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      09-14-2015, 07:51 AM   #111
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450 to 480... but not over 500.
I think I confused myself with torque numbers on the stock turbos. Either way, 490ish rwhp and 580ish rwtq on stock turbos (although a ticking time bomb) is pretty impressive!

Can't wait to see what the RR650's do but for a little over $2k, the RR550's seem to be a great option!
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Any plan to up the boost when AD FMIC installed? or if meth is reinstalled? Or do you think anything past 30psi is its "breaking point"
30 is crazy high and to be honest they are still happy turbos at 25 to 26 psi... But if you really want to run 30 psi wait for the RR650/750 turbos to hit. I keep getting preview pictures from Wayne at HEXON and they are going to be amazing.
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I think I confused myself with torque numbers on the stock turbos. Either way, 490ish rwhp and 580ish rwtq on stock turbos (although a ticking time bomb) is pretty impressive!

Can't wait to see what the RR650's do but for a little over $2k, the RR550's seem to be a great option!
Easy to do, and I agree. The new RR turbos from HEXON will be impressive as well.
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this is exactly what I need. It looks like I will need new turbos fairly soon for my DD. I have FBO with no meth and we do not have e85 in CT only 93 pump gas.

Wedge do you work with anyone in the NE or can you recommend anyone that would be able to help me tune\do this right?

I would love to get as close as i can to 500 WHP keeping in mind this is my DD :-)

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this is exactly what I need. It looks like I will need new turbos fairly soon for my DD. I have FBO with no meth and we do not have e85 in CT only 93 pump gas.

Wedge do you work with anyone in the NE or can you recommend anyone that would be able to help me tune\do this right?

I would love to get as close as i can to 500 WHP keeping in mind this is my DD :-)

Thanks!!
I'm with yah. I know there are quite a few of us on this forum who would like to hit 500whp without Meth and E85 (which is very scarce in Conn). There are a bunch of us who are waiting to see a Dyno on aftermarket turbos with no Meth or E85. Is anybody out there who is willing to throw the Hexons up on a dyno without Meth and/or E85 and see?
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this is exactly what I need. It looks like I will need new turbos fairly soon for my DD. I have FBO with no meth and we do not have e85 in CT only 93 pump gas.

Wedge do you work with anyone in the NE or can you recommend anyone that would be able to help me tune\do this right?

I would love to get as close as i can to 500 WHP keeping in mind this is my DD :-)

Thanks!!
Wedge Performance (Ken) offers remote tuning. They send you a base map, you load it in and upload the logs to datazap.me. They'll review your logs and make changes as necessary to get the most out of your turbos/motor and send you the revised map for you to load, run and log. It takes time to dial your car in to its fullest potential but it does take time but the upside is it does not matter where in the world you are, as long as you have internet access they can tune your car.
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I'm with yah. I know there are quite a few of us on this forum who would like to hit 500whp without Meth and E85 (which is very scarce in Conn). There are a bunch of us who are waiting to see a Dyno on aftermarket turbos with no Meth or E85. Is anybody out there who is willing to throw the Hexons up on a dyno without Meth and/or E85 and see?
I plan on having the 550's installed sometime in the next month or so. I live in CT also, but I work in greenwich a few days a week so I'm always getting e85. I wouldn't mind dyno'ing on 93 and no meth to get some results for everyone.
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Wedge Performance (Ken) offers remote tuning. They send you a base map, you load it in and upload the logs to datazap.me. They'll review your logs and make changes as necessary to get the most out of your turbos/motor and send you the revised map for you to load, run and log. It takes time to dial your car in to its fullest potential but it does take time but the upside is it does not matter where in the world you are, as long as you have internet access they can tune your car.
wow that is good to know. What do they use COBB?
never used datazap will have to learn it all.. lol

I currently have GIAC so I had never had to do any tuning...

I guess when the time comes I will get the turbos installed and do the tuning later :-)
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wow that is good to know. What do they use COBB?
never used datazap will have to learn it all.. lol

I currently have GIAC so I had never had to do any tuning...

I guess when the time comes I will get the turbos installed and do the tuning later :-)
Wedge Performance can tune Cobb, no problem. I'm currently running a Cobb AP v3 with a custom tune from them but if you are new to the flash tuning scene, I suggest going with the MHD Android flasher versus the Cobb since I think the future of flash tuning is going to be MHD with new tables being define each day plus the MHD is much cheaper too.
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this is exactly what I need. It looks like I will need new turbos fairly soon for my DD. I have FBO with no meth and we do not have e85 in CT only 93 pump gas.

Wedge do you work with anyone in the NE or can you recommend anyone that would be able to help me tune\do this right?

I would love to get as close as i can to 500 WHP keeping in mind this is my DD :-)

Thanks!!
I'm with yah. I know there are quite a few of us on this forum who would like to hit 500whp without Meth and E85 (which is very scarce in Conn). There are a bunch of us who are waiting to see a Dyno on aftermarket turbos with no Meth or E85. Is anybody out there who is willing to throw the Hexons up on a dyno without Meth and/or E85 and see?
+2. It would be great to get data on just 93 for those of us who don't have access to or just don't want to add e85 or meth.
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But if you really want to run 30 psi wait for the RR650/750 turbos to hit.
Just curious, in their past life did they use to make turbos for the 3si platform? lol Their turbo nomenclature sounds similar to their DR-650 and DR-750 turbos. Looking forward to seeing what these new turbos will do.
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I plan on having the 550's installed sometime in the next month or so. I live in CT also, but I work in greenwich a few days a week so I'm always getting e85. I wouldn't mind dyno'ing on 93 and no meth to get some results for everyone.
That would be great. I'm sure the others without access to E85 would appreciate that. Keep us posted. Although E85 and Meth has quite the cult following with this platform there are many others who may not want to mess with meth or have no quick access to ethanol.
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If you pull off a Dyno on Aftermarket Turbos on straight pump and no Meth or E85 you would be probabaly be the first to do so on the N54 . Good luck.
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If you pull off a Dyno on Aftermarket Turbos on straight pump and no Meth or E85 you would be probabaly be the first to do so on the N54 . Good luck.
And this sucks for those of us who don't want to or don't have access for E85 and meth. You'd think someone out there in all these years by now would've done a pull on 93 octane, but shockingly and frustratingly enough - no one has. It's kind of ridiculous imo, with such a massive platform.
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And this sucks for those of us who don't want to or don't have access for E85 and meth. You'd think someone out there in all these years by now would've done a pull on 93 octane, but shockingly and frustratingly enough - no one has. It's kind of ridiculous imo, with such a massive platform.
Agree, by the time you get turbos, most people already have meth so why not use it.

I'm sure the hybrids will do well with 93 as we have stock turbo cars making over 400 whp on 93.
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And this sucks for those of us who don't want to or don't have access for E85 and meth. You'd think someone out there in all these years by now would've done a pull on 93 octane, but shockingly and frustratingly enough - no one has. It's kind of ridiculous imo, with such a massive platform.
Agree, by the time you get turbos, most people already have meth so why not use it.

I'm sure the hybrids will do well with 93 as we have stock turbo cars making over 400 whp on 93.
I've seen the ceiling more at 370-380rwhp on 93 without meth or e85 on almost all the synod, except for the 1M you tuned.
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I've seen the ceiling more at 370-380rwhp on 93 without meth or e85 on almost all the synod, except for the 1M you tuned.
True, fuel is everything. Even E10 pump makes a big difference. Feel sorry for people who don't have Ethanol fuel.
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Hello Wedge, I need new turbos and I am on FBO right now (pushing about 370WHP) but no meth. I would like to get upgraded turbos and a tune from you but it is kind of hard to do so without any real numbers. This is my DD and I really do not want to push too much boost thus not using meth is benefical for me. I dirve 20k miles a year and I cannot afford getting new turbos every year. If I were able to hit 450 WHP with upgraded turbos and no meth, that is an option I would explore but as of now I do not know if that is possible.
I understand that meth and e85 is ideal to get the most out of these turbos, however not everyone wants to push turbos to higher limits.
The more choices the better it is for you and the costumer.

I believe most fuel sold in CT is E10 now, so that would work too.

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Hello Wedge, I need new turbos and I am on FBO right now (pushing about 370WHP) but no meth. I would like to get upgraded turbos and a tune from you but it is kind of hard to do so without any real numbers. This is my DD and I really do not want to push too much boost thus not using meth is benefical for me. I dirve 20k miles a year and I cannot afford getting new turbos every year. If I were able to hit 450 WHP with upgraded turbos and no meth, that is an option I would explore but as of now I do not know if that is possible.
I understand that meth and e85 is ideal to get the most out of these turbos, however not everyone wants to push turbos to higher limits.
The more choices the better it is for you and the costumer.

I believe most fuel sold in CT is E10 now, so that would work too.

Thanks!
Having a HP target is good, but bottom line is fuel and mods will dictate how much power your car will make. I can tell you your car could make 600 whp with the selected turbos, but it doesn't mean you will make that much power.

We will do everything to achieve your goals while keeping things driveable, safe, and consistent.
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Wedge would you be willing to be the guinea pig and run a straight 93 octane Dyno on those RR550 Hexons?
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I've seen the ceiling more at 370-380rwhp on 93 without meth or e85 on almost all the synod, except for the 1M you tuned.
What was the exception for tuning the 1M?
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Wedge would you be willing to be the guinea pig and run a straight 93 octane Dyno on those RR550 Hexons?
If he doesn't, I will do it in a couple of weeks when I get mine installed. All of you CT guys can come to the dyno also if you want lol
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