N54 Tune Comparison Chart (Detailed)

Murph335 · 10-29-2010, 11:26 PM

On the jb3 site it says map 5 needs 93 oct. Your list says 91oct plus dci throws down a great number! What gives?

vasillalov · 10-30-2010, 10:50 AM

This chart is also missing GIAC Stage 2!

Also, you GIAC advertises Stage 1 to gain 40-80 hp and 60-90 tq. I think you are selling this tune short.

Source:
http://giacusa.com/programs.php?mpid=493

lyndon_h · 10-30-2010, 05:47 PM

No good deed goes unpunished.

zzzbullseye · 10-31-2010, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by lyndon_h

No good deed goes unpunished.

Ain't that the truth...

FedeM · 11-03-2010, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AltecBX

Ill definitely will be looking at this when I get back to states side. I'm in Sorrento, Italy now on vacation with the Fiancé. You guys have been working hard on the new products lately.

Nice choice

newdadkel · 11-16-2010, 01:01 PM

This is a great idea and I'm sure took a lot of work to do to compile all of this data. Thanks! This is a tremendous help for a newbie who is interested in getting the most out of his car (me!!!) Sine I am now deciding on a tune, this is extremely useful.

carlmike · 11-26-2010, 01:38 AM

Hi AltecBX,

Awesome stuff. In your research, did you come across some information/statistics about troubles (engine failures, voided warrenties due to detection, etc) for the different tuners that you could share with us? Are some safer than others?

AltecBX · 11-26-2010, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by carlmike

Hi AltecBX,

Awesome stuff. In your research, did you come across some information/statistics about troubles (engine failures, voided warrenties due to detection, etc) for the different tuners that you could share with us? Are some safer than others?

There really hasn't been to much engine failures with these tunes. You start getting into trouble if you really start pushing the envelope by increasing boost over 20+ psi. As for warranties and detection issues, it all depends on your relationship with dealer. If you have on of these tunes installed, remove it before going into a dealership if you're going to do major work to your car, no matter how much you know them(turbo replacement, wastegates, fuel-pump,plugs&coils, etc). If its light work like(oil change, brakes, air filter, software updates, etc) in the most part you'll be fine leaving it in.

Litos · 12-18-2010, 08:32 PM

cabophisher · 12-20-2010, 03:18 PM

Great post. I've had my JB3 for about 12 months and love it. I have always wondered if there is a benefit to buying the $1000+ tuners.

By the way. BimmerSpeed is giving 15% off any cp-e products during their grand opening. The coupon code is CPE15. I think it works for other stuff too. www.bimmerspeed.net

vasillalov · 12-20-2010, 08:19 PM

Dude,

For the 1000-th time, add GIAC Stage 2 and Stage 2+....

AltecBX · 12-20-2010, 09:48 PM

I'll work on it this coming month. I've been waiting on the new product from BMS to come out that was suppose to be out by year end.

AltecBX · 12-22-2010, 06:08 AM

Updated!

joed1 · 12-22-2010, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by AltecBX

Updated!

Thanks for taking the time to summarize all the testing data out there.

Being new to this forum, as well as BMW, it is difficult to get objective data and impressions. All here are very passionate about their opinions and their cars, rightfully so.

You have made it a one stop shopping post.

dc5_champ88 · 01-25-2011, 01:28 PM

new list to include JB4?

AltecBX · 01-25-2011, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dc5_champ88

new list to include JB4?

I'm working on this in the next coming weeks.

dc5_champ88 · 01-25-2011, 03:34 PM

excellent! cant wait

Gunzaro · 01-29-2011, 08:19 PM

I think the ESS directflash tune for the N54 should be put onto the chart...stage 1 and stage 2.

DirectFlash Stage 1 :
Top Speed Governor: Removed
RPM Limit: 7000RPM
Fuel requirement: 91US/95Euro
Horsepower: 355 DIN (Stock 306)
Torque: 480NM (Stock 400NM)

DirectFlash Stage 2 :
Top Speed Governor: Removed
RPM Limit: 7200RPM
Fuel requirement: 93US/98Euro
Horsepower: 400 DIN (Stock 306) - 390DIN if used with stock intercooler
Torque: 550NM (Stock 400NM)

It is a very valid option for the N54 and it works straight up...PnP.

BGEU · 01-29-2011, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dieselmitchell

oh i almost forgot. first to preface, i have not had first hand experience with Dinan or their ecu upgrades; however, from second hand accounts and research on their website I have come to the understanding that certain mods (i.e. the ecu flash) do void your BMW factory warranty.... although dinan, in turn, picks up the warranty where BMW left off. therefore, since you have ht Dinan flash, your BMW warranty does not exist; Dinan now bears the responsibility of said warranty... anyone please correct me if i have misspoken. or verify if you can.

The Dinan mode does not cancel the BMW NA warranty. I had Danin S2 installed on my 335i at the Dinan shop immediately after I bought the car. Since than I had many warranty services done in my local BMW dealership, including updates of the Dinan software without any problems. Just the opposite, they give you a special attention.

boostm3 · 02-06-2011, 07:07 PM

I rarely see any love for the Split Second TT2 piggyback sold by Bavauto.. Im thinking of a software product for my N55 135i and am just surveying the field. Since I have years left on my new car warranty/srvc, which of these products is easiest to remove and reinstall? I realize the JB4 is not available, nor the Procede as of yet.. The Cobb Accessport sounds ideal to me because its a flash and no hardware to remove. But it, too, is not N55 ready yet. However the TT2 does seem to be sold for the N55s.. comments? thanks.

Airnow · 02-11-2011, 10:49 AM

How is JB4 compared to JB3? I just installed JB3!

Litos · 02-13-2011, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Airnow

How is JB4 compared to JB3? I just installed JB3!

from what i've read, it appears that the JB4 makes more power and is a bit smoother during driving AND wide open throttle conditions.

but the steering controls and "on the fly map switching" seems to be really giving JB4 a head of steam.

10-29-2010, 11:26 PM	#111
Murph335 Major 145 Rep 1,423 Posts Drives: '07 N54 e90, '10 N54 e93, TBSS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ iTrader: (12) Garage List 2015 Tesla P85D [0.00]	On the jb3 site it says map 5 needs 93 oct. Your list says 91oct plus dci throws down a great number! What gives? __________________ E90 - H&R Touring - M3 Front Arms - Work Genosis GS-1 19x9+30 x10+26 225f 265r stretch - AA FMIC - AR DP - Cobb E30 Map +160rwhp/+200rwtq E93 - Style 95 - RB Turbo - AR DP - Evolution RW FMIC - PTF E50 +242rwhp/+234rwtq
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10-30-2010, 10:50 AM	#112
vasillalov Mad Linux Guru On The Loose 1180 Rep 5,452 Posts Drives: 2008 335i Sedan, 2023 M3 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago, IL iTrader: (5) Garage List 2023 BMW M3 [0.00] 2008 335i E90 [8.00]	This chart is also missing GIAC Stage 2! Also, you GIAC advertises Stage 1 to gain 40-80 hp and 60-90 tq. I think you are selling this tune short. Source: http://giacusa.com/programs.php?mpid=493 __________________
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10-30-2010, 05:47 PM	#113
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11-16-2010, 01:01 PM	#116
newdadkel Private First Class 58 Rep 192 Posts Drives: 2011 X6M CBM Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Texas iTrader: (0)	This is a great idea and I'm sure took a lot of work to do to compile all of this data. Thanks! This is a tremendous help for a newbie who is interested in getting the most out of his car (me!!!) Sine I am now deciding on a tune, this is extremely useful.
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11-26-2010, 01:38 AM	#117
carlmike Registered 0 Rep 1 Posts Drives: 135i Convertible Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (0)	Hi AltecBX, Awesome stuff. In your research, did you come across some information/statistics about troubles (engine failures, voided warrenties due to detection, etc) for the different tuners that you could share with us? Are some safer than others?
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12-18-2010, 08:32 PM	#119
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12-20-2010, 03:18 PM	#120
cabophisher Private 8 Rep 74 Posts Drives: Frozen Black M3 CP Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Dallas iTrader: (0)	Great post. I've had my JB3 for about 12 months and love it. I have always wondered if there is a benefit to buying the $1000+ tuners. By the way. BimmerSpeed is giving 15% off any cp-e products during their grand opening. The coupon code is CPE15. I think it works for other stuff too. www.bimmerspeed.net
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12-20-2010, 08:19 PM	#121
vasillalov Mad Linux Guru On The Loose 1180 Rep 5,452 Posts Drives: 2008 335i Sedan, 2023 M3 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago, IL iTrader: (5) Garage List 2023 BMW M3 [0.00] 2008 335i E90 [8.00]	Dude, For the 1000-th time, add GIAC Stage 2 and Stage 2+.... __________________
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12-20-2010, 09:48 PM	#122
AltecBX Colonel 335 Rep 2,663 Posts Drives: BMW 335xi Sedan; BMW M3 ZCP Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NYC iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 BMW M3 ZCP [0.00] 2007 BMW 335Xi [0.00]	I'll work on it this coming month. I've been waiting on the new product from BMS to come out that was suppose to be out by year end. __________________ 335xi Sedan 6AT \| Weather(70-85°F) \| N54 Tune Comparison Chart \|\| N54 Turbo Upgrade Comparison Chart -PROcede Rev. 2.5 ~ v5 (3/17 maps) / JB4 (8/21 maps) / COBB (Stg2+FMIC LT Aggressive maps) †Procede Map2(UT 45 - IGN 40) Aggression Target 2.0 \| 0-60 in 4.0sec \|\| †Cobb E30 LT (35% Ethanol/65% 93 Octane) \| 0-60 in 3.9sec AR Design Catless DP \| BMS DCI + OCC \| ETS 5 FMIC \| Alpina B3 Trans Flash \|235/265 19" Michelin PSS
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12-22-2010, 06:08 AM	#123
AltecBX Colonel 335 Rep 2,663 Posts Drives: BMW 335xi Sedan; BMW M3 ZCP Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NYC iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 BMW M3 ZCP [0.00] 2007 BMW 335Xi [0.00]	Updated! __________________ 335xi Sedan 6AT \| Weather(70-85°F) \| N54 Tune Comparison Chart \|\| N54 Turbo Upgrade Comparison Chart -PROcede Rev. 2.5 ~ v5 (3/17 maps) / JB4 (8/21 maps) / COBB (Stg2+FMIC LT Aggressive maps) †Procede Map2(UT 45 - IGN 40) Aggression Target 2.0 \| 0-60 in 4.0sec \|\| †Cobb E30 LT (35% Ethanol/65% 93 Octane) \| 0-60 in 3.9sec AR Design Catless DP \| BMS DCI + OCC \| ETS 5 FMIC \| Alpina B3 Trans Flash \|235/265 19" Michelin PSS
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01-25-2011, 01:28 PM	#125
dc5_champ88 Captain 24 Rep 666 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 335i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Maryland iTrader: (5) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i [0.00]	new list to include JB4? __________________ Current: 07 e92 335i: JB4, AA Catless DP, Big Tom FMIC, CP-e Full Exhaust, Injen Intake, Type-S BOV, Meth Previous: 03 Acura RSX-S: Boosted 400WHP (SOLD)
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01-25-2011, 03:34 PM	#127
dc5_champ88 Captain 24 Rep 666 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 335i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Maryland iTrader: (5) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i [0.00]	excellent! cant wait __________________ Current: 07 e92 335i: JB4, AA Catless DP, Big Tom FMIC, CP-e Full Exhaust, Injen Intake, Type-S BOV, Meth Previous: 03 Acura RSX-S: Boosted 400WHP (SOLD)
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01-29-2011, 08:19 PM	#128
Gunzaro First Lieutenant 41 Rep 378 Posts Drives: Speed Racer Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: In transit iTrader: (0)	I think the ESS directflash tune for the N54 should be put onto the chart...stage 1 and stage 2. DirectFlash Stage 1 : Top Speed Governor: Removed RPM Limit: 7000RPM Fuel requirement: 91US/95Euro Horsepower: 355 DIN (Stock 306) Torque: 480NM (Stock 400NM) DirectFlash Stage 2 : Top Speed Governor: Removed RPM Limit: 7200RPM Fuel requirement: 93US/98Euro Horsepower: 400 DIN (Stock 306) - 390DIN if used with stock intercooler Torque: 550NM (Stock 400NM) It is a very valid option for the N54 and it works straight up...PnP.
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02-06-2011, 07:07 PM	#130
boostm3 Lieutenant Colonel 693 Rep 1,608 Posts Drives: '18 LBB M2 6MT Exec Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Parkland, Fl iTrader: (0)	I rarely see any love for the Split Second TT2 piggyback sold by Bavauto.. Im thinking of a software product for my N55 135i and am just surveying the field. Since I have years left on my new car warranty/srvc, which of these products is easiest to remove and reinstall? I realize the JB4 is not available, nor the Procede as of yet.. The Cobb Accessport sounds ideal to me because its a flash and no hardware to remove. But it, too, is not N55 ready yet. However the TT2 does seem to be sold for the N55s.. comments? thanks. __________________ Boostm3 '18 LBB MT M2 Exec pkg, Moonroof, Production 7/6/17 Last edited by boostm3; 02-06-2011 at 07:12 PM..
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02-11-2011, 10:49 AM	#131
Airnow New Member 0 Rep 9 Posts Drives: E93 335i Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Singapore iTrader: (0)	How is JB4 compared to JB3? I just installed JB3!
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