[335Black]

Well the brakes might be an issue if you are at fairly low miles, especially if they vibrate due to warping rotors under extreme conditions...Alot of service managers will give you one 'goodwill' for brakes and after that you are on your own...oil coolers and check engine lights are really different things, unless they can prove beyond a doubt that the failures were caused by abuse, you should be alright...but remember every service department is different...my Manager used to street race a 500hp Z28 so he is a little forgiving at times...

[StewtheBassman]

Originally Posted by ward

if I use the C word for a womans private parts can I get this thread closed???

I dare you.

[hemi to e90]

whats the magical word?

C U Next Tuesday?

[2007/335i/coupe]

Originally Posted by 335Black

Well the brakes might be an issue if you are at fairly low miles, especially if they vibrate due to warping rotors under extreme conditions...Alot of service managers will give you one 'goodwill' for brakes and after that you are on your own...oil coolers and check engine lights are really different things, unless they can prove beyond a doubt that the failures were caused by abuse, you should be alright...but remember every service department is different...my Manager used to street race a 500hp Z28 so he is a little forgiving at times...

How much is rubber in the fender well an issue with your service team?

[Ado]

Heck what is the magical C word?

335Black, thanks for all your helpful info. It's much appreciated.

[StewtheBassman]

Isn't a "Compact" something private that a gal carries around to do her makeup with?

[NaTuReB0Y]

I think the "C" word is CUTE!

[sstarch1]

Can U Negotiate Transportation?

[335Black]

Originally Posted by 2007/335i/coupe

How much is rubber in the fender well an issue with your service team?

Well I have seen cars that come from the dragstrip with loads in the fenderwells...common sense would say if I don't want them to know what I was doing, take the numbers off the windows and clean the car back up a bit...I have seen guys with laptops hooked up clearing their cars in the lane while I was at VW (R-32 with a rod thru the block) and he got his 2nd engine!!!
Just try not to have anything obvious which would point towards racing or abuse.

[2007/335i/coupe]

I tend to clean my car well as if nothing has happened, the rubber should be relatively easy for me to remove. I guess I was also concerned with the tire scraping the fender well leaving scrub marks.

[Zshazz]

Hey guys, just adding my opinion/experience.

I don't want to hear all this crap about ethics. Dealers will attempt (at pretty much any expense except $) to not have to pay for a warranty claim (or any claim for that matter).

Case in point, I had my previous car in for an oil change and after getting it back, I noticed the body panels were misaligned and there were "pops" and "creaks". Upon questioning them I was answered with a "it's normal for a car with 20,000 miles to do that." I wasn't satisfied but let it go for a day because they weren't going to budge. However, it started bugging me more and more, so I went in again. This time they blamed me citing that I was young and obviously didn't know how to take care of a car. That pissed me off, so I took it to a damage shop who looked at it and said point blank "this damage is consistent with improper lifting". I questioned the dealer, and they admitted that they did indeed lift it wrong (lifting 3 wheels instead of 4). However, they refused to do much of anything about it and I was left with (what felt like) a broken car. I ended up selling it and getting a BMW instead.

In fact, I've even had friends with modified suspensions being denied warranty claims on their ENGINE. I even know that's all they had. So they were ALSO stuck with a bum car.

So, tell me, was it ethical for them to lie about what they did? Of course not! Was it ethical for that other dealer to refuse warranty because of a completely unrelated part? Of course not. But that doesn't affect what they'll do in order to get out of paying for it. Now I hate to say a BMW dealer would do it (I sure hope not), but I'm sure they have to conduct their business as efficiently as possible. They'll look for any reason to not pay for warranty issues. It isn't unethical for you to try to remove any reason they may give to not work on your car, as long as it's for an unrelated part. I'd even say it might not be unethical to remove that reason on a related part, if it is in within reason to say that would have failed even without the modification. (ex. I have Xede, but one of my turbos failed because of a manufacturing defect on the fin caused it to self-destruct).

Now, it would be unethical for you to, say, boost the turbos by 200 psi or inject the engine with 500 lbs of NAWZZZ (Nitrous Oxide or improperly known as NOS) and when it fails remove the parts and go "wow I have no idea what happened ... my grandmother was driving the car and it randomly exploded." Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you should be allowed to rip off companies because their big and evil and they deserve it (as, this simply isn't the case) ... All I'm saying is you shouldn't let them rip you off. Personally, I don't mind me (included with everyone else) paying 1 cent for someone else not to get ripped off for $5000+ for something that most likely didn't cause the failure in the first place.

[Backattack]

Originally Posted by hemi to e90

look turbos get hot, im saying to prevent damage that would be unneccassary, cool it down the last 2-5 miles from home, or let it idle when the car is turned off, or install a turbo timer. Also Break-in on the car should be extended and followed to the T, on the car. personally im gonna stay off the throttle till ~2000 miles

and the point is that this is a high performance car, but if u drive it at 10/10ths 24/7 dont be suprised when the car goes boom.

Looks like we're saying the same thing but differently.

[hemi to e90]

Originally Posted by Backattack

Looks like we're saying the same thing but differently.

indeed we are

great minds think alike

[e36jakeo]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

My coolant and oil temp ranges has remained unchanged from when the car was bone stock so I'm hesitant to fix something that isn't broken. Those doing regular track days could very well benefit from a larger oil cooler and perhaps even an upgraded radiator. But for a street car that sees max load for less than 10 seconds at a time, such upgrades may not be warranted.

That said, one thing I've been wanting to do for some time is actually hook up a proper aftermarket oil temp gauge and see just how accurate the factory gauge is. For all we know, an 250F as indicated on the factory dash gauge may be actually be 230F. Factory guages are rarely accurate.

-shiv

Thanks for the input, Shiv. I didn't realize you saw the oil temp needle move a bit when stock. I am a minority in that I do track my cars at really high temps and I even run them hard enough on the back roads to raise concerns about the extra heat generated by the extra power. I proactively put an oil cooler on my S2000 when I supercharged it for this reason.

[DIRKD]

For those of you who lease, you must sign a statement when you turn the car in saying you didn't mod the car. So don't think your getting away with something " not my car, it's leased".

I've leased 4 cars so far and this 335 will be my 5th, and never have I seen such a statement.

[hemi to e90]

dirkd whos that in ur avatar

i must know

[ArmyBimmerDude]

Originally Posted by hemi to e90

dirkd whos that in ur avatar

i must know

Hell yeah, me too!

[lawdude]

Originally Posted by hemi to e90

dirkd whos that in ur avatar

i must know

You don't wanna know.

[ArmyBimmerDude]

Um why not?

[hemi to e90]

Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude

Um why not?

+1

explain urself

[lawdude]

Originally Posted by hemi to e90

+1

explain urself

You might find out you've been lusting after a bubble butt tranny.

[bobnaz]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

If we take two 335s. Keep one completely stock and disable the turbos on the other. Which one will have less problems in the long run? I'm guessing that the 200hp 335i will be the last to exhibit some kinds of mechanical wear (clutch wear, tire wear, cv joint wear, transmission noise, differential whine, etc,.). Does that mean we should all disable our turbochargers and run 0psi of boost? If longevity, fuel economy aversion to any form of unnecessary risk is your first priority.... yes. Yank off the vacuum lines going to the wastegate actuators and disable those stinkin' turbos!

If those things aren't a few rungs down on your priority list. Or perhaps things like driver enjoyment are equally weighed, then perhaps you should leave those turbos singing their song. Heck, some crazies may even want that song to be a big more melodious (with XEDE, for instance) and will be willing to accept a slightly quicker wear rate. What's slightly quicker? If you do all your driving on the racetrack, at full throttle, shifting at redline, never taking an unnecessary break, i'd imagine the accelerated wear would be easily measurable. However, if you drive like the rest of us and limit full throttle blasts to a few dozen times a day (several minutes cummulative), I'd imagine that you wouldn't be able to quantify anything whatsoever. In the end, just about every mechanical failure I've seen has been due to driver abuse or extreme operating conditions, not by simply modifying their car. It just so happens that those few extreme users/abusers tend to hobknob within the big and diverse group of people who tend to modify their cars. Those suckers give the rest of us bad names!

just my 2c,
shiv

He is right on. If you just track your street car, you will probably get 1/2 (just a guess) as if you just used it for street. I moded my old M3 and it had 80k and I took it to the track about once a year and when I sold it, it never burned a lick of oil or smoked. If you mod your 335 and just use it for street, I don't think engine wear would be a problem...track the car all the time, then maybe, like Shiv said