[!Xoible]

yah im seriously considering ditching this car dude... he better give me a fuggen good deal

[Ray]

Mantis, do it now! Get it!

[!Xoible]

you mean i should ditch this car, and make another order and wait another 3 months to get the car?

[Ray]

I have no idea what I was suggesting.

[Ray]

you have one on order and found another deal?

[!Xoible]

i have one on order but it is not the best deal. other dealers got me a "better" deal, meaning about 10 bucks cheaper a month.
My CA told me he'll be able to work something out to beat them, but that doesnt sound definite to me. So i do not know if i should ditch the car, or go for it.

[Ray]

Take that deal and see if the dealer you ordered from can match it. If not, cancel (or at least threaten to).

[OC Guy]

You're supposed to negotiate before you order. That being said, your best bet is to not rest on your laurels and talk to your CA now. If it doesn't sound definite, talk to him now, before waiting until your car arrives. Get the deal you are comfortable with and get it in writing.

What deal is he offering you?

[Ray]

ehh, the contract is signed upon pick up of car.

[Ray]

especially for lease since the rates change from month to month. And no customer will sign a contract for a car they can't drive away.

[!Xoible]

Originally Posted by OC 335i

You're supposed to negotiate before you order. That being said, your best bet is to not rest on your laurels and talk to your CA now. If it doesn't sound definite, talk to him now, before waiting until your car arrives. Get the deal you are comfortable with and get it in writing.

What deal is he offering you?

well the thing is it's not hard to give me the deal everyone else is giving me. my complaint is that all the 7 dealers in socal i contacted gave me the exact same figures. mine was just $10+ more gay than everyone else.

the deal is:
$50,075 which is MSRP, no one is willing to deduct a penny. <-- im pissed at this
Residual is 58%
term is 36 months
15k miles a year
MF is 0.0020 <-- im pissed at this too
total drive off including first month's payment is 3000
result: monthly is $750 excluding tax

[OC Guy]

Originally Posted by Ray

ehh, the contract is signed upon pick up of car.

You can still negotiate other things before you pickup the car.

Bank/Acquisition fee
Money Factor (You aren't necessarily locked in, you can get the best rate before you pickup the car), but at least you know how much if any the dealer is marking up. Just because the base money factor is .00xxxx doesn't mean you will get it.
How much off MSRP
etc. etc.

[OC Guy]

Originally Posted by mantisG35

well the thing is it's not hard to give me the deal everyone else is giving me. my complaint is that all the 7 dealers in socal i contacted gave me the exact same figures. mine was just $10+ more gay than everyone else.

the deal is:
$50,075 which is MSRP, no one is willing to deduct a penny. <-- im pissed at this
Residual is 58%
term is 36 months
15k miles a year
MF is 0.0020 <-- im pissed at this too
total drive off including first month's payment is 3000
result: monthly is $750 excluding tax

Really? I thought people were able to get off $5xx-$1xxx off MSRP?

MF = is that base rate? How mcuh are they marking up.
How much is the bank fee?

Why is his deal more expensive when other dealers are willing to do it at the same price (MSRP)? There's something missing here.

0 down, correct?

[!Xoible]

i have no problem in walking away. Fuck him. i still have my car, it's not like I NEED it. i'll just go to another one.

i thought by the time the car comes the G37, audi A5/S5 will be out, so the market for 335 will drop down a bit, and they'll ease up on #'s

[!Xoible]

Originally Posted by OC 335i

Really? I thought people were able to get off $5xx-$1xxx off MSRP?

MF = is that base rate? How mcuh are they marking up.
How much is the bank fee?

Why is his deal more expensive when other dealers are willing to do it at the same price (MSRP)? There's something missing here.

0 down, correct?

i dont know what you consider down. I'm paying 3000 drive-off (fees + first month's payment)

[OC Guy]

If you're not worried about waiting for a car, then why don't you just do European Delivery? It is BELOW U.S. invoice? Just take off for a weekend or a few days.

Down = Down payment, which doesn't include your first/last/fees.

[snohman]

Originally Posted by mantisG35

i have no problem in walking away. Fuck him. i still have my car, it's not like I NEED it. i'll just go to another one.

i thought by the time the car comes the G37, audi A5/S5 will be out, so the market for 335 will drop down a bit, and they'll ease up on #'s

well i guess, those cars aren't fully out/released as of yet, so the dealers will milk the e92 335 for everything they can still. it'll take dealers sitting on some 335's for a while before they start marking them down

[snohman]

Originally Posted by OC 335i

If you're not worried about waiting for a car, then why don't you just do European Delivery? It is BELOW U.S. invoice? Just take off for a weekend or a few days.

Down = Down payment, which doesn't include your first/last/fees.

+1 ED was so worth it!

[OC Guy]

Dealer allows what the market allows them to sell the car for, you can't blame them for that.

[Ray]

Originally Posted by OC 335i

You can still negotiate other things before you pickup the car.

Bank/Acquisition fee
Money Factor (You aren't necessarily locked in, you can get the best rate before you pickup the car), but at least you know how much if any the dealer is marking up. Just because the base money factor is .00xxxx doesn't mean you will get it.
How much off MSRP
etc. etc.

Yeah, but some oc these client advisors hold that with a grain of salt.

I had a decent deal upon ordering my car, then the tides turned when the car arrived and CA was on vacation. Fortunatly I negotiated a better deal with this new CA.

[snohman]

Originally Posted by Ray

Yeah, but some oc these client advisors hold that with a grain of salt.

I had a decent deal upon ordering my car, then the tides turned when the car arrived and CA was on vacation. Fortunatly I negotiated a better deal with this new CA.

LoL
nice!!
I'm glad my CA was pretty straightforward and honest.
I probably could have found a slightly better deal elsewhere, but the service i received from him made it absolutely worth any money I "could have" saved.

[Ray]

Originally Posted by snohman

LoL
nice!!
I'm glad my CA was pretty straightforward and honest.
I probably could have found a slightly better deal elsewhere, but the service i received from him made it absolutely worth any money I "could have" saved.

I'm glad to hear. On many occasions, penny pinching is just not worth it.