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      03-27-2011, 08:48 PM   #89
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How do you know this. I can't find anything definitive on egr for the n54. I'd really appreciate the reference.
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I know this from looking at the engine.
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      03-27-2011, 09:34 PM   #90
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Mr. 5 what r the torque specs on intake manifold bolts? Did you reuse the manifold gaskets? Thx

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      03-27-2011, 09:56 PM   #91
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Probably but I would have had to jack up the car and do it from the bottom and I didn't want to mess with it.
I think I did a pretty good job with doing the job with the valves as is.


Oh and BTW, I was doing the test drive and pushed it up to 15 psi, and POP! It was a loud sound and it sounded metallic. Oh no!
I totlly thought I popped a valve.
Then I kept driving and my engine was running fine but when I hit boost is sounded really funny and I had no power.

I got home and looked all around the engine bay.
The elbow from the IC was off.
I forgot to tighten the clamp Whoops!
Whew Bet that was scary at first.
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Mr. 5 what r the torque specs on intake manifold bolts? Did you reuse the manifold gaskets? Thx
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Whew Bet that was scary at first.
It was, but I was calm.
I was just thinking, "What am I going to do to fix this?"
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      11-28-2011, 06:49 PM   #93
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Dealer just called and Ive got really bad buildup, 65k miles, 3 hpfp. I am having the dealer take before and afters tommorrow when they start.
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Dealer just called and Ive got really bad buildup, 65k miles, 3 hpfp. I am having the dealer take before and afters tommorrow when they start.
Are they covering this for you? I assume they aren't but I figured I'd ask.
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For those with meth and a remote reservoir if you run a bottle of techron fuel system cleaner + 3oz marvel mystery oil and fill the remaining reservoir with pure methanol and then go beat the shit out of the car on a low boost map till the reservoir is empty. you will get rid of most or all of your carbon deposits without having to manually clean the valves

This mixture absolutely eats away the carbon and should be safe in meth pumps!
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Dealer just called and Ive got really bad buildup, 65k miles, 3 hpfp. I am having the dealer take before and afters tommorrow when they start.
Had same issue twice now, and they just cleaned mine under warranty. Also did it at 25k.

They cleaned mine with a media blast (walnut shells I believe).
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      11-29-2011, 10:27 AM   #98
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I have no interest in proving anything to anyone esp to some know it all kid. I have no vested interest in these products, I only speak from personal experience. Try lifting a wrench sometime, tearing down and working on an engine, experience I have found is life's best teacher. Otherwise, continue living in that blissful world of yours often referred to as ignorance.
haha Ignorance is bliss...
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      11-29-2011, 10:39 AM   #99
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^ he conceded his point later on in the thread.

Interesting idea about the meth/Techron/MM oil mix in the meth tank for cleaning valves. I did a mechanical clean on mine about 6 weeks ago (just after I bought it), and the carbon was 10x worse than the pics in this thread. It was caked on so badly, it took me 6 hours start to finish, 3 cans of carb cleaner (better than brake cleaner for carbon and varnish), and about $20 of gun cleaning brushes from Wal Mart. Screw doing that again! I am going to buy the BMW walnut shell blaster for the shop.
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For those with meth and a remote reservoir if you run a bottle of techron fuel system cleaner + 3oz marvel mystery oil and fill the remaining reservoir with pure methanol and then go beat the shit out of the car on a low boost map till the reservoir is empty. you will get rid of most or all of your carbon deposits without having to manually clean the valves

This mixture absolutely eats away the carbon and should be safe in meth pumps!
The critical ingredient for cleaning off this crud is polyether amine (PEA). Although manufactured by a Chevron affiliate, there are quite a few products with higher concentrations of it than Techron fuel system cleaner. I'd check out Redline Sl-1, Gumout Regane and HKS Direct Deposit Remover.

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^ he conceded his point later on in the thread.

Interesting idea about the meth/Techron/MM oil mix in the meth tank for cleaning valves. I did a mechanical clean on mine about 6 weeks ago (just after I bought it), and the carbon was 10x worse than the pics in this thread. It was caked on so badly, it took me 6 hours start to finish, 3 cans of carb cleaner (better than brake cleaner for carbon and varnish), and about $20 of gun cleaning brushes from Wal Mart. Screw doing that again! I am going to buy the BMW walnut shell blaster for the shop.
Glad to hear it!

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Im going to go off on a limb here and see what you guys think about using CLP to help break free the carbon. We use it to clean our weapons of carbon in the Marine Corps and it works well with a good set of wire brushes. I know it would leave a film as well since it is an oily substance, but I imagine carb cleaner could take it off easily if it's a concern. Who knows, maybe the film would help prevent further build up?
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Im going to go off on a limb here and see what you guys think about using CLP to help break free the carbon. We use it to clean our weapons of carbon in the Marine Corps and it works well with a good set of wire brushes. I know it would leave a film as well since it is an oily substance, but I imagine carb cleaner could take it off easily if it's a concern. Who knows, maybe the film would help prevent further build up?
I wonder if it would eat up aluminum, like Oven Cleaner... if so, I wouldn't try it.
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EVERYTHING you have said has no merit on DI engines. If your injection system is DI, fuel cleaners don't do shit for anything other than your fuel lines and your injectors.
+1 thats is why these engines have so much build up , the fuel is directly injected and does not pass through the intake port and over the valves.
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For those with meth and a remote reservoir if you run a bottle of techron fuel system cleaner + 3oz marvel mystery oil and fill the remaining reservoir with pure methanol and then go beat the shit out of the car on a low boost map till the reservoir is empty. you will get rid of most or all of your carbon deposits without having to manually clean the valves

This mixture absolutely eats away the carbon and should be safe in meth pumps!
has anyone tried this? i got a big bottle of techron and i got meth using WW reservoir. but i don't wanna be the guinea pig lol.
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^ he conceded his point later on in the thread.

Interesting idea about the meth/Techron/MM oil mix in the meth tank for cleaning valves. I did a mechanical clean on mine about 6 weeks ago (just after I bought it), and the carbon was 10x worse than the pics in this thread. It was caked on so badly, it took me 6 hours start to finish, 3 cans of carb cleaner (better than brake cleaner for carbon and varnish), and about $20 of gun cleaning brushes from Wal Mart. Screw doing that again! I am going to buy the BMW walnut shell blaster for the shop.
So how did it run after? I wonder just how important it is for the intake tract before the CC to be spotless.
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