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      10-02-2021, 01:21 AM   #111
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Yes, that works. I even had a project file named for this. My memory is really failing me. LOL

Attached is the Bimmerlabs ZIP file with the modified 325EU tune. Powerclass set to 0. This should run on an unlocked MSV70 controlling the 2.5 Liter N52 323 EU.
Hi rjahl: THX thank you very much. Yesterday I also thought that you helped EvaBmw not long ago. I think he is in the same situation as my E90-323i-EU. The way you help him should be the same, and EvaBmw is also MSV70. So now I should do 1.Flash RSA
2. Flash the program you provide. Do I need to do anything with the automatic transmission afterwards? Because you have seen Evabmw's -ZF trans tone. You say it looks terrible.
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rjahl, not sure if this is helpful to you or not but the VB12 ZB number i found when i started this thread was 7581280 which was from a EU 325i. It worked on my car.
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Hi rjahl: THX thank you very much. Yesterday I also thought that you helped EvaBmw not long ago. I think he is in the same situation as my E90-323i-EU. The way you help him should be the same, and EvaBmw is also MSV70. So now I should do 1.Flash RSA
2. Flash the program you provide. Do I need to do anything with the automatic transmission afterwards? Because you have seen Evabmw's -ZF trans tone. You say it looks terrible.


first, check your hardware and settings. Make sure everything works well with INPA, I like to check for stored errors. If the Connection with INPA is probabilistic, fix that first!

Then flash the RSA delete followed up by the 325 I tune.

transmission flash, It's optional. You could probably flash the 325 I flash for the ZF transmission but you mush have the updated DCAN cables such as the Bimmergeeks version. Anything else will brick the trans.

I need to look at my files and see if I have anything specific for the ZF behind a 2.5 liter motor. I'm sure the shift maps will be different but most of the shift pressures and timing will be the same as the 3.0 Liter motors.
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first, check your hardware and settings. Make sure everything works well with INPA, I like to check for stored errors. If the Connection with INPA is probabilistic, fix that first!

Then flash the RSA delete followed up by the 325 I tune.

transmission flash, It's optional. You could probably flash the 325 I flash for the ZF transmission but you mush have the updated DCAN cables such as the Bimmergeeks version. Anything else will brick the trans.

I need to look at my files and see if I have anything specific for the ZF behind a 2.5 liter motor. I'm sure the shift maps will be different but most of the shift pressures and timing will be the same as the 3.0 Liter motors.

Yes, rjahl, to complete the flashing, I ordered the Bimmergeeks version of the DCAN cable; is flash automatic transmission the same as using Winkfp? What happens to the automatic gearbox if I don’t flash it? Only 6600 maximum RPM (engine protection)? Not 7000RPM?
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Car ran really well today. Not as much of i power difference as i thought there would be but definitely noticeable. It seems to be more mid range power. Economy is the same 7.7 L/100km on my work trip. All in all i think it was a worthwhile mod to do. More power and the same fuel economy which is a great result.

Yeah it shifts at 6500rpm which is the redline on my cluster, doesn't matter what mode your in. It really pisses me off some days. The kickdown takes about 2 secs before it actually works. I always wondered why people called autos slush boxes. Now i know.
Hi Evabmw :Has your gearbox been flashed? Can the rpm be like 325i?
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Hi Evabmw :Has your gearbox been flashed? Can the rpm be like 325i?
I need to look at your trans calibration files, 6,500 seems really low,
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I need to look at your trans calibration files, 6,500 seems really low,

Rjahl how do I provide you with trans calibration files?
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OK, after some research the ZF versions of the 2.5 liter 323 tunes are horrible. Everything shifts early. If you have the ZF trans and an engine tune that produces power above 6400 RPM, you certainly want the 325 ZF tune or better.
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OK, after some research the ZF versions of the 2.5 liter 323 tunes are horrible. Everything shifts early. If you have the ZF trans and an engine tune that produces power above 6400 RPM, you certainly want the 325 ZF tune or better.

I believe the situation should be the same as the evabmw car. Perhaps using xhp is also a way to correct it. Is the gearbox tune you adjusted for evabmw still on file?
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I believe the situation should be the same as the evabmw car. Perhaps using xhp is also a way to correct it. Is the gearbox tune you adjusted for evabmw still on file?
It's probably still in my Bimmerlabs account. I will check.
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It's probably still in my Bimmerlabs account. I will check.
Thank you so much,Waiting for your good news。
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I have the files but they exceed the maximum allowed upload size. Can't pm them either. There are 2 trans files in my Bimmerlabs account one has a ZB number of 7564086 the other is 7564088. The ZB number of my trans is 7564086. Are these numbers any help rjahl ?

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I have the files but they exceed the maximum allowed upload size. Can't pm them either. There are 2 trans files in my Bimmerlabs account one has a ZB number of 7564086 the other is 7564088. The ZB number of my trans is 7564086. Are these numbers any help rjahl ?

Hi EvaBmw can you tell me about your car the rpm be like 325i?

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Hi EvaBmw can you tell me about your car the rpm be like 325i? I will give you my bimmerlabs account and password

THX help
Yes shifts a lot better and 7000rpm limit.
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I have the files but they exceed the maximum allowed upload size. Can't pm them either. There are 2 trans files in my Bimmerlabs account one has a ZB number of 7564086 the other is 7564088. The ZB number of my trans is 7564086. Are these numbers any help rjahl ?
I these files, thanks
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I believe the situation should be the same as the evabmw car. Perhaps using xhp is also a way to correct it. Is the gearbox tune you adjusted for evabmw still on file?
If you have the ZF trans, running a standard ZF tune for the 325 or 330 will make a difference.

Just remember, you really need the upgrade your engine tune or the transmission will shift way too late. Your base engine tune has peek HP at something like 5,900 RPM

The standard tunes can easily be found in the Daten folders. Hassmachine took this service down as too many people were bricking their TCU's with the wrong files and Dcan cables. With the correct Dcan cable and BMW standard tools, you can flash these stock files with winfKP

BTY, I cleared my mailbox.
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If you have the ZF trans, running a standard ZF tune for the 325 or 330 will make a difference.

Just remember, you really need the upgrade your engine tune or the transmission will shift way too late. Your base engine tune has peek HP at something like 5,900 RPM

The standard tunes can easily be found in the Daten folders. Hassmachine took this service down as too many people were bricking their TCU's with the wrong files and Dcan cables. With the correct Dcan cable and BMW standard tools, you can flash these stock files with winfKP

BTY, I cleared my mailbox.

rjah:I send my Bimmerlabs account to you,and I have ZF trans , I can understand the reason for Hassmachine to shut down the service, and I will pay attention to your reminder.
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rjah:I send my Bimmerlabs account to you,and I have ZF trans , I can understand the reason for Hassmachine to shut down the service, and I will pay attention to your reminder.
rjah:I have finished flashing the DME, the next step is to wait for your gearbox tune to help me
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rjah:I have finished flashing the DME, the next step is to wait for your gearbox tune to help me
Cool, how does it run?
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Cool, how does it run?
rjahl:After flashing DME, I feel that the power has increased, but the gearbox shift time will be delayed, as Evabmw said. I hope I can do something to improve the gearbox. I don’t know when I can get yours tune, help me finish, or do I flash XHP? Improve the coordination between DME and gearbox?
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rjahl:After flashing DME, I feel that the power has increased, but the gearbox shift time will be delayed, as Evabmw said. I hope I can do something to improve the gearbox. I don’t know when I can get yours tune, help me finish, or do I flash XHP? Improve the coordination between DME and gearbox?
Check your Bimmerlabs account
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