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      12-31-2014, 02:23 PM   #111
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Do you own or have your driven an N54 with DCT and compared in order to know if the DCT is performing "perfect tranmission shifting" ?
I don't own a DCT (6mt 335) but I've driven a few. BMS owns three DCT cars. If things are set wrong in the flash the DCT can slip. And there are plenty of customers floating around with a too-weak or out of date back end flash map, JB4 not optimized, etc, that can benefit from having an experienced tuner come in, review logs, and make adjustments. I'd encourage anyone looking for help in optimizing their JB4 setup to take advantage of BMS' tuning support.

There is a lot in the works currently for 2015 with JB4 and back end flash maps so people shouldn't presume that the stuff they were running last year or even last month is representative of the new stuff being developed now. One big strength of the JB4 and the free back end flash mapping is how versatile and adaptive it is.

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Solid numbers but if you only made 411 with the JB4 and backend flash then your flash wasn't set up correctly. I've seen several JB4 backend flash cars dyno 430+ SAE no Meth. Meth I've seen 450+. Not trying to compare but obviously you've never ran the new BMS E85 flash on map 7 with E60 fuel and Meth. Glad you're pleased with your custom flash though. That's all that really matters.
Funny you're saying this cause if I was offered the same backend flash to be satisfied enough from burger then I wouldn't need to spend the extra 200 bucks through wedge performance isn,'t it? I have always respected burger tuning and I still do but really there was really little on what they could offer me even when I showed them the logs of my run with their back end flash. The next thing I was told was the cobb platform wasn't supported anymore. Thus what can I do?

It was only when wedge offered their tune on cobb alone and even if I was skeptical in the beginning they proved me wrong, if the car was faster I'd say it was and iF it wasn't I'd report the same,

I was running on map 5 with 93 pump and I got constant 370 whp on the same dynojet.

Yes some guys report higher whp in the US but don't forget am not from the US. Weather here is way different. In any case its only dyno numbers what I experienced after the wedge tune cannot be treated as just subtle. It was a massive improvement and believe me being a pilot of an 8 sec drag car I know what to expect out of improvements in power if any.

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      12-31-2014, 05:26 PM   #113
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You said your tune is based off the Wedge performance aggressive map? Where can I get a copy of this map to try out?
Email me for more information.
I have a DCT 'is' and was wondering if you were able to tune out some of the initial throttle delay. Only thing I miss about not having a 6MT.

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Dont take what I am going to say the wrong way here. Weather conditions, and geographical location make a big difference. If you make 430+whp here in the US does not mean you will make the same power gains in another part of the world especially a more rigorous climate than South Florida. Yes the gains and losses can be of significant difference.
I agree with this, but also think it should apply to track results as well..
How do your tunes results (dyno & track) compare to comparable cars in your specific geographical locations?

I recently dyno'd my self tuned cobb map at the recent EAS dyno day and made very close numbers to similar setups with Jb4 with backend flash.. Would you be willing to provide a Godzilla map for comparison at their next dyno day? It would be interesting to see how much more power you guys have found with your tuning approach..
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I have a DCT 'is' and was wondering if you were able to tune out some of the initial throttle delay. Only thing I miss about not having a 6MT.

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Believe me there isn't throttle delays with our dct's if done correctly. Something which I find more enjoyable than a MT these days ....on a BMW that is..
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I have a DCT 'is' and was wondering if you were able to tune out some of the initial throttle delay. Only thing I miss about not having a 6MT.

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Yes, infact sometimes its soo sensative people have asked us to turn it down

All my 335is tuning was molded to an MT feel as I grew up on MT cars.
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      12-31-2014, 10:31 PM   #117
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I agree with this, but also think it should apply to track results as well..
I trapped 121-122 mph in the 1/4 miles with a 2.2-2.3 60' no meth, no race gas, fullweight, half tank of fuel, heavy driver, and Im not cattless. The trap speeds were consistent back to back, not a one time miracle.

This is how I test for reliable and consistent power when I make a maps

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How do your tunes results (dyno & track) compare to comparable cars in your specific geographical locations?..
A dyno is just that, a dyno, it does not tell you how the car truly performs in real world conditions. My tuning starts with road tuning, then dyno, then back to the road again.

No N54 with stock turbos has ever trapped more than 120 mph at our local track except two cars. That was a 07 E92 with latest Jb4 + backend flash + alpina flash, it was gutted to the teeth, FBO, meth, and driver weighed less than 130 lbs, less than 1/4 of a tank of fuel, and........I beat his trap speed. 1.8 60" vs 2.3 60"

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I recently dyno'd my self tuned cobb map at the recent EAS dyno day and made very close numbers to similar setups with Jb4 with backend flash.. Would you be willing to provide a Godzilla map for comparison at their next dyno day? It would be interesting to see how much more power you guys have found with your tuning approach..
If our maps were locked sure, but they are unlocked, so we have no way to self assure things wont get abused. Our only semi protection is $

Btw I got your PM, I wrote a response, a very long one...lol, and the forum server went down last night and I lost it . I will respond though to your question.
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I have a DCT 'is' and was wondering if you were able to tune out some of the initial throttle delay. Only thing I miss about not having a 6MT.

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Yes, infact sometimes its soo sensative people have asked us to turn it down

All my 335is tuning was molded to an MT feel as I grew up on MT cars.
Thanks dx. And good news. Hate coming to complete stop then hit the throttle and have to count to two before anything happens. I run the Cobb stage 1 OTS now. Picked up the ER FMIC and CP over Black Friday sales. Now have to wait for Spring to put on car. I'll be in touch before too long. Cheers and Happy New Year.
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From my experience more wheel spin off the launch almost always resulted in a higher trap speed at the track. 121 is impressive for still having cats though

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I trapped 121-122 mph in the 1/4 miles with a 2.2-2.3 60' no meth, no race gas, fullweight, half tank of fuel, heavy driver, and Im not cattless. The trap speeds were consistent back to back, not a one time miracle.

This is how I test for reliable and consistent power when I make a maps



A dyno is just that, a dyno, it does not tell you how the car truly performs in real world conditions. My tuning starts with road tuning, then dyno, then back to the road again.

No N54 with stock turbos has ever trapped more than 120 mph at our local track except two cars. That was a 07 E92 with latest Jb4 + backend flash + alpina flash, it was gutted to the teeth, FBO, meth, and driver weighed less than 130 lbs, less than 1/4 of a tank of fuel, and........I beat his trap speed. 1.8 60" vs 2.3 60"



If our maps were locked sure, but they are unlocked, so we have no way to self assure things wont get abused. Our only semi protection is $

Btw I got your PM, I wrote a response, a very long one...lol, and the forum server went down last night and I lost it . I will respond though to your question.
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From my experience more wheel spin off the launch almost always resulted in a higher trap speed at the track. 121 is impressive for still having cats though
Aha I have heard this subject before however it doesn't apply . I came off slow to avoid wheel hop.
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Thanks dx. And good news. Hate coming to complete stop then hit the throttle and have to count to two before anything happens. I run the Cobb stage 1 OTS now. Picked up the ER FMIC and CP over Black Friday sales. Now have to wait for Spring to put on car. I'll be in touch before too long. Cheers and Happy New Year.
I think that's just a bug with the gear selection in the DCT.

I have had a similar problem a few times but only in comfort mode where it's too lazy with the downshifts. I'll roll up to a junction under braking and the DCT will release the clutch plates but will hold onto 2nd gear unless I come to a complete stop so if I decide to come back off the brakes and accelerate again from a very low speed it takes a while to sort itself out.
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Sorry for the threadjack OP. I was wondering how a tune would work in different weather conditions compared to when the original logs were done. So let's say I do my pulls today at 40 degrees and send them to Wedge for creation of my custom map. How would the tune work in the summer at 90 degrees? Would it be better to wait and do the pulls (logs) when it is warmer out?

Edit: How about humidity?
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Sorry for the threadjack OP. I was wondering how a tune would work in different weather conditions compared to when the original logs were done. So let's say I do my pulls today at 40 degrees and send them to Wedge for creation of my custom map. How would the tune work in the summer at 90 degrees? Would it be better to wait and do the pulls (logs) when it is warmer out?

Edit: How about humidity?
I think you're fine. Low temps means greater air density so you will be at your fastest currently.

When summer comes the car will feel slower but I don't think you will need to touch the tune as the DME will adjust load depending on the weather.
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Sorry for the threadjack OP. I was wondering how a tune would work in different weather conditions compared to when the original logs were done. So let's say I do my pulls today at 40 degrees and send them to Wedge for creation of my custom map. How would the tune work in the summer at 90 degrees? Would it be better to wait and do the pulls (logs) when it is warmer out?

Edit: How about humidity?
I would think it's better to tune in the coldest conditions and then set DME to adjust for warmer weather.. But let's hear what what he OP has to say..
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I would think it's better to tune in the coldest conditions and then set DME to adjust for warmer weather.. But let's hear what what he OP has to say..
Once you have tuned in the coldest conditions you will not have to re-adjust load or anything when summer comes as actual load will be lowered automatically by the DME

If you are tuned in summer weather more likely there will have to be one more adjustment during the colder season, and then after that no more adjustments will be needed.

Again, we give lifetime support as long as you own the car we tuned , there is no support expiration or limited support
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I would think it's better to tune in the coldest conditions and then set DME to adjust for warmer weather.. But let's hear what what he OP has to say..
Once you have tuned in the coldest conditions you will not have to re-adjust load or anything when summer comes as actual load will be lowered automatically by the DME

If you are tuned in summer weather more likely there will have to be one more adjustment during the colder season, and then after that no more adjustments will be needed.

Again, we give lifetime support as long as you own the car we tuned , there is no support expiration or limited support
Thanks for confirming. Considering I need to do close to 100 for the logging, I just want to do it once!
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Thanks for confirming. Considering I need to do close to 100 for the logging, I just want to do it once!
When you have been tuned initially, it will only take one run of two gear pulls to properly make the adjustment for a single update and your one for all seasons
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Will wedge create a flash for jb4 users now? I contacted him for a flash a few months ago and was informed I had to be running a Cobb smh. I'm fbo including meth and inlets now ( custom flash ), but would like to try a wedge flash before dyno runs.
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Will wedge create a flash for jb4 users now? I contacted him for a flash a few months ago and was informed I had to be running a Cobb smh. I'm fbo including meth and inlets now ( custom flash ), but would like to try a wedge flash before dyno runs.
No... I can't support the flash with JB4. Although the backend flash has improved over the past year, I still think that flash tuning is the best solution for smooth driveable power which is more consistent. If you are looking for a comparison, you can always flash the OTS map in MHD. I think everyone will enjoy the new version 5 maps.
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No... I can't support the flash with JB4. Although the backend flash has improved over the past year, I still think that flash tuning is the best solution for smooth driveable power which is more consistent. If you are looking for a comparison, you can always flash the OTS map in MHD. I think everyone will enjoy the new version 5 maps.
Any eta for version 5?
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