Metallic Ticking noise coming from engine?

Ryan323i · 01-11-2010, 01:47 PM

N52. The N54 is the twin-turbo engine in the 335

MrDummy · 01-11-2010, 02:00 PM

^^ thanks, Now I need to research to see if what the tech said about the tick being normal. There is no abnormal sound, like one louder than another, they all sound the same when it does tick. So maybe he is right?

pdude · 01-11-2010, 03:58 PM

I heard the tick in my car twice this winter. Now, how do I go to my SA and say there is a noise, I can't reproduce it, but please replace my heads...? Anyone had success doing this...

llryem · 01-11-2010, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tsuma

Just in case some of you need to show your SA the SB, here's the updated /current one for the HVA noise problem:

http://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/bulletins/...p/B110907g.htm

So I am guessing there is no newer one about replacing the head? Already had the lifters replaced to no avail. I am supposed to take mine back but not sure what they are going to do. Any help would be great.

MrDummy · 01-12-2010, 06:58 AM

I know I have to pull teeth to get them to even think about swapping the lifters so I doubt in my case they would do the whole head, and they heard the ticking 2x now.

llryem · 01-12-2010, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MrDummy

I know I have to pull teeth to get them to even think about swapping the lifters so I doubt in my case they would do the whole head, and they heard the ticking 2x now.

Have you printed the SB for them and taken it to them? How can they dispute that if they have heard the noise twice?

Ryan323i · 01-12-2010, 08:41 AM

Man I guess dealerships differ greatly with their thoughts on this issue. Mine replaced the lifters without even hearing the noise. They shouldn't be able to argue against the SB though!

llryem · 01-12-2010, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkRyan323

Man I guess dealerships differ greatly with their thoughts on this issue. Mine replaced the lifters without even hearing the noise. They shouldn't be able to argue against the SB though!

Did the lifters work for you, because mine came back after a week. Waiting to hear what they are going to do next.

MrDummy · 01-12-2010, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by llryem

Have you printed the SB for them and taken it to them? How can they dispute that if they have heard the noise twice?

Cause they say it is normal for my model year (2006 325xi) engine and it it is caused by the valvetronic or Vanos that causes it and it is perfectly normal. I cant remember which one exactly but they mentioned both of those names.

Thats why I was trying to find out if that is true or not?

Ryan323i · 01-12-2010, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by llryem

Did the lifters work for you, because mine came back after a week. Waiting to hear what they are going to do next.

That repair was in November and I've heard the ticking twice since then so no it didn't work haha. I'm going back in feb 1st and I'm trying to figure out if I'm going to ask them to replace the cylinder head or not.

djsolution · 01-13-2010, 11:12 PM

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but I had my head replaced about 3mos/600 miles ago and the ticking is back. My warranty expired at the end of 2009 too, so imagine my disappointment.

3er BMW · 01-14-2010, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by llryem

So I am guessing there is no newer one about replacing the head? Already had the lifters replaced to no avail. I am supposed to take mine back but not sure what they are going to do. Any help would be great.

Have to be the new improved hva elements !

3er BMW · 01-14-2010, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by djsolution

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but I had my head replaced about 3mos/600 miles ago and the ticking is back. My warranty expired at the end of 2009 too, so imagine my disappointment.

The new head have another 4 years warranty no ?

jim328xi · 01-17-2010, 02:08 PM

ticking is a design flaw
hydraulic lifters should not make noise, indicates lack of contact with resulting wear
a brief history: 07 328xi, first told they can't duplicate, then it's normal, then they will bleed (thanks forum for SB), then lifters, more noise, new car
so now a 2008 328xi - lifter noise from the get go, "new, redesigned 2009" head to be sent from germany (we may have been a test case), may be making noise again, will have to check casting number on head, they may have tweaked it before going into full production and we may have gotten an earlier version
our use is the worst case for this problem, commute of 1 mile in the northeast
bmw may want to evaluate their exclusive use of castrol
but I will repeat, this is not normal, a majority of owners may choose to accept it, but that does not make it ok
thanks forum for the access to all this good info

ska///235i · 01-17-2010, 04:10 PM

2006 325xi had heard ticking sounds before but had this car over 4 years and the engine is still driving fine. I recently change to Mobil1 0w-40 and so far i haven't notice any ticking sound.
i think some of you are over reacting

jim328xi · 01-17-2010, 10:49 PM

while I agree that some people may be overreacting, I seriously doubt BMW would be doing all this warranty work or have given me a new car (a year newer) and then replaced the head on that new car if I were "overreacting". Or maybe BMW is "overreacting"

djsolution · 01-17-2010, 11:05 PM

[QUOTE=3er BMW;6525486]The new head have another 4 years warranty no?

According to the SA, it's a 2 year warranty on any replaced part. He mentioned a mileage limit as well but it slips my mind.

Steven S. · 01-18-2010, 10:58 PM

Hey guy's,

I just purchased an 07 335i conv. in November with a little over 23000 mls on her. I am hearing the ticking noise, too at times. I also seem to hear it when the car is still cold. I have not noticed it after warm-up but will pay more attention now.

I too, would like to have my lifters replaced and will be sure to pay special attention to this issue.

Can someone tell be if their has been a service noticed place by BMW for this issue? Also, can you view service notices or recalls by BMW on this site or somewhere else?

Thanks. New to the forum and very first post!

Steven

llryem · 01-19-2010, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jim328xi

while I agree that some people may be overreacting, I seriously doubt BMW would be doing all this warranty work or have given me a new car (a year newer) and then replaced the head on that new car if I were "overreacting". Or maybe BMW is "overreacting"

wow, i need to go to your dealership. mine had the problem... new lifters, it's back after 3 days and now they tell me that they can't duplicate it. so they won't do anything now. suggestions anyone?

llryem · 01-19-2010, 01:09 PM

Now they are telling me that it is normal. What do I do, go to BMW NA? How will I ever get resell value out of the car with this ticking? Help!!!

kkowalsk · 01-19-2010, 02:19 PM

I had the exhaust lifters replaced. Dealership was very good and did it without any issues. However engine still ticks on cold start-up after short trips. Ticking is not as loud as before, stops sooner and idle stability is better but the lifter replacement did not resolve the issue. At 16k miles this should not be happening. Going back in along with a few other issues. Maybe I am being too critical, however I now think the only true fix is a head replacement.

JRJ1970 · 01-19-2010, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kkowalsk

Maybe I am being too critical, however I now think the only true fix is a head replacement.

Seems to be. I had my head replaced at 12,000 miles. I'm at 17,000 now and it has ticked zero times. Definitely a fix that needs to be enforced.

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pdude Second Lieutenant 17 Rep 210 Posts Drives: 2013 128i - Prem/MSport/AT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Windsor iTrader: (0)	I heard the tick in my car twice this winter. Now, how do I go to my SA and say there is a noise, I can't reproduce it, but please replace my heads...? Anyone had success doing this...
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MrDummy →сяuisiиg iи му вмш← 70 Rep 1,642 Posts Drives: 2010 Space Gray 328i Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Unemployment Capitol of America iTrader: (1) Garage List 2010 BMW 328i [0.00]	I know I have to pull teeth to get them to even think about swapping the lifters so I doubt in my case they would do the whole head, and they heard the ticking 2x now. __________________ SuPerMoD @ MassMonsterz.com A "Happy" Owner of a Metallic Space Gray 2010 BMW 328i ProGaMeR on the XboX 360
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Ryan323i Captain 22 Rep 844 Posts Drives: 2015 320i xDrive Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Columbus, OH iTrader: (0)	Man I guess dealerships differ greatly with their thoughts on this issue. Mine replaced the lifters without even hearing the noise. They shouldn't be able to argue against the SB though! __________________ 2015 320i xDrive \| Imperial Blue Metallic/Black SensaTec \| Sport Package \| Lighting Package \| Moonroof \| Heated front seats Past BMWs: 2006 330i, 2000 323i
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01-13-2010, 11:12 PM	#1221
djsolution Private 3 Rep 95 Posts Drives: 2006 E90 330i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Alexandria, VA iTrader: (0)	Hate to be the bearer of bad news but I had my head replaced about 3mos/600 miles ago and the ticking is back. My warranty expired at the end of 2009 too, so imagine my disappointment. __________________ E90 AW 330i Sport/Premium/Terra
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01-17-2010, 02:08 PM	#1224
jim328xi New Member 0 Rep 7 Posts Drives: 2008 328xi Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: CT iTrader: (0)	ticking not normal ticking is a design flaw hydraulic lifters should not make noise, indicates lack of contact with resulting wear a brief history: 07 328xi, first told they can't duplicate, then it's normal, then they will bleed (thanks forum for SB), then lifters, more noise, new car so now a 2008 328xi - lifter noise from the get go, "new, redesigned 2009" head to be sent from germany (we may have been a test case), may be making noise again, will have to check casting number on head, they may have tweaked it before going into full production and we may have gotten an earlier version our use is the worst case for this problem, commute of 1 mile in the northeast bmw may want to evaluate their exclusive use of castrol but I will repeat, this is not normal, a majority of owners may choose to accept it, but that does not make it ok thanks forum for the access to all this good info
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ska///235i ***** noob 1413 Rep 10,477 Posts Drives: 325xi>M235i>428GCx Mspor Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boston iTrader: (34) Garage List 2006 325xi [0.00]	2006 325xi had heard ticking sounds before but had this car over 4 years and the engine is still driving fine. I recently change to Mobil1 0w-40 and so far i haven't notice any ticking sound. i think some of you are over reacting __________________ 2006 325xi (Sold) 2014 M235I (Current) 2015 428xi Gran Coupe (STB)
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01-17-2010, 10:49 PM	#1226
jim328xi New Member 0 Rep 7 Posts Drives: 2008 328xi Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: CT iTrader: (0)	very expensive way to pacify customers while I agree that some people may be overreacting, I seriously doubt BMW would be doing all this warranty work or have given me a new car (a year newer) and then replaced the head on that new car if I were "overreacting". Or maybe BMW is "overreacting"
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01-17-2010, 11:05 PM	#1227
djsolution Private 3 Rep 95 Posts Drives: 2006 E90 330i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Alexandria, VA iTrader: (0)	[QUOTE=3er BMW;6525486]The new head have another 4 years warranty no? According to the SA, it's a 2 year warranty on any replaced part. He mentioned a mileage limit as well but it slips my mind. __________________ E90 AW 330i Sport/Premium/Terra
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01-18-2010, 10:58 PM	#1228
Steven S. New Member 0 Rep 8 Posts Drives: 335I Conv. Black Sapphire Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: East Coast iTrader: (0)	Hey guy's, I just purchased an 07 335i conv. in November with a little over 23000 mls on her. I am hearing the ticking noise, too at times. I also seem to hear it when the car is still cold. I have not noticed it after warm-up but will pay more attention now. I too, would like to have my lifters replaced and will be sure to pay special attention to this issue. Can someone tell be if their has been a service noticed place by BMW for this issue? Also, can you view service notices or recalls by BMW on this site or somewhere else? Thanks. New to the forum and very first post! Steven
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01-19-2010, 01:09 PM	#1230
llryem New Member 0 Rep 19 Posts Drives: 2006 325i Graphite Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Nashville, TN iTrader: (0)	Not Normal Now they are telling me that it is normal. What do I do, go to BMW NA? How will I ever get resell value out of the car with this ticking? Help!!!
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01-19-2010, 02:19 PM	#1231
kkowalsk Private 35 Rep 90 Posts Drives: E92 328i - Sport Manual Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Perrysburg, Ohio iTrader: (0)	I had the exhaust lifters replaced. Dealership was very good and did it without any issues. However engine still ticks on cold start-up after short trips. Ticking is not as loud as before, stops sooner and idle stability is better but the lifter replacement did not resolve the issue. At 16k miles this should not be happening. Going back in along with a few other issues. Maybe I am being too critical, however I now think the only true fix is a head replacement.
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