Cracked BMW Alloy Wheels --- Taking legal action

Ti Rich · 01-19-2009, 10:17 AM

Why not call as witnesses other people with broken wheels!!!!

Carrera RSR · 01-19-2009, 10:20 AM

Why not get them to do a run out test of your broken wheel, your non broken wheel and a new wheel out of a box in front of the judge!!!!!

Joyrida · 01-19-2009, 10:36 AM

Get as much publicity as possible, do as rede93cab suggested, all individuals with this problem sign up on watchdog, name and shame BMW

watchdog helped my dad out a coupla years ago when Cannon were trying to flease him out of a few grand.

xenon · 01-19-2009, 10:38 AM

If everyone who has actually had this happen to them could submit to Watchdog and / or Which? then it would certainly help. I would also print out this thread so you can demonstrate to the Court that yours is not an isolated incident and that BMWs response to it is so disgusting it borders on criminal.

F31-340i · 01-19-2009, 04:15 PM

...thoughts prompted by an earlier reply above - have you found out what the Germans are doing about this, does it affect the home market?

five50 · 01-19-2009, 06:11 PM

anyone know how to set up a poll / vote on this forum so that we can count the number of people who have had this issue?

willhollin · 01-19-2009, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by five50

anyone know how to set up a poll / vote on this forum so that we can count the number of people who have had this issue?

What do you want on it and i'll do one for you.

vivekk · 01-20-2009, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by five50

anyone know how to set up a poll / vote on this forum so that we can count the number of people who have had this issue?

Let me know exactly which poll choices you all want (minimum 2 choices) & I'll set it up on here.

Viv

SoYank · 01-20-2009, 04:33 PM

Wheel style selection (give popular choices plus other)
Cracks (yes/no/don't know)
Resolved with BMW (yes/no/not yet)

eggs (scrambled, fried, poached, boiled (hard or soft), omelette). Oh, wait, that's another thread.

vivekk · 01-21-2009, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoYank

Wheel style selection (give popular choices plus other)
Cracks (yes/no/don't know)
Resolved with BMW (yes/no/not yet)

eggs (scrambled, fried, poached, boiled (hard or soft), omelette). Oh, wait, that's another thread.

Floyd, that would work better as fields in a database, but not particularly as poll choices, as the overall data will not easily be seen to be linked together for any individual.

Viv

M3-FAST · 01-21-2009, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vivekk

Floyd, that would work better as fields in a database, but not particularly as poll choices, as the overall data will not easily be seen to be linked together for any individual.

Viv

What about making the thread a sticky and then people adding there names to the list if they have had cracked rims.

Could be
Name: Month/Year of car: Wheel Style:
Five 50 - Jan 2007 - 225M
Joe Bloggs - Jan 2007 - 225M

Might be more conclusive than a poll and at least there will a definite 'tally' of numbers and the unlucky few can PM each other to help hatch a plan?

vivekk · 01-21-2009, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redE93cab

What about making the thread a sticky and then people adding there names to the list if they have had cracked rims.

Could be
Name: Month/Year of car: Wheel Style:
Five 50 - Jan 2007 - 225M
Joe Bloggs - Jan 2007 - 225M

Might be more conclusive than a poll and at least there will a definite 'tally' of numbers and the unlucky few can PM each other to help hatch a plan?

Good idea, Paul.

Viv

phazon · 01-21-2009, 06:01 PM

As posted before I am in a very similar position - 2 cracked rears on my e92. I am happy to be involved in any Watchdog/legal case, or whatever we can get going as a group. Lets get the information together and come up with a plan.

Cheers

zedman · 01-22-2009, 07:37 AM

hey party people, check these out....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/bmw-19-M-sport...1%7C240%3A1318

and....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=200300106982

there must be loads everywhere.......!

willhollin · 01-22-2009, 11:51 AM

Thought I would post something on the European forum, one guy from Romania has a cracked alloy.

Will be interesting to see what European dealers are doing about them.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202094

pjs · 01-22-2009, 01:03 PM

Chaps

Following my latest legal advice, I'll be withdrawing the claim. As mentioned earlier, I made an error in addressing it to BMW Group UK (which even though quoted on emails from them doesn't exist ) and therefore a surprise it didnt get struck out earlier. However, on reading the defence which should be attached you'll get the jist. I've been advised that to continue to pursue further I can land my self with a whole amount of grief and could incur BMW's costs, and that I should have gone legal with the supplying Dealer (Sytner Sheffield) in the first place.

For all you out there with the same problem I'm sorry I couldnt get a satisfactory outcome, I just thought if I made enough fuss and caused enough inconvenience I may get my wheels paid for. I sense the scale of the problem means BMW will bury every claim.

We know the score, the wheels are not goood enough for UK roads. I'd love to say I'll never buy another BMW, but I know I will!

So have a read of their defence, It makes interesting reading

Thank you everyone for your support

Just leaves me to set up a new poll for what the old wheels should be used for, Plant pots, Christmas Decs, Coffee Table....

Serjames · 01-22-2009, 01:31 PM

unbelieveable !!!

SJ

willhollin · 01-22-2009, 01:47 PM

I still reckon you should all go to Watchdog, not going to cost financially only people's time, but they will be able to decide if it is worth pursuing. I remember something about Renault Clio bonnet catches they did sometime, and they got a result.

M3-FAST · 01-22-2009, 03:02 PM

F'in tossers!!

Everyone with broken wheels MUST go to watchdog - even if all it achieves is to name and shame, it will do them far more damage financially than paying for a few dozen broken wheels.

I posted the link earlier in the thread....

E92 LeMans · 01-22-2009, 03:38 PM

I agree with every one watchdog is the only way to go.

BMW was at my local garage looking at two set of cracked wheels only rears funny that why dont the fronts crack too perhaps the pot hole get missed with the front.

Carrera RSR · 01-22-2009, 04:08 PM

I've hit a few pot holes and speed ramps in the last few days. Its always the front that takes the beating in my experience, not the rear!

Its also worth checking out what engines are having the problem. Is it just the 330 and 335's with more power/torque through the rears?

E92 LeMans · 01-22-2009, 04:11 PM

I think we should do a poll on cracked 225 ie if you have a car with 225 have they cracked or other answer yes i have 225 but not cracked as this will give us percentage of wheels cracking to number sold.

I think this is a problem for the UK as Msport kits where only sold in the UK as a option most other countries have to by all the option seperatly so cost a fortune

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Joyrida Private 0 Rep 91 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Uk iTrader: (0)	Get as much publicity as possible, do as rede93cab suggested, all individuals with this problem sign up on watchdog, name and shame BMW watchdog helped my dad out a coupla years ago when Cannon were trying to flease him out of a few grand.
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xenon Major General 1464 Rep 8,192 Posts Drives: 2021 G21 330i M-Sport Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Coventry iTrader: (0)	If everyone who has actually had this happen to them could submit to Watchdog and / or Which? then it would certainly help. I would also print out this thread so you can demonstrate to the Court that yours is not an isolated incident and that BMWs response to it is so disgusting it borders on criminal. __________________ Ian Current: 2021 G21 330i M-Sport Previous: 2018 A6 Avant S-Line MMI+, 2014 F31 320d M-Sport, 2013 F10 520d M-Sport, 2011 F10 530d M-Sport, 2008 320i M-Sport Coupe, 2002 325i, 2001 318i valvetronic, 1998 318i, 1996 525i, 1990 Porsche 944S2
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F31-340i Colonel 160 Rep 2,475 Posts Drives: BMW 340i Touring Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ... iTrader: (1)	...thoughts prompted by an earlier reply above - have you found out what the Germans are doing about this, does it affect the home market?
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01-19-2009, 06:11 PM	#116
five50 New Member 4 Rep 17 Posts Drives: 335d Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: uk iTrader: (0)	anyone know how to set up a poll / vote on this forum so that we can count the number of people who have had this issue?
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phazon Enlisted Member 4 Rep 34 Posts Drives: e92 335d Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Surrey, UK iTrader: (0)	As posted before I am in a very similar position - 2 cracked rears on my e92. I am happy to be involved in any Watchdog/legal case, or whatever we can get going as a group. Lets get the information together and come up with a plan. Cheers
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zedman First Lieutenant 14 Rep 389 Posts Drives: E92 M Sport 320D, Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sheffield iTrader: (0)	hey party people, check these out.... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/bmw-19-M-sport...1%7C240%3A1318 and.... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=200300106982 there must be loads everywhere.......!
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willhollin Major General 269 Rep 9,914 Posts Drives: VW T5 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Worcestershire iTrader: (1) Garage List 2007 BMW E92 330d SE [10.00] 2010 Transporter T5 ... [0.00]	Thought I would post something on the European forum, one guy from Romania has a cracked alloy. Will be interesting to see what European dealers are doing about them. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202094 __________________
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01-22-2009, 01:03 PM	#126
pjs Colonel 284 Rep 2,774 Posts Drives: i8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NORTH iTrader: (1)	Regretful withdrawal Chaps Following my latest legal advice, I'll be withdrawing the claim. As mentioned earlier, I made an error in addressing it to BMW Group UK (which even though quoted on emails from them doesn't exist ) and therefore a surprise it didnt get struck out earlier. However, on reading the defence which should be attached you'll get the jist. I've been advised that to continue to pursue further I can land my self with a whole amount of grief and could incur BMW's costs, and that I should have gone legal with the supplying Dealer (Sytner Sheffield) in the first place. For all you out there with the same problem I'm sorry I couldnt get a satisfactory outcome, I just thought if I made enough fuss and caused enough inconvenience I may get my wheels paid for. I sense the scale of the problem means BMW will bury every claim. We know the score, the wheels are not goood enough for UK roads. I'd love to say I'll never buy another BMW, but I know I will! So have a read of their defence, It makes interesting reading Thank you everyone for your support Just leaves me to set up a new poll for what the old wheels should be used for, Plant pots, Christmas Decs, Coffee Table.... Attached Images
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willhollin Major General 269 Rep 9,914 Posts Drives: VW T5 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Worcestershire iTrader: (1) Garage List 2007 BMW E92 330d SE [10.00] 2010 Transporter T5 ... [0.00]	I still reckon you should all go to Watchdog, not going to cost financially only people's time, but they will be able to decide if it is worth pursuing. I remember something about Renault Clio bonnet catches they did sometime, and they got a result. __________________
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01-22-2009, 03:38 PM	#130
E92 LeMans Second Lieutenant 9 Rep 296 Posts Drives: E92 330d M Sport Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: London iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 M235i [0.00] 2007 330d M Sport [0.00]	I agree with every one watchdog is the only way to go. BMW was at my local garage looking at two set of cracked wheels only rears funny that why dont the fronts crack too perhaps the pot hole get missed with the front. __________________
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Carrera RSR Colonel 75 Rep 2,937 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Location: Location: iTrader: (1)	I've hit a few pot holes and speed ramps in the last few days. Its always the front that takes the beating in my experience, not the rear! Its also worth checking out what engines are having the problem. Is it just the 330 and 335's with more power/torque through the rears?
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01-22-2009, 04:11 PM	#132
E92 LeMans Second Lieutenant 9 Rep 296 Posts Drives: E92 330d M Sport Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: London iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 M235i [0.00] 2007 330d M Sport [0.00]	I think we should do a poll on cracked 225 I think we should do a poll on cracked 225 ie if you have a car with 225 have they cracked or other answer yes i have 225 but not cracked as this will give us percentage of wheels cracking to number sold. I think this is a problem for the UK as Msport kits where only sold in the UK as a option most other countries have to by all the option seperatly so cost a fortune __________________
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