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      12-29-2006, 09:29 PM   #89
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your vette is one sick puppy... man what a wicked beast... love it!!!
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Nice Vette, but did you just hijack my thread????
~ no... he has time slips...j/k..
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      12-29-2006, 10:09 PM   #94
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~ no... he has time slips...j/k..

lol pwned, the xede equiped 335 w/ 93 octane and exaust could probably take a stock corvette, but not that thing
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      12-29-2006, 10:32 PM   #95
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Of course?

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let it go dude, i know how a differential and an lsd work, and the lsd isnt going to matter UNLESS YOUR SPINNING YOUR WHEELS, as long as your going in a straight line (and not spinning your wheels) the lsd isnt going to make you any faster

(are you notciing a pattern here and in the posts ive already made, mainly the straight line no wheel spin part, getting me yet?) itll probably make the car a little easier to control (i should note before i said "no difference" but i meant that about your speed), but its not going to make you any faster (unless you suck at driving) as you said its meant to keep the wheels spinning at the same rate, or close to the same rate, but thats not going to matter unless you cant; launch worth shit/shift worth shit/or keep your car staright

now im ending this here, you guys can continue to debate with yourselfs, but i wont respond

Wait, first it's that the lsd won't help you if your wheels are already spinning, now your saying if the wheels aren't spinning, C'mon get real and stick to one story. No, if you have more traction on both tires than power, the lsd won't do anything of course, but that's not what you said. Maybe your's is really slow, but mine has WAY more power than traction with streets and still more power than traction with the 275 track kumho's, and this guy's 12.4 was with an extra 50+ WHP. You want to end the debate, that's fine, you are the only one debating the benefits and necessities of LSD, check some other threads, or of course stop by any drag anytime and ask anyone you consider to be a good launcher if they think they could run the same times without LSD.
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      12-29-2006, 10:41 PM   #96
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      12-29-2006, 10:59 PM   #97
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to make fun of someone who cant launch and just burns out like crazy, i said once that the lsd wouldnt help you if your spinning your wheels, because if you burn out like crazy while launching, lsd aint going to save you from yourself


never said the lsd doesnt help WHEN the wheels were spinning said it doesnt help when the wheels ARENT spinning, thats what i said every time but the joke, your mistake not mine

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if your spinning your wheels enough for the lsd to come into play... then the lsd aint going to save you anyway
this was meant as a joke at someone who cant keep there wheels connected in a straight line

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      12-29-2006, 11:45 PM   #98
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OH NO.....sorry i dont mean to hijack!!
i am new here and dont wanna start off like that....i am really excited, tomorrow i am takin delivery of my 335.

guys i know for a fact that larger turbos are being assembled right now. these will bolt right up....ill let u know!
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never said the lsd doesnt help WHEN the wheels were spinning said it doesnt help when the wheels ARENT spinning, thats what i said every time but the joke, your mistake not mine
Not every time. The first time you said:

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just FYI an lsd doesnt do shiet in a straight line
It looked like you were trying to rewrite the laws of physics, but now that we know you're just a big joker, let's move on.
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Not every time. The first time you said:



It looked like you were trying to rewrite the laws of physics, but now that we know you're just a big joker, let's move on.
no i was seriouse then, because in context it was about a 1/4m track, i dont think this is really that hard to understand

here ill give the whole thing step by step

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yea i said that, just FYI an lsd doesnt do shiet in a straight line,
this was in reference to quarter mile runs (since that was what i was quoting), where you should be able to keep your tires down (in which case an lsd does nothing)


now theres some omg teknochild your a retard lsd pwns in a straight line wth your dumb so i say

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if your spinning your wheels enough for the lsd to come into play... then the lsd aint going to save you anyway
as in yea sure the lsd will help you, if you cant keep your tires stuck on the track, but if you cant even do that much and lsd isnt going to help you because your going to be running so slow already



then bla bla bla some more your dumb tekno stuff, at which point i make it VERY clear that i was only talking about a straight line where your not spinning your wheels
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Actually, the LSD can make a huge difference in the quarter mile, particularly in a car with more power. I am not sure how you are suggesting 'you should be able to keep your tires down', but the LSD is going to help keep you from spinning, in that the more driveshaft input torque you have, the more both wheels will be coupled to each other. You want your differential rotation as close to zero as possible. Otherwise, one tire will end up remaining stationary, while the other spins up to twice its intended velocity. This happened to me using slicks with an open differential.

While it is possible to launch with minimal spin with an open differential, you can be far more aggressive launching with an LSD.
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      12-30-2006, 12:53 AM   #102
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Otherwise, one tire will end up remaining stationary, while the other spins up to twice its intended velocity. This happened to me using slicks with an open differential.
thats exaclty what i was talking about, if that happens you cant drive and an lsd isnt going to save you
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Otherwise, one tire will end up remaining stationary, while the other spins up to twice its intended velocity. This happened to me using slicks with an open differential.
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thats exaclty what i was talking about, if that happens you cant drive and an lsd isnt going to save you

It has nothing to do with not being able to drive. I am not talking about launching a low powered vehicle like a Ford Escort. The more power you make, the easier it going to be to launch without spinning with an LSD. One tire will never spin twice the velocity as the other with an LSD...the whole point of an LSD is to prevent this.
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It has nothing to do with not being able to drive. I am not talking about launching a low powered vehicle like a Ford Escort. The more power you make, the easier it going to be to launch without spinning with an LSD. One tire will never spin twice the velocity as the other with an LSD...the whole point of an LSD is to prevent this.
if your going to spin the wheels its going to happen with or w/o the lsd, and yea i understand its hard to launch a high powered vehicle without some wheel spin, but even if you have to have some wheel spin, but with a little wheel spin the lsd isnt going to make a big enough diffrence, and if your wheels are spinning enough for it to make a big enough diffrence, again you cannot drive

this is of course not what i was originally talking about and im sure furthers even more from your opinion
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if your going to spin the wheels its going to happen with or w/o the lsd
This is far from being true. Spend some time drag racing with an open diff, LSD, and spool and you'll see the relevance.
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Haha teknochild, at first I thought you were serious. Then I thought you were a big joker. Then I got confused about when you're serious and when you're a big joker. Then I remembered that the nervous hospital has a name for your condition. j/k

It's a technical issue and really not that important in the grand scheme of life. But keep in mind that whenever someone makes an absolute statement, someone else probably will provide a contrary response.

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ABSOLUTELY TRUE!!

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Since the xede has been out, I've been waiting to see what it can really do. And I'm speechless. 12.4 seems pretty exact, but trapping at 122, thats insane. Can't wait for official drags times and others to test on their Xede installed 335i's. Since its such a beast with it, I think some owners are nervous especially without lsd to actually test it.
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Since the xede has been out, I've been waiting to see what it can really do. And I'm speechless. 12.4 seems pretty exact, but trapping at 122, thats insane. Can't wait for official drags times and others to test on their Xede installed 335i's. Since its such a beast with it, I think some owners are nervous especially without lsd to actually test it.
So far, I haven't seen the "absolute" need for an LSD, even w/ the Xede.
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I'm no expert, but isnt the whole point of a LSD to prevent wheel spin? So yes, if your wheels aint spinning the LSD doesnt do much, but you can go faster with an LSD and NOT have wheel spin that if you dont.... atleast the way I understand it.
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