New PROcede CANbus maps (4-22)

Kelvin1000 · 04-28-2009, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by creaminz

91 oct crappy CA gas

Only DCI and you r running Stage II ? hmmm...I will Dyno it once I install everything.

Only DCIs and 93 Shell gas actually and I the dyno confirms 10whp more for the 2-19 maps. Don't have prove on these new ones yet.

Kbueno · 04-28-2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelvin1000

Are you comparing these new maps to the 2-19 maps or the BETA CANbus?

Sorry...yah Beta CANbus

Kelvin1000 · 04-28-2009, 06:30 PM

In that case, I agree with your review, the final CANbus maps are smoother and better overall but not necessarily more powerful than the BETA CANbus.

Still a pretty big change from the 2-19 maps IMHO though...

cn555ic · 04-28-2009, 09:34 PM

IS there a noticeable difference between the beta canbus maps 3-24 to the 4-22 maps? I hear alot of comparison to 2-19 maps but what about the 3-24 comparison?

creaminz · 04-29-2009, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by cn555ic

IS there a noticeable difference between the beta canbus maps 3-24 to the 4-22 maps? I hear alot of comparison to 2-19 maps but what about the 3-24 comparison?

I feel better feel/power on the low-end. Car just accelerates faster and smoother. To me 4-22 map is by far the best.

TMR · 04-29-2009, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by creaminz

I feel better feel/power on the low-end. Car just accelerates faster and smoother. To me 4-22 map is by far the best.

I agree!!!

cn555ic · 04-29-2009, 07:10 AM

cool...I loved the power of the 3-24 map and just wanted to understand if there was a difference, I guess i will give it a try!

cstmx_ryder · 04-29-2009, 11:21 AM

I remember a member tried these maps on his Rev.I Non Canbus and said he felt the diff too.

Can this member chime in for an update? Really curious as to how it holds up, is there any codes thrown yet?

Anyone else tried running these maps on their Rev.I ? Not sure if it's a good idea.......

Sniz · 04-29-2009, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by cstmx_ryder

I remember a member tried these maps on his Rev.I Non Canbus and said he felt the diff too.

Can this member chime in for an update? Really curious as to how it holds up, is there any codes thrown yet?

Anyone else tried running these maps on their Rev.I ? Not sure if it's a good idea.......

i cant imagine that is a good idea, who did that?

cstmx_ryder · 04-29-2009, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince ///M

I tried Stage I can bus map on NON can Bus REV I and for the moment it seems very consistent and way more powerful respect to my previous stage 0 non DD @90% ut.

More tests will follow with BT and Procede reader crossed datalogs.

Bye.

^^

OpenFlash · 04-29-2009, 01:35 PM

Map1 = Map2 version of the new maps coming out later today. I will also revise the Map2 = Race gas maps to be less misfire prone for all you people with old plugs

Shiv

mwahlert · 04-29-2009, 01:42 PM

how about the ability to enable lag fix on one map but not the other - thanks

badass335 · 04-29-2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Map1 = Map2 version of the new maps coming out later today. I will also revise the Map2 = Race gas maps to be less misfire prone for all you people with old plugs

Shiv

My plugs are brand new. One of my injectors is new and still misfiring. I had 1000k's on 1 set of plugs, had issues, car went in for service, came out and i replaced the plugs again just to be sure. On the race map I get misfires still. Looking forward to trying this new map out! I have 5 gals of 104Octane in my garage CALLING MY NAME!!!!!

(And a list of cars that need to get my exhaust!

)

vase330 · 04-29-2009, 02:18 PM

Anyone know how much extra is there from the non-CANbus 2-14 maps? Shiv when is the auto-tune feature going to be available? Does it take into consideration cold start, and is valet mode still there? Valet mode is important so hopefully its not been ditched.

edo · 04-29-2009, 02:23 PM

Shiv's alive!

Ilma · 04-29-2009, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Map1 = Map2 version of the new maps coming out later today. I will also revise the Map2 = Race gas maps to be less misfire prone for all you people with old plugs

Shiv

Ummmm....let me be one of the few who at least says thank-you Shiv.

cbad335 · 04-29-2009, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ilma

Ummmm....let me be one of the few who at least says thank-you Shiv.

I'll second that.

OpenFlash · 04-29-2009, 03:39 PM

awww.. you're all welcome

FotiosF90M5 · 04-29-2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Map1 = Map2 version of the new maps coming out later today. I will also revise the Map2 = Race gas maps to be less misfire prone for all you people with old plugs

Shiv

nice. just what im waiting for.

Prince ///M · 04-29-2009, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cstmx_ryder

^^

I'm here...
In the datalog you can see a comparison between stage 0 non DD 85%ut and Can bus stage 1 70%ut (on Rev I, of course).

In a VI gear acceleration from 45 to 82 mph with the new maps you can gain 0.4 seconds, so the advantage at low rpm (1500-3000) is real... and you can feel it beside the numbers.

No significant gain above 3000 rpm.

Other things to notice:

-Fuel correction seems to be higher with better (lower) A/F (IMHO)

-Boost levels are almost identical (a little bit higher on canbus)

-Overall timing is not so stable on N54, but Procede correction over boost seems to be the same, very low, on both maps (maybe on true canbus things are different but no one has performed logs...

)

-Timing correction off boost is more "erratic". On non canbus it stays always on +4deg. On canbus seems to stay on "0" by default and +4 status is induced only after a relevant sustained boost value. After the activation it tapers slowly again to 0 if no boost is requested.

-Detection codes everywhere with canbus (very rare on non DD at 85%)

I hope this can help.

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cn555ic 456 Rep 18,331 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: US iTrader: (6)	cool...I loved the power of the 3-24 map and just wanted to understand if there was a difference, I guess i will give it a try!
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