Going for 400rwhp....

Slow335i · 06-14-2008, 07:36 PM

What a pain in the ass. Good luck dude - this is one reason why I am selling my car for something that offers easier and more reliable tunability and a limit much higher than 380-400 HP. These cars are just too damn moody.

e90AW335i · 06-14-2008, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Slow335i

What a pain in the ass. Good luck dude - this is one reason why I am selling my car for something that offers easier and more reliable tunability and a limit much higher than 380-400 HP. These cars are just too damn moody.

Well they aren't too many choices for that.....Best of luck.....

Kev · 06-14-2008, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by e90AW335i

Well they aren't too many choices for that.....Best of luck.....

Best of luck with your quest!

e90AW335i · 06-14-2008, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kev

Best of luck with your quest!

Thanks Kev, hopefully I will get close to it next week....

cwn23 · 06-14-2008, 08:21 PM

Wow! Power loss!! ?????

scalbert · 06-14-2008, 08:49 PM

Here are two question. Were there any pending codes? Also, have all readiness test completed?

I suspect timing is being pulled due to the DME not detecting soemthing right with the cats. It could pull timing to help heat the cats and this will kill power.

M3to335 · 06-14-2008, 09:52 PM

ak, the "r" word! Thats been my favorite subject lately

nj335i · 06-14-2008, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by nj323ci

ah, i see... thanks and i'll keep u up to date on what happens with my car

Where and when are you going to get a dyno?

e90AW335i · 06-15-2008, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by scalbert

Here are two question. Were there any pending codes? Also, have all readiness test completed?

I suspect timing is being pulled due to the DME not detecting soemthing right with the cats. It could pull timing to help heat the cats and this will kill power.

Sounds like someone else I know (shiv) ....

I will be getting it scanned tomorrow to see about readiness.....

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Originally Posted by M3to335

ak, the "r" word! Thats been my favorite subject lately

Obviously my favorite now too....

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Originally Posted by nj335i

Where and when are you going to get a dyno?

No offense but please PM him rather than posting it in this thread. Thanks....

Calgary Agent · 06-15-2008, 01:03 AM

Kyle - maybe it was the temps there today? You said you expected mid-90's? Was it significantly warmer than the last dyno(s) you ran?

Stupid question, but what kind of mileage did you allow for DP adaptation?

Lane · 06-15-2008, 07:18 AM

Can't V3 trick the DME to get the O2 readiness? I remember there was a problem with another forum member to get the readiness and it could explain why you adding DPs to V3 would lose power.

M3to335 · 06-15-2008, 08:12 AM

Im no emissions guru but I dont think that would have anything to do with loosing power.

Panoz · 06-15-2008, 09:14 AM

Thats not good...V3 supposed to handle appropriately the DPs.

cwn23 · 06-15-2008, 09:30 AM

V3 might be a bust!!!!!!!! Again

scottp999 · 06-15-2008, 09:33 AM

How were the boost readings. Was it hitting the PSI targets?

e90AW335i · 06-15-2008, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Calgary Agent

Kyle - maybe it was the temps there today? You said you expected mid-90's? Was it significantly warmer than the last dyno(s) you ran?

Stupid question, but what kind of mileage did you allow for DP adaptation?

The temps were actually 4 degrees cooler today than last time. I also setup the fans to be IDEAL this time.....

As far as adaptation goes I forced it by running valet map run 3 hard runs than switching to high boost for 6-7 full rpms runs.

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Originally Posted by Lane

Can't V3 trick the DME to get the O2 readiness? I remember there was a problem with another forum member to get the readiness and it could explain why you adding DPs to V3 would lose power.

Shiv didn't incorporate the o2 simms and readiness into V3 because of legal issues so everyone is learning together how to achieve readiness.

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Originally Posted by Panoz

Thats not good...V3 supposed to handle appropriately the DPs.

See above statement.

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Originally Posted by cwn23

V3 might be a bust!!!!!!!! Again

I honestly think it is to early to tell. If making 380trq/365hp on a car with dual cones and V3 only is a bust than I guess our standards are to high. It is obvious that it has something to do with the DPs, I will work on it this week with shiv and I am sure we will get this resolved.

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Originally Posted by scottp999

How were the boost readings. Was it hitting the PSI targets?

Boost readings were on target. It ran 13ish down low to 15.5 in the middle and tapered to 10psi in the top end (I increased my user torque settings in the top end per discussion with Shiv)

Lane · 06-17-2008, 07:33 PM

They don't have O2 sims in V3? Where are the instructions regarding incorporating some transistors to become O2 sims and getting the readiness?

What is the issue in losing power in your case?

e90AW335i · 06-17-2008, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lane

They don't have O2 sims in V3? Where are the instructions regarding incorporating some transistors to become O2 sims and getting the readiness?

What is the issue in losing power in your case?

I am not sure why I am losing power. I am going to drive it all week and see if I can get o2 readiness, if I can I will go an redyno...

OpenFlash · 06-17-2008, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by e90AW335i

I am not sure why I am losing power. I am going to drive it all week and see if I can get o2 readiness, if I can I will go an redyno...

Do you not have o2 readiness yet? Should only take a day of driving to get it. if you don't have it yet, I don't think you will get it. If that's the case, i'll show you how to make an o2 simm using 2 resisters. I have yet to see such a set-up not get readiness.

Shiv

e90AW335i · 06-17-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Do you not have o2 readiness yet? Should only take a day of driving to get it. if you don't have it yet, I don't think you will get it. If that's the case, i'll show you how to make an o2 simm using 2 resisters. I have yet to see such a set-up got get readiness.

Shiv

I honestly never checked. I have been swamped with stuff (as you know), so I haven't had a chance to go and take care of it.

I will go tomorrow on my way home from work and have autozone scan it....

M3to335 · 06-17-2008, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Do you not have o2 readiness yet? Should only take a day of driving to get it. if you don't have it yet, I don't think you will get it. If that's the case, i'll show you how to make an o2 simm using 2 resisters. I have yet to see such a set-up not get readiness.

Shiv

Please let me know as well

Mr. 5 · 06-17-2008, 09:41 PM

I just saw this man and I feel your pain!
I'm going back this Friday as well to really see what happened with my setup.
Although people have their opinions, I will come down to what caused my car to drop power as well.

You would think that if you put in 100 plus octane that you would be able to bump the crap out of the torque settings, but i found this to not be the case when I tried this at the strip.

My custom tuned settings were set at 94% at 91 Octane.
I bumped my settings to 100% after having a tank of 105 octane (MS 109).
Once I saw that I was boosting at 20-22 psi, I put everything back to 94%.

Good luck man, but I truly feel that the 400 whp cannot be done by just doing this or that. It's going to take some sort of inside tuning (like the shark edit) to get you where you want to be. The question is...after it's all said and done, do you have a reliable car that makes 400 whp? With the same exact turbos that we are running? I wouldn't bet on it.

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Lane Several N54 cars, V1,3, V2.0.2, and V3.1 12 Rep 778 Posts Drives: N54s Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: UK DE GR SW iTrader: (0)	Can't V3 trick the DME to get the O2 readiness? I remember there was a problem with another forum member to get the readiness and it could explain why you adding DPs to V3 would lose power.
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M3to335 Whats that smell? 153 Rep 1,790 Posts Drives: Bimmers, duh Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NC iTrader: (6)	Im no emissions guru but I dont think that would have anything to do with loosing power.
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Lane Several N54 cars, V1,3, V2.0.2, and V3.1 12 Rep 778 Posts Drives: N54s Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: UK DE GR SW iTrader: (0)	They don't have O2 sims in V3? Where are the instructions regarding incorporating some transistors to become O2 sims and getting the readiness? What is the issue in losing power in your case?
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Mr. 5 Modder Raider 844 Rep 8,633 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Surf City, HB iTrader: (31) Garage List 2007 e90 335i [8.00]	I just saw this man and I feel your pain! I'm going back this Friday as well to really see what happened with my setup. Although people have their opinions, I will come down to what caused my car to drop power as well. You would think that if you put in 100 plus octane that you would be able to bump the crap out of the torque settings, but i found this to not be the case when I tried this at the strip. My custom tuned settings were set at 94% at 91 Octane. I bumped my settings to 100% after having a tank of 105 octane (MS 109). Once I saw that I was boosting at 20-22 psi, I put everything back to 94%. Good luck man, but I truly feel that the 400 whp cannot be done by just doing this or that. It's going to take some sort of inside tuning (like the shark edit) to get you where you want to be. The question is...after it's all said and done, do you have a reliable car that makes 400 whp? With the same exact turbos that we are running? I wouldn't bet on it. __________________ e36 M3 Coupe, e36 325i Sedan e90 335i--SOLD Best 60-130-------------9.15 Seconds------------------WWW.MR5RACING.COM
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