveline, exhaust, LSD, etc. The price difference in 2004 was significantly more though, with the MSRP of a well-optioned 330i ZSP at around $40k and a stripped M3 at around $48k.

Based on the price difference between the E9x M3 and 335is, I think the E9x M3 is an even better value today. The E9x M3 is definitely the superior car for the money.

I agree that M3>335is. Its a better car but I wouldn't want a car that stripped down. For the way I would configure an M3, it would be closer to 70K so for me the 335is fits my price range and my desires perfect. I may even get this for my next car.

[captainaudio]

Originally Posted by Delta0311

Those people are like my dad's friend. The guy has a 09 335i convertible and didn't even know that the car had turbos. I shit you not the guy told the dealer he wanted a quick convertible and that was it.

I have a 335i Convertible. I did not know it had turbos.
What's a turbo?

[HPIA4v2]

http://www.egmcartech.com/2010/04/01...n-the-audi-s4/

not expecting much it seems.

As usual, no one wants to call clear winner in either one of these so let's compare 4-door against coupe, why not S5 vs 335is.

Originally Posted by captainaudio

I have a 335i Convertible. I did not know it had turbos.
What's a turbo?

O it's that little thingy that makes your car wer...wer...wer...

[Brunotheboxer]

Originally Posted by L0U

http://www.egmcartech.com/2010/04/01...n-the-audi-s4/

not expecting much it seems.

I really like the S4 but would not buy one. I dont want another sedan and I like RWD better. I think for people that have kids the S4 is a great car but for me my next car will be a coupe.