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01-09-2020, 04:49 PM | #111 |
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That's how I am taking it. I think I will adjust my approach opening the meeting by stating this is what I want to do with my tech wiring:
1. Reliable WiFi everywhere (I use wired backhaul for my mesh) 2. Wired security system with smartphone access to arm/disarm 3. Do not need any smart home stuff beyond security system access That's all I need. Then I will sit and listen. Shouldn't take long to figure out if he wants to help or sell. |
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01-12-2020, 10:40 PM | #114 |
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I hear what you're saying. And I'm certainly not disagreeing with you anywhere, I just want to add a thought without going off topic.
The speeds and capabilities of the ethernet wiring has become irrelevant. It's current capabilities 'today' are so far beyond what is actually used to the point the various categories have become a distinction without difference. In other words, an HDTV won't work any better or worse on one or the other since it's just not making any meaningful demands on the cable. After all, an HDTV stream is like 1-5M tops or 0.1% of gigabit capabilities. A 4K stream is maybe 25M tops or 2.5%. And because it's a cable, it's not sharing traffic among many devices since you can only plug one thing in, so there will never be additional load. However, what ethernet does do, is route internal traffic/congestion far better than wifi. You have exponentially more bandwidth and overhead on ethernet than you do with wifi, and this impacts everything on the network. Most important you have basically no latency (why the gamers and traders don't use wifi). So with that in mind, in a modern home, the perspective going in is ethernet is just used strictly as a way to get networked devices off the wifi. Wifi becomes a crutch for devices you simply can't connect. Ethernet is not something that gets congested any more, however wireless gets congested still. So if you have a TV, wire it. They don't move. If you have a nightstand speaker, wire it, because it doesn't move (hide the jack behind the bed so you are flexible). Same for printers (especially printers, they choke wifi the worst) and any other device you can think of that just sits in its place etc. (desktop PC comes to mind or gaming system). The more devices you can eliminate from the wireless the cleaner the service to the remaining devices that have no option but to be on wifi. As you mention, more devices are going wifi so any approach towards making the wifi as clean as possible is the best way to 'future proof' the house. Seth |
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01-12-2020, 11:23 PM | #115 |
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I'm of the mindset that if you're wiring new why waste the opportunity to ensure you don't have to go back into the walls at a later date to update the cabling? Again, the cost differential between Cat5e and Cat6 (even Cat6a) shouldn't be that big a difference over the labor involved in putting in the cabling in the first place. We all know 10Gig is here and a set standard. We all know what is required to run 10Gig over twisted pair copper is a minimum of Cat6.
And it's interesting how there's so much bias against wireless. Again, wireless implemented correctly should not impact most usage in the home network. Unified wireless systems are now easily accessible by the lay person. And with the implementation of features such as MU-MIMO, these help mitigate wireless network congestion. |
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01-13-2020, 10:56 AM | #116 |
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Well, unfortunately, what you've said in kidding is pretty par for the course. Many home users think having the strongest wireless signal from their router is the best solution. I see this all the time over at a tech forum I'm a part of.
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I totally agree that if Cat 6e is a small percentage more than Cat 6, spend the money. Maybe the rule of thumb should be "run the best ethernet available at a reasonable price." |
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In addition, it took quite a few years for 1 Gig to become the main stream standard. 1 Gig is still plenty good for most home users. By the time 10Gig achieves the same main stream status as 1 Gig, it'll be many many years. But that's my own opinion. So if I feel that 10 Gig will be some time out as something which is main stream, why bother installing Cat6 to Cat6a? Because it sets you up in the position where you have a choice and the move to 10 Gig would just be an equipment upgrade. Equipment upgrades are far easier to do than physical wiring upgrades. |
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02-04-2020, 06:27 PM | #122 |
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If anyone is still following, I kept it simple. I put 2x Cat6 and 1xRG6 in all rooms. I also added a 2" conduit running from the basement panel to the attic. That's it. They priced out an alarm system, but it was stupid expensive compared to simplisafe, so I passed on that.
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