[brandon @ eas]

here is the problem area, that could have been completely avoided if this were test fit better and sanded down to fit the headlight better

[Neema]

Originally Posted by brandonanix

The Lows:
*Inner wheel arch its not smooth looking, and is actually thicker than OEM, so my wheels rub on it, but didnt rub when I had the OEM bumper on.
*Around the inside of the headlights (where the bumper meets the headlight next to the kidney grille) is not smooth looking, and is almost jagged when you look at it up close.
* Body shop told me they had issues installing it, even though fitment looks perfect
* I already have 2 small stress cracks where the bumper overlaps on top of the headlight. This is frustrating because I speant alot of money on this bumper, Cost of the part, $350 for paint, $350 for clearbra etc.

THE VERDICT grade: B+, but can easily be made to a grade A with minor modifications.

Great quality part, just make sure you scan the bumper for defects in the wheel arch area, and the headlight openings with the body shop, and make sure they fix any potential problem areas, to make sure you dont have any regrets before spending the money on paint and clearbra. I believe the OEM M-tech full front bumper is around $1000, and the E92kits.com bumper is about $600, so it is alot more affordable, for a unique looking product.

B+?

Having to sand anything down to make it fit, not be jagged, or smoothen it out

Having the inside of the fender be un even, too thick, and cause your wheels to rub

Having not one, but 2 stress cracks?

Having to scan it over for defects, or having a shop saying they had fitment issues


That qualifies for a D-, you got to be kidding me dude. You shouldn't have to do ANY of the things you had to do. Your not supposed to have cracks, jagged edges, thick fenders, wheel/tire rubbing, fitment issues, defects that need to be sanded............thats rediculous.

And by the way, the OEM E92 M tech bumper is TOTALLY different then this E92 kits bumper...........this is an M5 bumper, the M-tech bumper is specific to the E92 ONLY.

[Neema]

its people who let these types of things slide, that contribute to poor quality products in the aftermarket. You need to hold your own, stay strict, and demand the best.

Look at Mansory, Gemballa, and Brabus.........its rediculously high quality stuff, and I dont care if "oh yea but they mass produce." So what? I dont care what it takes to make an extrememly high quality product, just do it, and until you do...stay in the R&D stage.

[uhaulball]

Originally Posted by Boost_Nation

its people who let these types of things slide, that contribute to poor quality products in the aftermarket. You need to hold your own, stay strict, and demand the best.

Look at Mansory, Gemballa, and Brabus.........its rediculously high quality stuff, and I dont care if "oh yea but they mass produce." So what? I dont care what it takes to make an extrememly high quality product, just do it, and until you do...stay in the R&D stage.

The kits you are talking about are for bentleys and stuff. it probably costs 25% of the price of a new 335 to get it painted and installed. wrong market dude, like seriously. the e92kit is much more comparable to the aftermarket stuff made for a BMW 3 SERIES (go figure), like Kerscher or Rieger. At half the price of a Kerscher or Rieger kit, it offers 100% of the same quality you would expect from them. from your expectations of kits for cars liek a bentley, no wonder you are bashing. i dont blame you, your family is loaded to the brim and i have nothing against that, but you cant apply your situation and values to the market.

edit: just look at the expensive kerscher kit's installation. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23205

[OC Guy]

Originally Posted by Boost_Nation

B+?

Having to sand anything down to make it fit, not be jagged, or smoothen it out

Having the inside of the fender be un even, too thick, and cause your wheels to rub

Having not one, but 2 stress cracks?

Having to scan it over for defects, or having a shop saying they had fitment issues


That qualifies for a D-, you got to be kidding me dude. You shouldn't have to do ANY of the things you had to do. Your not supposed to have cracks, jagged edges, thick fenders, wheel/tire rubbing, fitment issues, defects that need to be sanded............thats rediculous.

Originally Posted by Boost_Nation

its people who let these types of things slide, that contribute to poor quality products in the aftermarket. You need to hold your own, stay strict, and demand the best.

Look at Mansory, Gemballa, and Brabus.........its rediculously high quality stuff, and I dont care if "oh yea but they mass produce." So what? I dont care what it takes to make an extrememly high quality product, just do it, and until you do...stay in the R&D stage.

While we may be more nitpicky than others, the grade is an opinion. Everyone is entitled to one.

The market allows this type of bumper. Some people want variety, some people want something different, some people don't want to pay the money, etc..

With that being said...

While the Mtech might be slightly more, one has to consider that it is more expensive to make because it is not fiberglass, the shipping from Europe to Canada and then to the U.S. we have to pay (until dealers here are able to get them), and the fact that you may have to pay more to prep a bumper that isn't exactly perfect (from what Brandonainx showed. The prep cost will obviously depend on the body shop used and how much work you want to do on it.

In my experience with other body kits, often times when you pay for the less expensive stuff, it costs around the same or more due to prep/fitting/and what not.

Let the market decide what's available for the consumer.

[!Xoible]

Originally Posted by OC 335i

While we may be more nitpicky than others, the grade is an opinion. Everyone is entitled to one.

The market allows this type of bumper. Some people want variety, some people want something different, some people don't want to pay the money, etc..

With that being said...

While the Mtech might be slightly more, one has to consider that it is more expensive to make because it is not fiberglass, the shipping from Europe to Canada and then to the U.S. we have to pay (until dealers here are able to get them), and the fact that you may have to pay more to prep a bumper that isn't exactly perfect (from what Brandonainx showed. The prep cost will obviously depend on the body shop used and how much work you want to do on it.

In my experience with other body kits, often times when you pay for the less expensive stuff, it costs around the same or more due to prep/fitting/and what not.

Let the market decide what's available for the consumer.

i know man. what sucks is my professor's opinions of me are always D- too

Neema seems pissed off

[brandon @ eas]

Originally Posted by Boost_Nation

B+?

And by the way, the OEM E92 M tech bumper is TOTALLY different then this E92 kits bumper...........this is an M5 bumper, the M-tech bumper is specific to the E92 ONLY.

umm...no shit dude, where did you get the impression that I didnt know what I was talking about? I never said they were the same bumper, Im not a moron. I have about 80 pictures saved of the OEM m-tech bumper, so I can assure you I know what is what.

[!Xoible]

you guys should take a deeeeep breath... but keep fighting tho

[brandon @ eas]

one other thing to add, I used to work for the largest volume Mercedes benz dealer in the world, and would see the brabus kits, lorenzer etc roll into the showroom. Not only were they charging about $15-20 thousand dollars for the installed kit, but the quality and fitment of the lorenzer kits were absolutely terrible. ESPECIALLY for that kind of money.

[brandon @ eas]

the fixes that would elevate the E92kits.com front bumper to an A level grade, would literally take 5 minutes of sanding to do, and would prevent any cracks or complaints. I actually blame the body shop I used, for not properly fitting the bumper and not sanding the edges inside the fender arch like any decent shop would.

neema, chill out man

[MMAJNKE]

common guys lets all get along

[oldaccount]

Originally Posted by Boost_Nation

Why cant we get companies like Ferrari's Novitec, Mercedes' Brabus and Lorinser, or other companies like that, with OEM quality parts, for BMW.

because nobody with a 3 series is going to pay $3000 for a front bumper.

[Spool]

I bought the Tokion kit and the fiberglass i thought was very very thin. So i sold it, packaged it, and then it arrived like this to client...could be my packaging, but the material was very very thin...

[tokion]

Originally Posted by Spool

I bought the Tokion kit and the fiberglass i thought was very very thin. So i sold it, packaged it, and then it arrived like this to client...could be my packaging, but the material was very very thin...

May I ask when did you purchased the kit and where did you bought it from?
Do you have a photo of the full bumper? THX

[Spool]

Got it from a member awhile ago...can't see myself putting it on so i just sold it...now have to fight with DHL to get a refund on the damages...this is partly the shipping company's fault, but i do notice the kit is very thin, might've contributed to it....sorry i dont have full pic, receiver just snapped the pics of the damaged parts

Originally Posted by tokion

May I ask when did you purchased the kit and where did you bought it from?
Do you have a photo of the full bumper? THX

i think he purschases it e92kit and boughts it from e92kits alsos

[uhaulball]

Originally Posted by Spool

I bought the Tokion kit and the fiberglass i thought was very very thin. So i sold it, packaged it, and then it arrived like this to client...could be my packaging, but the material was very very thin...

This is how an oem front bumper held up after a small fender bender. could be the packaging, but the material was very very thin...

[!Xoible]

Originally Posted by that guy nico

neema, chill out man

+1 man. he's having a roll...

[Spool]

Originally Posted by uhaulball

This is how an oem front bumper held up after a small fender bender. could be the packaging, but the material was very very thin...

Trying to be smart?

[!Xoible]

Originally Posted by uhaulball

This is how an oem front bumper held up after a small fender bender. could be the packaging, but the material was very very thin...

a small fender bender?!!! im not sure this post is too credible

[!Xoible]

again